• Re: Defining Overpopulation

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to David P on Tue Feb 22 10:38:46 2022
    On 2/22/2022 10:24 AM, David P wrote:
    Defining Overpopulation
    by Fons Jena, February 22, 2022

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    Thus overpopulation can be defined as a condition where at least one
    of the three following conditions are met:

    When a population exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment
    (the ‘sustainability’ criterion).
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    https://overpopulation-project.com/defining-overpopulation

    How about:
    Even Calvin understands overpopulation.

    view:
    https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2015/03/01

    and for the winter Olympics:

    https://www.gocomics.com/comics/lists/1643200/calvin-and-hobbes-sledding-comics-make-winter-bright

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  • From David P@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 22 11:38:15 2022
    a425couple wrote:
    David P wrote:
    Defining Overpopulation
    by Fons Jena, February 22, 2022
    Thus overpopulation can be defined as a condition where at least one
    of the three following conditions are met:

    When a population exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment
    (the ‘sustainability’ criterion).
    ----------

    https://overpopulation-project.com/defining-overpopulation

    How about:
    https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2015/03/01 https://www.gocomics.com/comics/lists/1643200/calvin-and-hobbes-sledding-comics-make-winter-bright
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    "The caribou feeds the wolf, but it is the wolf that
    keeps the caribou strong" -- Keewatin Inuit Proverb
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    Most healthy ungulates are fast enough to outrun a pack of wolves.
    In fact, wolves are only successful in taking down large prey about
    20% of the time they make an attempt, and wolves are often injured,
    and sometimes killed, by the prey they hunt. The pack will usually
    give up the chase if they start to fall behind. But if the chosen
    prey is injured, weakened, or old, the wolves may have the advantage.
    By taking the weakest animals, wolves increase the overall health
    of the remaining herd. --Defenders of Wildlife

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  • From Dean Markley@21:1/5 to David P on Tue Feb 22 11:49:51 2022
    On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:24:40 PM UTC-5, David P wrote:
    Defining Overpopulation
    by Fons Jena, February 22, 2022

    Before you start to talk about something you must first define it.
    That logic must certainly be applied to the topic of overpopulation,
    because much of the fierce resistance against recognizing
    overpopulation comes from the fact that people use a wrong or
    limited definition of the concept.

    Most definitions we can find are partial definitions, as they limit themselves mainly to the criterion of carrying capacity (including
    ecosystem services) and rarely mention two other criteria, biodiversity
    and quality of life, as separate and equally important criteria.
    Only a definition referring to these three fundamental criteria does
    justice to the concept of overpopulation. A definition that does not
    refer to the criterion of biodiversity is too anthropocentric, while
    one that only or mainly refers to the criterion of carrying capacity
    for humans leaves out the many effects of overpopulation on quality
    of life (both material and immaterial aspects).

    Additionally, this three-faceted definition counters the common misunderstanding that overpopulation is solely a problem of shortages
    of food or other resources, or that it can be solved by technological
    means alone. The negative effects of overpopulation on the quality of
    life (peace, democracy, liberty) and biodiversity can at best be
    limited by technology. A hundred windmills or vegetarians will always
    leave more room for nature and humanity than a thousand of them.

    Thus overpopulation can be defined as a condition where at least one
    of the three following conditions are met:

    When a population exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment
    (the ‘sustainability’ criterion).
    When other species are not given enough space to survive (the
    ‘room for nature’ criterion, in which other species and their
    habitats are taken into account).
    When there is insufficient room and resources to guarantee every
    individual a high quality of life (the quality of life criterion).

    By consistently referring to these three conditions we can expand
    the debate and strengthen the case for tackling overpopulation and
    promoting smaller populations.

    https://overpopulation-project.com/defining-overpopulation

    Why are you posting this in a Naval group?

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