• frugal cataract operations?

    From dumbstruck@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 20 23:11:52 2016
    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?
    2) standard medicare?
    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?
    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand which encourages medical tourism?
    5) ?

    tks

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to dumbstruck on Wed Dec 21 09:00:17 2016
    On 12/20/2016 11:11 PM, dumbstruck wrote:
    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?

    What does it cost?

    2) standard medicare?

    You pay 20% of the negotiated price. What is that?

    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?

    No idea. We bought the Blue Shield Plan F PPO supplement and it was
    free. The astigmatism lenses (essential, in my case) were $1K each,
    though -- the fact that glasses have NEVER fully corrected it
    notwithstanding.

    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand which encourages medical tourism?

    Tijuana has real doctors and real hospitals. We go there for dentistry,
    which is roughly one quarter of the US cost.

    All of the above will, of course, require more research.


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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to KenK on Thu Dec 22 10:13:20 2016
    On 12/22/2016 09:27 AM, KenK wrote:
    dumbstruck <dumbstruc@gmail.com> wrote in news:40f3b17f-af37-45d5-b057-fee72f1c70d7@googlegroups.com:

    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed
    under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?
    2) standard medicare?
    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?
    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand
    which encourages medical tourism? 5) ?

    tks

    I've had two done under Medicare - free. However, trifocal glasses were
    quite expensive.

    Don't bother. I got 'distance' lenses and use the cheap 99-cent-store
    reading glasses in a variety of strengths depending on what I want to
    use them for. My mom hated the trifocals.


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    Cheers, Bev
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    before executing them."
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  • From KenK@21:1/5 to dumbstruck on Thu Dec 22 17:27:22 2016
    dumbstruck <dumbstruc@gmail.com> wrote in news:40f3b17f-af37-45d5-b057-fee72f1c70d7@googlegroups.com:

    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed
    under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?
    2) standard medicare?
    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?
    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand
    which encourages medical tourism? 5) ?

    tks

    I've had two done under Medicare - free. However, trifocal glasses were
    quite expensive.


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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Thu Dec 22 21:47:30 2016
    On 12/22/2016 10:13 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/22/2016 09:27 AM, KenK wrote:
    dumbstruck <dumbstruc@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:40f3b17f-af37-45d5-b057-fee72f1c70d7@googlegroups.com:

    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed
    under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?
    2) standard medicare?
    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?
    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand
    which encourages medical tourism? 5) ?

    tks

    I've had two done under Medicare - free. However, trifocal glasses were
    quite expensive.

    Don't bother. I got 'distance' lenses and use the cheap 99-cent-store reading glasses in a variety of strengths depending on what I want to
    use them for. My mom hated the trifocals.

    I also got normal bifocals -- vision is still a bit off after the
    operation(s).

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    Cheers, Bev
    "History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
    -- Nigel Molesworth

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  • From dumbstruck@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sat Dec 24 15:13:02 2016
    On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 7:47:31 PM UTC-10, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/22/2016 10:13 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/22/2016 09:27 AM, KenK wrote:
    dumbstruck wrote:

    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts removed
    under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance?
    2) standard medicare?
    3) that medicare alternative using managed care?
    4) some 3rd world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand >>> which encourages medical tourism? 5) ?

    tks

    I've had two done under Medicare - free. However, trifocal glasses were
    quite expensive.

    Don't bother. I got 'distance' lenses and use the cheap 99-cent-store reading glasses in a variety of strengths depending on what I want to
    use them for. My mom hated the trifocals.

    I also got normal bifocals -- vision is still a bit off after the operation(s).

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
    -- Nigel Molesworth

    Thanks, all. Bev, do I recall correctly that they fixed your astigmatism in the cataract operation? So then you are just left with difficulty adapting to distance changes and maybe some change in night driving ability?

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to dumbstruck on Sat Dec 24 21:42:26 2016
    On 12/24/2016 03:13 PM, dumbstruck wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 7:47:31 PM UTC-10, The Real Bev
    wrote:
    On 12/22/2016 10:13 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/22/2016 09:27 AM, KenK wrote:
    dumbstruck wrote:

    Is it generally cheaper for an American to have cataracts
    removed under:

    1) econo bronze level med insurance? 2) standard medicare? 3)
    that medicare alternative using managed care? 4) some 3rd
    world hospital with good medical reputation, like Thailand
    which encourages medical tourism? 5) ?

    tks

    I've had two done under Medicare - free. However, trifocal
    glasses were quite expensive.

    Don't bother. I got 'distance' lenses and use the cheap
    99-cent-store reading glasses in a variety of strengths depending
    on what I want to use them for. My mom hated the trifocals.

    I also got normal bifocals -- vision is still a bit off after the
    operation(s).

    -- Cheers, Bev "History started badly and hav been geting steadily
    worse." -- Nigel Molesworth

    Thanks, all. Bev, do I recall correctly that they fixed your
    astigmatism in the cataract operation? So then you are just left with difficulty adapting to distance changes and maybe some change in
    night driving ability?

    Yes, they fixed the astigmatism -- that was worse than the slight
    yellowing of the lenses. $1K for each lens -- medicare doesn't regard
    toric lenses as essential -- theoretically astigmatism can be corrected
    with glasses, although mine never was. I still have a bit left, and am
    a bit nearsighted in one eye. It's not an exact science, unfortunately.
    Night driving has improved, actually -- the astigmatism was a real
    bitch. On balance, I'm really happy. It could be better, but what
    couldn't?

    BUT I have a weird thing in one eye -- a shaft of light that shoots out
    at a 45-degree angle clockwise from vertical that's the exact width of a
    bright light and whose length is dependent on the brightness. There's a threshhold, and it's not so bright that it swamps out anything behind
    it, but it's a nuisance. My ophthalmologist doesn't know what it is.
    I'll ask my retinologist when I visit him next month. I have a touch of
    dry MD and a weird thing in one retina, so I visit him every 6 months or so.

    My friend who had the REALLY fancy multi-focal lenses done a month or so
    ago had the same thing in both eyes for a week or so, but it went away.

    My distance and middle vision is acceptable, but I need +1.5D glasses
    for the computer and +2.5D glasses for reading. I also have monovision contacts, with the left one +2.5 for reading and the right one for
    distance. Better vision than my bifocal glasses, and the brain gets
    mostly used to the different focus in each eye.

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