[continued from previous message]
illustrates why alternative institutions, like Canterbury, are on the
rise, while trust in conventional universities is plummeting.
Attacks on Canterbury
Mainstream academia indoctrinates its students into believing that they
are dissident if they do not cling to established thought.
Most Ph.D.'s, like yourself, are procreated when conventional dogma
encounters an impressionable mind. Then as you mature, you begin to
believe that the outside world is evil and inferior if they do not
forfeit their own believes or subjugate their intellectual autonomy to
the will of the majority, (that is to say the "establishment" or
mainstream research community in this case).
The great majority of universities do not seem to enhance the mental
freedom of their students at all, some of whom are psychologically
damaged by the experience. It may be a fair assumption that universities
who claim that chronic Lyme disease does not exist, (like yours), may
have a lot in common with mind-control cults. You may laugh, but the
practices of such cults are strangely familiar to anyone looking at
academia from a safe distance. The four fundamental cult traits of
conventional universities are: 1. Behavior Control, 2. Information
Control, 3.Thought Control, and 4. Emotional Control. Is this why the testimonials on the BX Website are repulsive?
Academia is broken, has become a meritocracy, and offers little
meaningful hope for Lyme or most other serious pathologies, and you
claim we should be worried that Dr. Smith went to Canterbury instead of
Leiden? ASTONISHING!
[ 01-15-2016, 12:25 AM: Message edited by: Jen@canterbury ]
Posts: 4 | From Seychelles | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Jen@canterbury
Junior Member
Member # 47334
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 12:09 AM Profile for Jen@canterbury Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Here is the web verify link. You are required to obtain diploma number
from the student.(and yes he did graduate from Canterbury).
http://canterburyuniversity.uk/site/grades/web_verify
Indecently, after reviewing the degree requirements at University of
Leiden, I understand why Dr. Smith elected to pursue an alternate
course.
Our Bio-Science program (PhD.) requires 92 credits + a 4 year degree.
We consider Dr. Smith among our most respected alumnus.
[ 01-15-2016, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: Jen@canterbury ]
Posts: 4 | From Seychelles | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Jen@canterbury
Junior Member
Member # 47334
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 12:20 AM Profile for Jen@canterbury Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Canterbury University Graduates crush conventional competition
Study
Posts: 4 | From Seychelles | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Jen@canterbury
Junior Member
Member # 47334
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 08:32 AM Profile for Jen@canterbury Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Thank you for the correction.
As I understand it, xbyuon is a disinformation agent for the
pharmaceutical industry.
He is a first year PhD student at Leiden. His position is funded by CEL
(Centre of Education and Learning), a collaboration between the
universities of Leiden, Delft and Rotterdam. He is also a very good
speller.
The type of attacks your posting are FALSE, and are a violation of the
forums policies, but they do help to illustrate my point about the
nature of academia. Hopefully, people are smart enough to use
discernment when reading your posts.
Posts: 4 | From Seychelles | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Delta Legal
Member
Member # 47316
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 08:58 AM Profile for Delta Legal Author's Homepage Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With
Quote
Thank you Jen. Keep in mind that xbyuon is accessing archived data. This
allows him to reference misspellings or changes on the website that were previously there. That's whey your not seeing them now. Its a
sophisticated technique used by propaganda agents.
I can see why CEL is funding him. He's very good at what he does. Its a
shame to see that type of talent wasted on a disinformation job.
We estimate that he spends 2-3 hours daily just on Delta and BX, so I
guess that is a complement:)
Posts: 12 | From United States | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Delta Legal
Member
Member # 47316
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 09:32 AM Profile for Delta Legal Author's Homepage Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With
Quote
FYI: Delta has paid for legal reviews in the past.
Legal opinion letters, certifying Delta's standing, are available upon
request. These certifications are written by licensed attorneys, not
Delta.
Posts: 12 | From United States | Registered: Jan 2016 | IP: Logged |
Report this post to a Moderator
Catgirl
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 31149
Icon 1 posted 01-15-2016 10:55 AM Profile for Catgirl Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Wow, this thread is an eye opener for sure!
