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Has anyone ever heard of this or know of someone who is using it? I
don't want to place this in medical, because I don't know if it is
legit?


I have a shameless plug on the post of that video for my Blood
Microscopy work [Smile]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOddSSKsOjc
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Editing to add after going through the process of trying to find out
more about this. Save your time, IMO, it's a scam.

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I made it all the way through the video and I'm like Meg Ryan in "When
Harry Met Sally" . . . "I'll have what [they] are having!"

It's hard to know just what the BX protocol is and their main website is
no help as I am too dazed to navigate it.

The company is based in Panama - but that does not bother me. Just would
need to know way more about it, as a company . . . but also about the
protocol.

The only thing in the YouTube 18 minute video that I would need to
confirm is if this is true and, if so, who said this?

at 16:44 --- D. Smith, Ph.D. Chief Scientist says

"when two of the most preeminent lyme doctors in the U.S. came out in conferences and stated that the BX protocol was the premier treatment
for lyme disease in N. America and Europe, I think that's when people
started to take it seriously . . ." (end quote)

I would also want to reference at least the professionals "interviewed"
too. So far, at least the anesthesiologist appears to be real.

I know the motorcycle guy may have been very sincere but only in an
interview do I think it's okay to become so emotional. I get it, but,
still, it seems a bit manipulative since it's more of a polished
presentation than a journalist interview. That's really the only thing
that seems off (well, other than they never say what BX is, other than mitochondria repair).

That's as far as I got. I'd like to know more.

In any case, there are things we can do to help our mitochondria right
here and right now. I just want to know what they are doing.

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Okay, in the midnight hour and I must call it a day. But, I did get this
far and there are some leads, unless Google is at it again, just putting
stuff in search results that may not be in the actual site.

For a start, Google: ILADS "BX protocol"

There are a few promising links . . . maybe.
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Those links took me nowhere. I hate what Google does to trick you. We
need to figure out who those key lyme doctors are who they say applaud
BX.

After more thought, I know the infection matters. You can NOT just make mitochondria stronger to over power that, you have to work with the
whole picture.

While the video is certainly seductive, and we all "get" it and want
what they seem to have achieved. What company won't tell you about the
product even after 18 minutes? That raises a red flag. And that their
website is a mystery, another red flag.

If they could talk to me in plan language, up front, offer just who
those lyme doctors are who say this is so good, well, then I'll listen
longer.

But I think I wasted enough time on it. They offer no authentic clues or
solid professional relationships that I can find.
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Maybe my file notes will get you farther - my thoughts in parentheses:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOddSSKsOjc

YouTube video

Todd Du Maurier NMD
Research Director, Lyme Patient (I find no professional search results
for him)

Enhancing Mitochondria Function - to help the infections loose their
power

(uh, does it work that way? Many who were perfectly healthy before lyme
had perfectly working mitochondria and that didn't help them)

at 11:00 Pleomorphism . . . (yeah, a good point but not sure they
explain it correctly)

BX, located in: Panama, Mexico & Dubai

R. Rowan, MD, Integrative practitioner

B. MacDougal, MD

A. Prochera, MD, lyme pt, anesthesiologist (she appears to be in Calif.
- did not look for others yet)

I just get so sick looking at their website - the colors used just spin
me to the floor. Maybe someone else can make sense of this. I would like
to know more but this site is not user friendly.

http://www.bxprotocol.com

Our Office

DELTA INSTITUTE INTERNATIONAL, LTD A Belize International Business
Corporation
Azuero Business Center, Suite 442
Avenida Perez Chitre, Panama
APD 0601-00395

Republica de Panama
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Thanks Keebler.


Yea, the whole thing seems scripted. Some great truths in there too &
more so than your typical public announcement, but it is a shame it had
to come from something like an infomercial.


Who knows though, it may just work. Imagine if a true remedy/cure is out already & we simply don't give it the attention it deserves though.
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Well, they seem to keep details hidden. Don't know how we are to learn
just what they are talking about if they don't get down to the actual
details. That's really infuriating, actually.

