• Can Putin really AFFORD a war in Ukraine, or anywhere else?

    From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 18 12:08:48 2022
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    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and indirect—of a new war in Ukraine? Easy—he’s been preparing for years. Russia’s
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to grow, thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 million bpd of refined petroleum products, according to Cowen & Co., amounting to
    about 10% of the global oil trade. With Brent crude hitting an eight-year
    high of $88.88 this morning, that amounts to more than $600 million a day in petro-cash.

    On top of that is 23 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas exports
    (roughly 2 bcfd of which now transits through Ukraine)—worth another $400 million a day at today’s elevated European prices.

    Importantly, it’s no longer apt to refer to Russia’s fossil fuel income as “petro-dollars,” as Putin has been working hard to “de-dollarize” the Russian economy. Back in 2013 Russia received dollars for 95% of its exports
    to Brazil, India, South Africa and China. Today, according to the
    Congressional Research Service, after a decade of de-dollarization just 10%
    of that trade is in greenbacks.

    And Putin has created new payment processing systems, as a replacement for
    the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT
    (from which Biden has threatened to cut Russia off); in 2015 after U.S. sanctions Moscow launched the Mir payment platform (now even connected to
    Apple Pay).

    Putin has increasingly replaced trade in dollars with gold. From a record
    low of $2 billion worth of gold in 1995, Russia has piled up a mountain of it—now worth $130 billion, or 20% of total reserves. That’s equivalent to about 72 million 1 oz. gold coins, or 4.5 million pounds. Only the U.S., Germany and Italy hold more gold.

    Though Russia mines a lot of gold, platinum and palladium itself, some of
    the pile may be coming from friends like Venezuela, which in 2019 reportedly loaded 20 tons of it onto a Russian Boeing 777, part of a liquidation of
    some 300 tons from Caracas coffers.

    (Putin is not the only goldbug—central banks have added 4,500 tons of gold reserves over the past decade.)

    According to Johns Hopkins University economist professor Steve Hanke, Russia’s central bank has displayed high competence in managing the rouble, and it shows: Since 2016 it has held mostly steady at .013 per dollar,
    though dropping about 8% in recent months during the Ukraine military
    buildup.

    Clearly, Putin has been putting funds to work investing in his military. Spending ramped up to a peak of $90 billion per year in 2013, ahead of his Crimea invasion, and totaled $60 billion in 2020, according to World Bank
    data.

    This pales in comparison to U.S. military spending of $780 billion and China’s
    $250 billion in 2020—though Russia does spend more as a percentage of GDP,
    at 4%. Putin could likely ramp that spending more if he wanted to—according to BNP Paribas data, Russia’s public debt is 18% of GDP, while total
    external debt is less than 30% of GDP. Ukraine’s debt load is 80% of GDP, while the U.S.’ is more than 100%.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2022/01/31/how-can-putin-afford-war-in-ukraine-his-130-billion-gold-horde-helps/?sh=1d7148cd41f5

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Inge Mueller on Fri Feb 18 12:58:29 2022
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    "Inge Mueller" wrote in message news:nnqv0hdgtk5kcqsvd70bp497c98fb8ujsc@4ax.com...

    More to the point, can Putin afford NOT to start a war with the Ukraine, given that all his demands of the West have been nixed?

    To back down now would be too much of a loss of face.
    He now has no choice BUT to go to war...

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  • From Inge Mueller@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Feb 18 18:53:22 2022
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    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:08:48 -0600, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and >indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years. Russias >central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to grow, >thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 million >bpd of refined petroleum products, according to Cowen & Co., amounting to >about 10% of the global oil trade. With Brent crude hitting an eight-year >high of $88.88 this morning, that amounts to more than $600 million a day in >petro-cash.

    On top of that is 23 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas exports >(roughly 2 bcfd of which now transits through Ukraine)worth another $400 >million a day at todays elevated European prices.

    Importantly, its no longer apt to refer to Russias fossil fuel income as >petro-dollars, as Putin has been working hard to de-dollarize the
    Russian economy. Back in 2013 Russia received dollars for 95% of its exports >to Brazil, India, South Africa and China. Today, according to the >Congressional Research Service, after a decade of de-dollarization just 10% >of that trade is in greenbacks.

    And Putin has created new payment processing systems, as a replacement for >the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT >(from which Biden has threatened to cut Russia off); in 2015 after U.S. >sanctions Moscow launched the Mir payment platform (now even connected to >Apple Pay).