--------------------
--Keep an open mind about everything. Also, remember to visit ACTIVISM
(we can change things together).
Posts: 4927 | From earth | Registered: Mar 2011 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Big Doug
Junior Member
Member # 47621
Icon 1 posted 03-07-2016 12:06 PM Profile for Big Doug Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
I've been on the protocol for about 173 days now. Basic report is: It
Does Work.
And I have seen that there is some organization our of Germany? (not
sure) that says BX Protocol is a scam.
Let me tell you that when I signed up I had some concerns because of the
lies that are circulating on the internet about the organization. Delta provided me with a legal opinion letter written by a large law firm. I
actually talked to that attorney.
Now looking back, I am almost embarrassed that I ever questioned them. I
went to their clinic in the Caribbean and I can tell you that these guys
are as legit as it gets. They are well developed, have their own labs,
IT staff, Medical staff,etc.
And people complaining about the price....Get Real. The program is
medically supervised for a year and then they put you on another year.
So its basically a two year program. So you have to be joking me if you
say that is expensive. I spent like 85,000 on some clinic in Florida
(was there for 3 months) and got jack in return.
So if you are saying Bx protocol is a scam because they charge 17K, then
you should take a reality check. I have no idea how they charge that
small of an amount and stay in business.
But the bottom line is that when I started the protocol I has in really
bad shape. I was using a walker, couldn't work, think, etc.
Today, I am working, golfing (actually shot an 85 last week at pebble:),
and returning to the things I love.
As i understand it, Bx now requires a doctor referral, but dont loose
hope. Just get a doc to go through their training program. It will be
good for them and good for you. They saved my assss!
Oh, i found a cool link that one of their patients started. It has some responses regarding them being a scam. Might Help.
http://www.bxprotocolforum.com/post/specific-attacks-against-bx-7907554?pid=1290708310
Good Luck Guys!
PS. you can most likely get the job done on their home program. They
didnt really try and sell me on the clinic, but i would highly recommend
that you go. Its a paradise!!!!!
Posts: 2 | From Colorado | Registered: Mar 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Big Doug
Junior Member
Member # 47621
Icon 1 posted 03-07-2016 12:11 PM Profile for Big Doug Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Sorry Guys. I meant Leiden University. Maybe this will help
We now have information that several Ph.D. candidates from Leiden
University, in the Netherlands, are performing dissertation research on suppression of dissent techniques. The BX protocol has honorably been
selected as the primary target for this research.
Over the past year, Leiden University, funded by CEL (Centre of
Education and Learning), a collaboration between the universities of
Leiden, Delft and Rotterdam, has supported attacks against the BX
Protocol, its founders, affiliates, members, and associates through the following means:
1. Deleting, modifying, misquoting, and fabricating information about
the BX Protocol, its founders, affiliates, members, and associates.
2. Obstructing research with 3 separate universities.
3. Dissemination of rumors.
4. Posing as patients in forums, social media, or other internet venues.
5. Filing formal complaints with government agencies. (Making complaints
is one of their key tactics McDermott et al., 2014).
Delta Institute, working with INTERPOL and the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), has launched an investigation in order to combat
acts of cyber terrorism committed by the universtity funded students,
for alleged crimes violating international standards for online
activity.
Delta will utilize a variety of investigative tools needed to fight this variety of cyber crime, that Big Pharma uses as an ongoing tactic to
fight against and suppress emerging health benefits within the
integrative sector.
Posts: 2 | From Colorado | Registered: Mar 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Marty 719
Junior Member
Member # 48027
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 10:43 AM Profile for Marty 719 Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
My wife went through this protocol. It was the only thing that has ever
worked for her for Lyme. She is 100% recovered. I was a skeptic from he
start mainly because of the internet rumors. More on that in a moment...