It makes me think the truth of how bad lyme can be is being used as a
lure but they are not truthful with us about the rest of this. They
"get" it so we are to just trust them and know the magic word to open
the right page on their website?
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I just did a quick search out of curiosity. BX protocol brought up BX antitoxin, which then brought up a page that it helps with cancer and
all kinds of other things.

I'm skeptical of "too good to be true."
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It comes in a bottle and is homeopathic.Composition:
http://www.bxprotocol.com/

The BX Energy Catalyst is a highly diluted, non-toxic derivative of pure crystalline fructose, exposed to specific frequencies within a unique
frequency chamber that creates a complex of specific energy signatures
that bind with sub quantum receptors within the fructose structure.

"Just a spoonful of sugar…" [from Mary Poppins]

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Those bottles appear to me to be vials. It looks like the BX formula has
to be injected. Why else would they talk about home-based treatment and self-administration.
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If you look closely, it is liquid, but it says "Dietary supplement"
across the bottom of the label.

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I am still not sure. Could it be they are just marketing this as a
dietary supplement so they do not have to come under strict scrutiny
with the FDA...

1/2 fluid oz is a very minute amount of drink. I could more easily see
that as an injectable vial size. And the caps on the bottles resemble
that too.

http://www.mybxprotocol.com/delta1/

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Sounds like homeopathy. Some homeopathy is injectable.

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Listen to this at 6:55. He talks about a 1 cc injection causing a
herxheimer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy2V_GQB5D8&index=3&list=PLe8-w5xAxJC5pzBxUSysJbEYRcWmc9eJP
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Does anyone know anything more about this? Like how much it costs,
especially?

It doesn't sound like there are many strings attached, so if it is
reasonably priced, one could easily give a round of this a try.
Especially from the comfort of your own home.

Most of us have given ourselves shots. It's easier than going on rounds
of picc-line ABX.

That said, one would have to have more details before seriously pursuing something like this.
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I figured out that the page was extended far below what I first saw. It
shows up as a full page but without any links. But it looks so complete
it never occurred to me to scroll down.

Still, it can be hard to figure this out. There are a few things said
that are intriguing. I wonder just who those lyme experts are they said
are behind this.
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Somehow I missed this page on the website before. But, on the homepage,
under Register, you can find details such as arraignment and costs.

The cost for the one year home program is roughly $17,000.00. I lost the inspiration to delve any further, but it appears like you cannot try a
short trial to "see how you respond." Unless there are special options
not publicly being advertised.

So, it does appear that there are strings attached. You basically have
to commit to the program. So, until there is more evidence and it is
more widely accepted, it sounds like a lot of money up front for a
treatment that is still new and in the developmental stages.

It is still so new that I would like to hear success stories through
people I somewhat know (such as support groups, or Lymenet), not just
from anonymous videos of people that I personally don't know whether
they truly exist.

And, like Keebler, I am very interested in knowing who those lyme docs
are that recommend this. That would lend much credibility if that is
true.

I do truly hope they can reconstruct a Rife universal microscope. That
would be such an advancement (even if it is 80 years after the
original)!
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Whoa. Sticker shock. TNT, thanks for that detail. I Agree: "lost the inspiration to delve any further"

I do hope they will divulge all the ingredients to those taking this.
They seem so secretive.

Did find out on YouTube that this is an injectable agent to create
oxidation inside mitochondria. And I wonder, is that really a good idea?
Yet the testimonials are all so glowing but can't find out who these
folks REALLY are as to the trueness, longevity of results, etc.

While this is not so much about mitochondria support as it is about
destroying part of the inside of the mitochondria to destroy lyme . . . mitochondria support is a good idea. But that really is a separate
topic.

Who are the investors, I wonder. Because they are scamming folks, it
appears. They seem more concerned with their investment than in really
helping to alleviate suffering by being more up front about this and
finding some way for it to be affordable to all.

