• Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson

    From brett.bazant@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sunniesdre on Mon Dec 3 14:42:00 2018
    On Sunday, 14 September 1997 01:00:00 UTC-6, Sunniesdre wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson and had any results -- or do you know of anyone?

    Thanks.

    I bought it way back in the day and have had mixed results. I have been very gradually improving ever since. One thing which is hard is that the topic is very abstract and some of the ideas are metaphorical. "Strengthening" your muscles is not always
    the way to view it. "Reprogramming" your visual system is more like it. My myopia was completely cleared by the vision freedom system within a few months, I have wrestled with astigmatism and my progress is very slow. I think I was doing it wrong. I
    would recommend this system as well as studying the many bates method resources, they really do work.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to brett.bazant@gmail.com on Mon Dec 3 20:04:12 2018
    On 12/03/2018 02:42 PM, brett.bazant@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 September 1997 01:00:00 UTC-6, Sunniesdre wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson and
    had any results -- or do you know of anyone?

    Thanks.

    I bought it way back in the day and have had mixed results. I have
    been very gradually improving ever since. One thing which is hard is
    that the topic is very abstract and some of the ideas are
    metaphorical. "Strengthening" your muscles is not always the way to
    view it. "Reprogramming" your visual system is more like it. My
    myopia was completely cleared by the vision freedom system within a
    few months, I have wrestled with astigmatism and my progress is very
    slow. I think I was doing it wrong. I would recommend this system
    as well as studying the many bates method resources, they really do
    work.

    Are you telling us that you can cure the improper curvature of your
    cornea with this method? Guffaw.


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    Cheers, Bev
    "I don't care who your father is! Drop that cross
    one more time and you're out of the parade!"

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  • From brett.bazant@gmail.com@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Wed Dec 5 07:57:31 2018
    On Monday, 3 December 2018 21:04:14 UTC-7, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/03/2018 02:42 PM, brett.bazant@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 September 1997 01:00:00 UTC-6, Sunniesdre wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson and
    had any results -- or do you know of anyone?

    Thanks.

    I bought it way back in the day and have had mixed results. I have
    been very gradually improving ever since. One thing which is hard is
    that the topic is very abstract and some of the ideas are
    metaphorical. "Strengthening" your muscles is not always the way to
    view it. "Reprogramming" your visual system is more like it. My
    myopia was completely cleared by the vision freedom system within a
    few months, I have wrestled with astigmatism and my progress is very
    slow. I think I was doing it wrong. I would recommend this system
    as well as studying the many bates method resources, they really do
    work.

    Are you telling us that you can cure the improper curvature of your
    cornea with this method? Guffaw.


    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I don't care who your father is! Drop that cross
    one more time and you're out of the parade!"

    definitely. the visual system is capable of change, not just for the worse, and just because present medical theory does not understand this does not mean it is untrue. It is true that the pathological changes of the eye usually change only in one
    directly. this is largely because our interference in the feedback loop of the system forces deleterious adaptation. I see what Dr. Bates was saying when he said 'man cannot be convinced by reason of an opinion he did not use reason to acquire"

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sat Feb 1 10:05:29 2020
    On 12/3/2018 8:04 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/03/2018 02:42 PM, brett.bazant@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 September 1997 01:00:00 UTC-6, Sunniesdre  wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson and
    had any results -- or do you know of anyone?

    Thanks.

    I bought it way back in the day and have had mixed results.  I have
    been very gradually improving ever since.  One thing which is hard is
    that the topic is very abstract and some of the ideas are
    metaphorical.  "Strengthening" your muscles is not always the way to
    view it.  "Reprogramming" your visual system is more like it.  My
    myopia was completely cleared by the vision freedom system within a
    few months, I have wrestled with astigmatism and my progress is very
    slow.  I think I was doing it wrong.  I would recommend this system
    as well as studying the many bates method resources, they really do
    work.

    Are you telling us that you can cure the improper curvature of your
    cornea with this method?  Guffaw.