I recently attended a lecture given by Dr. Smith. The lecture hall was
packed with Doctors, biochemists, etc. And I can tell you that this guy
is a genius. there is no doubt about it. I'm going to provide you here
with a transcript of that lecture with regard to the attacks of Big
Pharma so you guys can see whats happening and why sites like wiki are
making up false allegations. not sure if it will let me post it so I
will break it into a couple of sections.
Transcript part 1:
In 2013, a group funded at the highest levels of the medical industrial complex, began a well-orchestrated attack against alternative health at
large with emphasis on several key players in that sector. At the time
we did not know who it was and why they were doing it.
In 2016 we retained the services of a counter intelligence service, that
has uncovered an elaborate disinformation conspiracy against
non-conventional treatment alternatives in general, and a specific
dissident suppression campaign against the BX Protocol and several of
its affiliates. The suppression campaign is funded by two of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. We know who they are and have in
our possession the evidentiary support needed to perfect our claims. Interestingly enough, these are the same companies that have been given
the sole monopoly for the manufacture and sale of drugs. Im speaking of
a international Drug cartel, the so called “big pharma establishment.
So Why the BX Protocol? ( keep in mind that we are just one of hundreds)
But we may be the lone wolf with regard to the following:
1. We are developing and manufacturing our own highly scientific
technologies outside of the mainstream.
2. We are starting our own university to train doctors. We currently
have Doctor affiliates in 18 countries
3. We are building a medical city in the Caribbean.
4. Our technologies work.
5. We will not pursue drug classification, peer review, or adhere to
the double blind standard.
Again, We know who the people and organization are. We have
documentation supporting this knowledge through our sources. We can tell
you that this effort involves attacks against many people within the integrative health field. The attacks are both tactical and strategic in nature.
We can prove that the attacks where precipitated by two large
pharmaceutical companies, we have the email records, the flow of cash supporting the campaign, We know which senators are involved. We know
the specific universities involved, and the New York based media firm
that functions as the kingpin in the operation; we have the social media trails, computer files, the whole nine yards. Naturally, I will not name
names, but our enemies can be assured that we have the names and the documentation, all the way down to the emails, bank records, and VPN
server sites in Luxenborg, supporting the facts. And we are presently
holding that in trust with our attorneys, in multiple law firms as a
measure of security. And I’m sure they know of my background in counter intelligence. I think this is the only thing that has kept me alive
while my colleagues are dropping like flys. Our strategy ensures
survival in perpetuity. They can kill me, activate our counter measures,
and see our cause increase, not decline.
Posts: 4 | From Colorado | Registered: May 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Marty 719
Junior Member
Member # 48027
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 10:44 AM Profile for Marty 719 Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Lecture Transcript part 2:
We have confirmed that the attacks are specifically a suppression of
dissent campaign that began against the anti-vaccination movement and
has spread out from there. The media firm owns or contracts with a vast
network of forums, websites, blogs, physician and university groups that represent a formidable network of media resources.
I’m not going to bore you with the unnecessary details, a legal response
and point by point rebuttal is available on our site. Certified legal
reviews from our U.S. based law firm are available upon request.
But there are some things that you need to know and be aware of.
The organization has supported cyber attacks against the BX Protocol,
its researchers, founders, staff, affiliates, members, and associates.
This is primarily an internet based operation. But there are ground
assets as well.
Systems used:
They use agency grade cryptographic technologies: anytime you see
someone using fully integrated end-to-end security using 256 bit SSL
encryption or PGP encryption systems, with multiple VPN networks, you
know they are keen on hiding the data that they are passing through the internet. There are different levels of encryption and you can usually
tell you your dealing with by the system that they employ. Is it
Point-to-Point Tunnelling, two layer tunneling, or is it something like
our guys are using: a full blown multi port, military grade open vpn
system. That’s when you know that your dealing with someone with some
serious cash behind their operation.
So what is their overall game plan? Lets take a look at some of the
tactics
1. Deleting, modifying, misquoting, and fabricating information about
the BX Protocol, its founders, researchers, staff, affiliates, members,
and associates. And I mean fabrication.