This "protocol" has some major questions that go unanswered and it just
seems like a scam to me. Again, just my opinion based on a fraction of
the research into this as might normally be done by someone who would be
well.

Their slick production techniques put me off a great deal, too. My
instinct just doesn't take to that.

But, if top lyme doctors really think this is so good, why are they not sharing. I don't think there is one LLMD or LL ND who would not be
overjoyed to share something that has promise. I doubt any true lyme
expert is so jazzed as the BX people say about it.
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MITOCHONDRIA

Adding this now as someone just inquired in a new thread today. And it
seems a good place to put it for future searches.

As the supposed idea behind BX is to oxidize (another word for "destroy"
I think?) part of the inside of mitochondria to kill lyme . . .

it makes better sense to me to nourish and enhance mitochondria so they
can better work for us (which can certainly be damaged by lyme) there
are so many ways we can do that ourselves:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=130772;p=0 Mitochondria ? Many good links here.
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Looking around a bit more . . . some additional views from anonymous
posters (as we all are, really, looking for the real people inside,
eh?):

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/medicine-treatments/10820513-bx-antitoxin-treatment-for-chronic-lyme/limitstart/40
MD Junction forum - a post and several replies on this topic from summer
2014

and

Scott "The Better Health Guy" mentioned it in passing in one of his
articles. That can be searched. Just remember that a mention by a health writer, or even a doctor as he might start looking at something, is not
the same as an endorsement.

There is one doctor mentioned in the MD Junction discussion board. Seems logical to call that doctor's office and inquire as to the thinking of
this as of TODAY.

What I think we'd all like to see is better detail, clearer details -
for a start.

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sickofsick just posted this in another thread on 5 May 2015:

sickofsick writes:

"I have attended a presentation by the scientist developer and watched
all their podcasts. I feel their theories may be at least partly
accurate. They are basically addressing Lyme at a cellular level, but so
much of it is difficult to understand.

The price and mysterious nature of treatment keep most from signing up. However, I am acquainted with two people who are doing it and have
improved significantly."

(end quote from sickofsick)

from this thread - where there may be additional posts that collect over
time so anyone interested might check both:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/131851
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The YouTube testimonials give the impression "BX Protocol" cures several illnesses : Lyme disease , cancer , diabetes , rheumatoid arthritis , Parkinson's , autism , etc

However the manufacturers of "BX Protocol", "Delta Institute
International Limited" [DIIL] , say in their contract that their
"protocol" is not a cure for any disease, e.g. point 12 ...

"12. ... [BX]protocol ... is not intended for use in ... the cure,
mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other
animals. "
http://www.webcitation.org/6eGU2GcGp

The Delta Institute also say they do not employ any " licensed
physicians " , see 14(d) in their small-print ...

" 14(d) directors, trustees, affiliates, members, consultants, advisors, contractors, employees and or agents are not licensed physicians." https://archive.is/sXSKd#selection-2875.49-2875.180 ,

i.e. they don't have any real-doctors who could use real-medicine:
medicine which has been proven to be effective.
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If it sounds like it is too good to be true, it is.
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Lymenet Europe says it's a scam. http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5576

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quote:
Originally posted by Keebler:
Todd Du Maurier NMD , Research Director, Lyme Patient
(I find no professional search results for him)
You'd have better-luck finding him if you use his real name "Todd David
Mauer" [in Utah] ...

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An accurate bacronym for "NMD" is : Not Medical Doctor.
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Big Pharma Rob makes fictitious claims regarding mug shots and BX
Protocol.

The mug shot claims are an example of how desperate this big pharma
operative is to discredit the organization. The tactic involves joining
1 truth with 1 or 2 fallacies in order to achieve the desired social
impact.

Dr. Todd Arrest

The Truth:

Dr. Todd was ticketed for staying on a University campus past designated
hours and was written a ticket for trespassing. This type of misdemeanor required a mug shot under plea in abeyance. NO ARREST NO CONVICTION. Not exactly a fraudulent infraction as Big Pharma Rob asserts.