    I got tired of glasses, especially for skiing back in my 30's. I went to
    a doctor that did biofeedback training and taught vision exercises. In a
    matter of months, I could see fine without my glasses, and did not wear
    any for decades. Several years ago I did start occasionally using
    reading glasses for close work, and finally got prescription reading and computer glasses this last year because of developing astigmatism
    causing double vision. I am now 72 YO.

    When I was younger, doing the near-far focus exercise could quickly move
    my near focus from maybe 18" to 6" in 5 minutes of exercise.

    Exercise sure worked for my vision.

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  • From steve rekedal@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Jan 8 11:15:00 2021
    On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 12:05:46 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
    On 12/3/2018 8:04 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 12/03/2018 02:42 PM, brett....@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 September 1997 01:00:00 UTC-6, Sunniesdre wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Vision Freedom program by Brian Severson and
    had any results -- or do you know of anyone?

    Thanks.

    I bought it way back in the day and have had mixed results. I have
    been very gradually improving ever since. One thing which is hard is
    that the topic is very abstract and some of the ideas are
    metaphorical. "Strengthening" your muscles is not always the way to
    view it. "Reprogramming" your visual system is more like it. My
    myopia was completely cleared by the vision freedom system within a
    few months, I have wrestled with astigmatism and my progress is very
    slow. I think I was doing it wrong. I would recommend this system
    as well as studying the many bates method resources, they really do
    work.

    Are you telling us that you can cure the improper curvature of your
    cornea with this method? Guffaw.
    I got tired of glasses, especially for skiing back in my 30's. I went to
    a doctor that did biofeedback training and taught vision exercises. In a matter of months, I could see fine without my glasses, and did not wear
    any for decades. Several years ago I did start occasionally using
    reading glasses for close work, and finally got prescription reading and computer glasses this last year because of developing astigmatism
    causing double vision. I am now 72 YO.

    When I was younger, doing the near-far focus exercise could quickly move
    my near focus from maybe 18" to 6" in 5 minutes of exercise.

    Exercise sure worked for my vision.
    At the age of 48 I was a corporate pilot and wearing trifocal glasses. I used the vision freedom system to correct my vision to 20/20. I'm now 68 and do not wear glasses. My vision has deteriorated slightly in dim light. My secret was to open my eyes
    as wide as possible any time my vision was not perfect and within seconds my vision cleared, sometimes I would have to blink and then hold eyes wide open. It became a habit I never had to think about to do. When I started, my vision was 180/200 left eye
    and 200/200 right eye. At the beginning of my journey I could barely read the E at the top of the chart. At about 20 hours into the eye exercises I was trying to read as far down the eye chart as I could when I felt this pulling sensation in my right
    eye, the chart cleared to the 20/10 line. I felt a sensation like a needle going through my eye and it hurt so bad I had to close my eyes. That was the motivation I needed to know it works. It took a couple years to strengthen the eyes to not wear
    glasses at all. Wearing glasses will slow the journey. In dim light I now wear reading glasses. The system works but it takes a lot of motivation. How motivated are you?

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 8 13:10:37 2021
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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Jan 8 21:44:07 2021
    On 01/08/2021 01:10 PM, Bob F wrote:

    Impressive. My issue now is astigmatism. I can still read books or
    computer screens, but my eyes definitely get tired faster, and keep
    going blurry enough to narrow the vision field, so I have been using
    glasses for those activities. I have not needed them for distant vision, although for stargazing I definitely see a double image.

    It just gets worse the older you get. I hoped that the expensive toric cataract lenses would take care of that as well as the extreme
    farsigntedness, but it wasn't perfect and the macular defect in the
    sharper eye is REALLY annoying!

    Curiously enough, in spite of the fact that I've had a certain amount of apparently-uncorrectable astigmatism which I only noticed when I was 36,
    my eyes have never been tired and I've never had headaches. Just double/smeared images. And the best part is that the smears are
    different in each eye, making a circle into an X.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have
    never experienced any prob

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