As just one of hundreds of examples, I am wanted by the FBI. From a
misdemeanor trespassing charge on a target practice gin range, or a USDA protest misdemeanor, They will harvest mug shot photos (which is
required under pleas and abeyance, there is no arrest involved, these
are ticketed violations, and they will doctor that photo in a FBI frame,
with standard FBI format, and plaster that on seemingly legitimate
sites. That’s just one example, but the other false allegations are
similar.
2. Obstructing research with 3 separate universities.
So imagine someone actually processing enough political influence to
force universities to drop research projects. Keep in mind that we are
paying for the research. This is a contracted fee for service scenario.
And when you see the outcomes of some of our research that survived, you
will begin to see why they have such an interest in stopping it.
3. Attempted Raids.
Again, I’m not going o disclose the parties involved in the attempted
raids. And this is going back several years when we had labs in the
U.S., But I can tell you that we received specific intelligence that
indicated that a raid and technology seizer would occur. We received
that notice around 5Pm. According to our protocol, that building was
empty within 5 hours. The technology secured and relocated outside of
the former republic known as the United States of America.
3. Propagation of false rumors. This is a standard protocol in dissident suppression. You can research that on your own.
4. Posing as patients in forums, blogs, social media, or other internet
venues. This is one of the reasons why we never relied on an internet information strategy. Out affiliates are handpicked, trained, and
empowered with truth. And the truth will set you free to discern the falsehoods. But strategically we have to have a chance to tell the truth
before some believing soul finds the false information. We are proactive
in this regard. And we have a few tricks up our won sleeve.
5. Filing formal complaints with government agencies. (Making frivolous complaints is one of their key tactics McDermott et al., 2014). Of
course the agencies would surely come after us if we were jurisdictional
low handing fruit, which we are not.
6. Identifying any persons associated with the BX on the internet and
engaging with them. This is where you come into the picture. It is our conclusion that this group that is attacking alternative health,
attacking those outspoken opponents that challenge the official
narrative, is collecting and analyzing metadata on anyone digitally
connected to that opponent.
Posts: 4 | From Colorado | Registered: May 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Marty 719
Junior Member
Member # 48027
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 10:46 AM Profile for Marty 719 Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Lecture Transcript Part 3:
Again this is not based on broad assumptions. This is based on specific experience with this group hacking and tapping. They will set up a user
profile on you based upon your particular orientation to alternative
health. The vast majority of people they don’t care about. But if your
are an affiliate of ours and you are not using encrypted email and
taking some basic precautions, then you can expect to get your email
hacked, and you can expect to have everyone in your email list receive disparaging information about the BX. Make sure that you avoid
downloading any unknown applications. Avoid engaging with trolls or
bashers in forums.
They will hack the forum and just pull your IP directly out of the admin
side of the forum. I would at least use something like Top Guard or some
other anonymous email service, along with a VPN connection to the
internet. That’s not hard to set up. But I recommend if you’re going to communicate with us, then you employ some basic strategies. Our
affiliates, on our system are provided with encrypted back office communications. And we recommend that you use that system for security.
Posts: 4 | From Colorado | Registered: May 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Marty 719
Junior Member
Member # 48027
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 10:50 AM Profile for Marty 719 Send
New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
FYI: I have learned that Rationale Wiki is a disinformation site run by
the pharmaceutical industry. Is there any truth to this?
Posts: 4 | From Colorado | Registered: May 2016 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
project
Member
Member # 46200
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 05:37 PM Profile for project Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Can someone please explain to me why "Big Pharma" would hire consultants
to smear some alternative Lyme treatment center that probably sees
dozens of patients and makes hundreds of thousands possibly 1 million/
year?
It makes no sense. Big Pharma doesn't even have a competing Lyme
treatment. Their antibiotics are only prescribed for Lyme by a small
network of LLMDs operating outside the mainstream medical system.