    Putin has increasingly replaced trade in dollars with gold. From a record
    low of $2 billion worth of gold in 1995, Russia has piled up a mountain of >itnow worth $130 billion, or 20% of total reserves. Thats equivalent to >about 72 million 1 oz. gold coins, or 4.5 million pounds. Only the U.S., >Germany and Italy hold more gold.

    Though Russia mines a lot of gold, platinum and palladium itself, some of
    the pile may be coming from friends like Venezuela, which in 2019 reportedly >loaded 20 tons of it onto a Russian Boeing 777, part of a liquidation of
    some 300 tons from Caracas coffers.

    (Putin is not the only goldbugcentral banks have added 4,500 tons of gold >reserves over the past decade.)

    According to Johns Hopkins University economist professor Steve Hanke, >Russias central bank has displayed high competence in managing the rouble, >and it shows: Since 2016 it has held mostly steady at .013 per dollar,
    though dropping about 8% in recent months during the Ukraine military >buildup.

    Clearly, Putin has been putting funds to work investing in his military. >Spending ramped up to a peak of $90 billion per year in 2013, ahead of his >Crimea invasion, and totaled $60 billion in 2020, according to World Bank >data.

    This pales in comparison to U.S. military spending of $780 billion and Chinas >$250 billion in 2020though Russia does spend more as a percentage of GDP,
    at 4%. Putin could likely ramp that spending more if he wanted toaccording >to BNP Paribas data, Russias public debt is 18% of GDP, while total
    external debt is less than 30% of GDP. Ukraines debt load is 80% of GDP, >while the U.S. is more than 100%.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2022/01/31/how-can-putin-afford-war-in-ukraine-his-130-billion-gold-horde-helps/?sh=1d7148cd41f5

    More to the point, can Putin afford NOT to start a war with the
    Ukraine, given that all his demands of the West have been nixed?

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  • From Inge Mueller@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Feb 18 19:43:26 2022
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    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:58:29 -0600, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    "Inge Mueller" wrote in message >news:nnqv0hdgtk5kcqsvd70bp497c98fb8ujsc@4ax.com...

    More to the point, can Putin afford NOT to start a war with the Ukraine,
    given that all his demands of the West have been nixed?

    To back down now would be too much of a loss of face.
    He now has no choice BUT to go to war...

    Exactly so.

    SELL NOW!

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Feb 18 20:53:58 2022
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    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:08:48 -0600, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and >indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years. Russias >central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to grow, >thanks to surging oil prices.

    he's dug hisself a big hole

    2/3rd billion its pocket change to real economies

    its got no serious production beyond bombs

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 million >bpd of refined petroleum products, according to Cowen & Co., amounting to >about 10% of the global oil trade. With Brent crude hitting an eight-year >high of $88.88 this morning, that amounts to more than $600 million a day in >petro-cash.

    On top of that is 23 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas exports >(roughly 2 bcfd of which now transits through Ukraine)worth another $400 >million a day at todays elevated European prices.

    Importantly, its no longer apt to refer to Russias fossil fuel income as >petro-dollars, as Putin has been working hard to de-dollarize the
    Russian economy. Back in 2013 Russia received dollars for 95% of its exports >to Brazil, India, South Africa and China. Today, according to the >Congressional Research Service, after a decade of de-dollarization just 10% >of that trade is in greenbacks.

    And Putin has created new payment processing systems, as a replacement for >the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT >(from which Biden has threatened to cut Russia off); in 2015 after U.S. >sanctions Moscow launched the Mir payment platform (now even connected to >Apple Pay).

    Putin has increasingly replaced trade in dollars with gold. From a record
    low of $2 billion worth of gold in 1995, Russia has piled up a mountain of >itnow worth $130 billion, or 20% of total reserves. Thats equivalent to >about 72 million 1 oz. gold coins, or 4.5 million pounds. Only the U.S., >Germany and Italy hold more gold.

    Though Russia mines a lot of gold, platinum and palladium itself, some of
    the pile may be coming from friends like Venezuela, which in 2019 reportedly >loaded 20 tons of it onto a Russian Boeing 777, part of a liquidation of
    some 300 tons from Caracas coffers.

    (Putin is not the only goldbugcentral banks have added 4,500 tons of gold >reserves over the past decade.)

    According to Johns Hopkins University economist professor Steve Hanke, >Russias central bank has displayed high competence in managing the rouble, >and it shows: Since 2016 it has held mostly steady at .013 per dollar,
    though dropping about 8% in recent months during the Ukraine military >buildup.