The Lie
Delta’s founders and employees are fraudsters. Delta is a scam. Delta
does not provide anything for your money. People that work for Delta are fraudsters. Want proof? Check out these Mug Shots of the shysters in
action.

Analysis:
The trickery of Big Pharma Rob is sophisticated. He is obviously an
intelligent individual with a talent at distortion and manipulation.
Many will decide not to do our protocol as a result of his criminal
activities. That is unfortunate, and also distinguishes him as an evil
person that cares little about your health.
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Also, it is a well disclosed fact that the names of Deltas principles
are partially disclosed or modified based on Deltas security protocol.

If your wondering why, then just look at Big Pharma Robs activities over
the past six months. Also consider that Big Pharma operatives and how
many integrative practitioners they have killed over the last year.

Big Pharma Rob is an operative for Big Pharma. Most people recognize his intent, but make sure you do your own investigation. Delta has certified
legal reviews from a top law firm in the U.S. that are available upon
request.
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quote:
Originally posted by Delta Legal:
... Deltas principles are partially disclosed or modified based on
Deltas security protocol ... If your wondering why consider ... how many integrative practitioners they have killed over the last year.
Yeah, that's what people hiding from assassins do : post a video of
their face on YouTube, (un-pixellated), with their new-name on-screen ,
thus sacrificing their new secret-identity, so endangering their life,
just to promote a product.

quote:
Originally posted by Delta Legal:
Also consider that Big Pharma operatives and how many integrative
practitioners they have killed over the last year.
The alleged killings of "integrative practitioners" are suicides of
fraudsters being held-to-account for their actions , who would rather kill-themselves than go-bankrupt and/or go to jail.

Run with the idea they were assassinated. Why did "Big Pharma" wait
until the "integrative practitioners", (a/k/a quacks), were facing
bankruptcy, and/or jail-time, to kill them ? . If an organization was
prepared to murder the opposition, the rational strategy would be kill
them immediately, not wait a years, only offing them as they were
circling the plug-hole.

quote:
Originally posted by Delta Legal:
Delta has certified legal reviews from a top law firm in the U.S. that
are available upon request.
Rather than waiting for a "request" for your character-references, why
not post a link to them here ?,
and while you are at it, a link please to "Dr" Dewayne Lee Smith's name
on the "University of Canterbury" website.

NB: that's "University of Canterbury", which is not the diploma-mill
called "Canterbury University" in the Seychelles.

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You can follow the responses to Big Pharma Rob's (aka xbyubon ) criminal activities on Delta's Blog

http://bxprotocol.com/blog.php
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Dr. Smith offers no apologies regarding his extensive educational
background. Almost everything that comes out of xbyubon's keyboard is a
lie, distortion, or fabrication.

Its ironic that xbyubon even shows up on this website. He is a Canadian
doctor that openly admits that Lyme Disease is a psychosomatic illness.
He works for Big Pharma as a disinformation consultant.

Delta is currently pursuing him legally, the updates of which can be
found on Delta's website.
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Some of the recent comments on
xbyubon's twitter account:

"Homeopathy is full of S***" (not sure if we can use the word here),

"reflexology and acupuncturist are a scam."

"Energy work is a scam"

"alternative medicine is a scam"

"Alkalized water or alkalinity in general is a scam."

"Royal Rife was a scam"

"The Rife Microscope was a hoax"

Making fun of Jesus Christ. He says that pills are the answer for
illness. This is his full time job. Follow him on twitter: Rob1999 if
you think we are making this up.


We have discovered his involvement is multiple disinformation campaigns concurrently.

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[Editing to correct my misreading of it]

Delta Legal, thanks for pointing out the opinion of the other poster
regarding acupuncture, etc. It's helpful to know their stance.
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Keebler, its a quote. We are quoting
xbyubon's twitter account.
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Thank you for pointing out the lack of clarity.
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Keep in mind that Delta offers a "certified legal review" from a
licensed attorney, for anyone wanting legal verification that the
company is legitimate.
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