Once someone knows they have Lyme they generally will be considering
various Lyme treatments all of which are somewhat alternative. The only
people that stand to gain by smearing BX are other Lyme treatment
centers and product companies. Maybe the "Big Byron White" is really the
evil mastermind here.
Skeptics like those on Rational Wiki abound and are motivated by their
own sense of superiority through "logic" and a need to propagate their
narrow worldview. No need to posit a shadowy conspiracy behind them,
unless you're BX trying to shore up your own flagging brand.
Posts: 99 | From CO | Registered: Jul 2015 | IP: Logged | Report this
post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 05:54 PM Profile for Keebler Edit/Delete
Post Reply With Quote
-
project,
I can't address particulars for the Bx protocol nor for "Rationale Wiki"
however, the pharmaceutical industry is trying very, very hard to block
all alternative treatments, herbs, etc. It's a huge campaign of theirs.
I'm not sure at all they care what a person uses it for - or that there
are no other Rx choices in some cases - they just want to take control
out of the consumers' hands and make all medicines Rx.
Even some herbs, they are trying to "trademark" just by tweaking one
thing, and jacking the price to the moon.
Our supplements are at risk. Every time we turn around, there's another
bill or rider in Congress trying to block this or that particular one or
some aspect of availability.
-
Posts: 42712 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul
2007 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673
Icon 1 posted 05-17-2016 06:02 PM Profile for Keebler Edit/Delete
Post Reply With Quote
-
project,
[Again, not about Bx protocol] you can find much more solid detail here
about the specifics of this issue you raised:
http://www.anh-usa.org/about-2/overview/
The Alliance for Natural Health USA (ANH-USA)
is committed to sustainable health, the recognition that true health
requires a proactive and preventive approach that focuses on a
nutrient-rich diet, proper supplementation, and limiting our exposure to
toxic substances.
A system that is single-mindedly focused on “treating” sick people with expensive drugs, rather than maintaining healthy people, is neither
practical nor economically sustainable.
ANH-USA is part of an international organization dedicated to promoting
natural and sustainable health—and, in particular, consumer freedom of
choice in healthcare—through good science and good law: . . . [cont'd at
link]
-
Posts: 42712 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul
2007 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
project
Member
Member # 46200
Icon 1 posted 05-18-2016 11:33 AM Profile for project Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
Keebler, I agree the pharmaceutical industry has engaged in some
monopolistic practices. I just think the creators of the BX protocol are
taking advantage of the Lyme world's fear of this industry.
By creating this type of story they make it seem like any criticism of
their center is not legitimate. It also creates the impression that
their treatment works so well that Big Pharma is actually taking an
interest in it.
This is just another marketing campaign that plays to the biases of the
Lyme community.
Posts: 99 | From CO | Registered: Jul 2015 | IP: Logged | Report this
post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673
Icon 1 posted 05-18-2016 01:44 PM Profile for Keebler Edit/Delete
Post Reply With Quote
-
project, good points, indeed.
-
Posts: 42712 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul
2007 | IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743
Icon 1 posted 05-18-2016 05:14 PM Profile for Lymetoo Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by project:
This is just another marketing campaign that plays to the biases of the
Lyme community.
-
--------------------
-
oops!
--Lymetutu--
Opinions, not medical advice!
Posts: 88217 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged | Report
this post to a Moderator
Post New Topic New Poll Post A Reply Close Topic Feature Topic
Move Topic Delete Topic next oldest topic next newest topic
- Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To: Go
Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement
© 1993-2016 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to the Terms and Conditions.
Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3
Home | Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Webmaster
[*/quote*]
Logged
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUcoSUoWsAEkoDU.jpg
Voll der Genuß!
-----------------------------------------------------
[*/quote*]
--
Homöopathie ist nichts als Hütchenspielerbetrug und organisierte Kriminalität
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/565.htm http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/570.htm
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/585.htm http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/643.htm
http://ariplex.com/folia/archives/647.htm
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