    Clearly, Putin has been putting funds to work investing in his military. >Spending ramped up to a peak of $90 billion per year in 2013, ahead of his >Crimea invasion, and totaled $60 billion in 2020, according to World Bank >data.

    This pales in comparison to U.S. military spending of $780 billion and Chinas >$250 billion in 2020though Russia does spend more as a percentage of GDP,
    at 4%. Putin could likely ramp that spending more if he wanted toaccording >to BNP Paribas data, Russias public debt is 18% of GDP, while total
    external debt is less than 30% of GDP. Ukraines debt load is 80% of GDP, >while the U.S. is more than 100%.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2022/01/31/how-can-putin-afford-war-in-ukraine-his-130-billion-gold-horde-helps/?sh=1d7148cd41f5

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 18 23:38:09 2022
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    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Feb 18 16:52:26 2022
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    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and indirect—of a new war in Ukraine? Easy—he’s been preparing for years. Russia’s
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to grow, thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5
    million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

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  • From 25.BX943@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 18 20:58:28 2022
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    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and >> indirect—of a new war in Ukraine? Easy—he’s been preparing for years. >> Russia’s
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is
    equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to
    grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5
    million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 11:26:50 2022
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    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and >>> indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years.
    Russias
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is
    equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to
    grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5
    million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

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  • From 25.BX943@21:1/5 to abelard on Sat Feb 19 10:08:56 2022
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    On 2/19/22 5:26 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and
    indirect—of a new war in Ukraine? Easy—he’s been preparing for years.
    Russia’s
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >>>> equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to
    grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5
    million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

    China is steadily "invading" most everywhere, esp in
    Africa and S.America ......

    But Putin may not care about the small stuff right
    now, but instead be interested in sanctions-relief
    first and foremost.

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 16:18:03 2022
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    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:08:56 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/19/22 5:26 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and >>>>> indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years. >>>>> Russias
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >>>>> equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to >>>>> grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 >>>>> million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

    China is steadily "invading" most everywhere, esp in
    Africa and S.America ......

    But Putin may not care about the small stuff right
    now, but instead be interested in sanctions-relief
    first and foremost.

    russia is a paper tiger...pootin is desperate to ride the tiger

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  • From Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 16:31:15 2022
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    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 11:26:50 +0100, abe lard <abelard3@abelard.org>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and >>>> indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years.
    Russias
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >>>> equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to
    grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5
    million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

    Luckily, you can spot one of the bastards half a mile away!

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to abelard on Sat Feb 19 12:20:46 2022
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    "abelard" wrote in message
    news:ldh11hdvc3ql80m9cb85p7tvkbegu9vvsl@4ax.com...

    china is steadily invading russia

    They'd make a grab for Kamchatka if they could get away with it...

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 12:20:34 2022
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    "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" wrote in message news:ip621h17gcu5ko49ho8ob2l5dkt0hvi6oj@4ax.com...

    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 11:26:50 +0100, abe lard <abelard3@abelard.org>
    wrote:

    china is steadily invading russia

    Luckily, you can spot one of the bastards half a mile away!

    Moral: Don't trust anyone with slanted eyes...

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to Byker on Sat Feb 19 21:26:08 2022
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    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 12:20:46 -0600, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    "abelard" wrote in message >news:ldh11hdvc3ql80m9cb85p7tvkbegu9vvsl@4ax.com...

    china is steadily invading russia

    They'd make a grab for Kamchatka if they could get away with it...

    such is socialism/dictatorship

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  • From 25.BX943@21:1/5 to abelard on Sun Feb 20 00:01:32 2022
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    On 2/19/22 10:18 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:08:56 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/19/22 5:26 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costs—both direct and
    indirect—of a new war in Ukraine? Easy—he’s been preparing for years.
    Russia’s
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >>>>>> equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to >>>>>> grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 >>>>>> million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

    China is steadily "invading" most everywhere, esp in
    Africa and S.America ......

    But Putin may not care about the small stuff right
    now, but instead be interested in sanctions-relief
    first and foremost.

    russia is a paper tiger...pootin is desperate to ride the tiger

    And those silly Japs were all little midgets with
    round glasses - no problem ........

    Russia is NOT a "paper tiger". They've dragged down
    their whole economy for 20 years just to build up
    their military capability. Russians are also the
    ultimate hard-asses - kill a million and the next
    million will fill the gap. Read up on the Chernobyl
    response ... and especially their WW-2 efforts.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 20 12:51:02 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    25.BX943, <news:3tadnb5tVoGzVoz_nZ2dnUU7-fHNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
    On 2/19/22 10:18 AM, abelard wrote:

    russia is a paper tiger...pootin is desperate to ride the tiger

    And those silly Japs were all little midgets with
    round glasses - no problem ........

    Russia is NOT a "paper tiger". They've dragged down
    their whole economy for 20 years just to build up
    their military capability. Russians are also the
    ultimate hard-asses - kill a million and the next
    million will fill the gap. Read up on the Chernobyl
    response ... and especially their WW-2 efforts.

    As soon as a couple of the American aircraft carriers have been sunk and few ground control centers have been hit, it will cause a total disarray and
    panic within America. Police will completely disappear from the streets, and fellow Americans with guns will enthusiastically start killing and looting
    each other. And exploding nukes nearby will complement the scenic scenery.

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  • From abelard@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 20 11:39:32 2022
    XPost: alt.economics, talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 00:01:32 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/19/22 10:18 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:08:56 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/19/22 5:26 AM, abelard wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:58:28 -0500, "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net>
    wrote:

    On 2/18/22 7:52 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/18/2022 10:08 AM, Byker wrote:
    How Can Putin Afford War In Ukraine?
    His $130 Billion Gold Horde Helps

    Christopher Helman
    31 Jan 22

    How can Russian President Vladimir Putin afford the costsboth direct and
    indirectof a new war in Ukraine? Easyhes been preparing for years. >>>>>>> Russias
    central bank reserves now stand at $640 billion, a record. That pile is >>>>>>> equivalent to 17 months of Russian export revenues, and continues to >>>>>>> grow,
    thanks to surging oil prices.

    Russia exports some 5 million barrels per day of crude oil, plus 2.5 >>>>>>> million

    All he has done is hold military maneuvers,,, and talk.
    And by this, he has increased his countries income
    greatly.

    He does not need to go to war, he has already won.

    He has also forged a good mutual-support treaty
    with Xi ... "sanctions" would thus have diminished
    impact. Likely part of the deal is that Russia will
    support China when it finally makes its move on
    Taiwan.

    china is steadily invading russia

    China is steadily "invading" most everywhere, esp in
    Africa and S.America ......

    But Putin may not care about the small stuff right
    now, but instead be interested in sanctions-relief
    first and foremost.

    russia is a paper tiger...pootin is desperate to ride the tiger

    And those silly Japs were all little midgets with
    round glasses - no problem ........

    Russia is NOT a "paper tiger". They've dragged down
    their whole economy for 20 years just to build up
    their military capability. Russians are also the
    ultimate hard-asses - kill a million and the next
    million will fill the gap. Read up on the Chernobyl
    response ... and especially their WW-2 efforts.

    i assume your code number means you serve
    pootin's bot farm

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Feb 20 08:46:04 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sut381$fah$1@os.motzarella.org...

    As soon as a couple of the American aircraft carriers have been sunk

    At least we have carriers to sink. Where are all yours?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKGq-BGLcAQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB89zVVyAAw

    Besides, ours don't have to be accompanied by ocean-going tugs...

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 20 21:22:16 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Byker the Shithead, <news:coednSGvb9qxyY__nZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sut381$fah$1@os.motzarella.org...

    As soon as a couple of the American aircraft carriers have been sunk

    At least we have carriers to sink. Where are all yours?

    The h-sonic missiles suit your carriers well.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Wed Feb 23 12:56:51 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <suu0uk$o8t$3@os.motzarella.org>,
    "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote:

    Byker the Shithead, <news:coednSGvb9qxyY__nZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sut381$fah$1@os.motzarella.org...

    As soon as a couple of the American aircraft carriers have been sunk

    At least we have carriers to sink. Where are all yours?

    The h-sonic missiles suit your carriers well.

    Where do you plan to live after the MAD?

    --
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 22:19:37 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <suu0uk$o8t$3@os.motzarella.org>,
    "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote:

    Byker the Shithead, <news:coednSGvb9qxyY__nZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sut381$fah$1@os.motzarella.org...

    As soon as a couple of the American aircraft carriers have been sunk

    At least we have carriers to sink. Where are all yours?

    The h-sonic missiles suit your carriers well.

    Where do you plan to live after the MAD?

    No evidence the hypersonic missiles are more than a fantasy from an inferior Slavic brain. Russians can't even make decent jetfighters anymore. Puting just makes shit up for his gullible spineless slavic slaves to gobble up.

    Oleg better not live in the west because we could start shooting his kind any day now.

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