At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing less often. From the point of view of periodontal disease, brushing and
flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with a lot of decay,
it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come into
the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a critique.
It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a Sonicare than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful to get a disclosing
solution and brush only until the stain is gone. That way you will see
the minimum amount of time/pressure required to remove the stain (and
hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem to
run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been to my knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse whether it
is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits, bruxism etc. that
may be responsible--and therefore no way to say that they are NOT responsible.
Steve
On 4/9/2019 2:55 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing less
often. From the point of view of periodontal disease, brushing and
flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with a lot of decay,
it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come into
the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a
critique. It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a Sonicare
than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful to get a
disclosing solution and brush only until the stain is gone. That way
you will see the minimum amount of time/pressure required to remove
the stain (and hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem to
run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been to my
knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse whether
it is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits, bruxism etc.
that may be responsible--and therefore no way to say that they are
NOT responsible.
Steve
Ok, thanks for the feedback, Steve.
My hygienist said it was possible it was genetic in my case,
but he made a very doubtful face, and seemed much more confident
it was over-brushing in my case. However, I am aware that sometimes
people will pretend to know something, even if they don't.
But it sounds like you think it might still be genetic. That would make me feel a bit better, because then it wasn't really my fault, although I certainly hope the recession has stopped, or at least has
slowed down.
I like your idea of having him check out my brushing technique
with the SoniCare. I will say that since my visit, I have been pressing very lightly, and it seems that my teeth get equally clean as before.
Also, the brushing is easier to perform, and is a bit faster as well.
Paul
On 4/9/2019 10:33 PM, Paul wrote:
On 4/9/2019 2:55 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing less
often. From the point of view of periodontal disease, brushing and
flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with a lot of
decay, it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come
into the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a
critique. It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a
Sonicare than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful to
get a disclosing solution and brush only until the stain is gone.
That way you will see the minimum amount of time/pressure required to
remove the stain (and hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem to
run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been to
my knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse
whether it is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits,
bruxism etc. that may be responsible--and therefore no way to say
that they are NOT responsible.
Steve
Ok, thanks for the feedback, Steve.
My hygienist said it was possible it was genetic in my case,
but he made a very doubtful face, and seemed much more confident
it was over-brushing in my case. However, I am aware that sometimes
people will pretend to know something, even if they don't.
But it sounds like you think it might still be genetic. That
would make me feel a bit better, because then it wasn't really my fault,
although I certainly hope the recession has stopped, or at least has
slowed down.
I like your idea of having him check out my brushing technique
with the SoniCare. I will say that since my visit, I have been pressing
very lightly, and it seems that my teeth get equally clean as before.
Also, the brushing is easier to perform, and is a bit faster as well.
Paul
There are some variants of periodontal disease that pretty definitively
seem to have a genetic basis, but most of these are very severe and
early forms of periodontitis, and don't look at all like the clinical
picture you're painting. Other conditions that seem to have a genetic predisposition (such as diabetes type 1) are associated with periodontal disease. I have also seen isolated cases of parents and their children having very similar pictures of gum recession so I can't rule it
out--but I'm not aware of any real literature about it.
Steve
On 4/10/2019 12:18 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 10:33 PM, Paul wrote:
On 4/9/2019 2:55 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing
less often. From the point of view of periodontal disease, brushing
and flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with a lot of
decay, it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come
into the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a
critique. It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a
Sonicare than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful to
get a disclosing solution and brush only until the stain is gone.
That way you will see the minimum amount of time/pressure required
to remove the stain (and hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem
to run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been
to my knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse
whether it is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits,
bruxism etc. that may be responsible--and therefore no way to say
that they are NOT responsible.
Steve
Ok, thanks for the feedback, Steve.
My hygienist said it was possible it was genetic in my case,
but he made a very doubtful face, and seemed much more confident
it was over-brushing in my case. However, I am aware that sometimes
people will pretend to know something, even if they don't.
But it sounds like you think it might still be genetic. That >>> would make me feel a bit better, because then it wasn't really my fault, >>> although I certainly hope the recession has stopped, or at least has
slowed down.
I like your idea of having him check out my brushing technique >>> with the SoniCare. I will say that since my visit, I have been pressing >>> very lightly, and it seems that my teeth get equally clean as before.
Also, the brushing is easier to perform, and is a bit faster as well.
Paul
There are some variants of periodontal disease that pretty
definitively seem to have a genetic basis, but most of these are very
severe and early forms of periodontitis, and don't look at all like
the clinical picture you're painting. Other conditions that seem to
have a genetic predisposition (such as diabetes type 1) are associated
with periodontal disease. I have also seen isolated cases of parents
and their children having very similar pictures of gum recession so I
can't rule it out--but I'm not aware of any real literature about it.
Steve
Following thread and using an Oral B myself, I do not use (or want)
something like their Cadillac of toothbrushes, $199.94 at Amazon:
The White Genius 9600 is Oral-B 's most advanced electric toothbrush
yet. Genius comes with Gum Protection and Position detection technology, which uses Bluetooth, your smartphone and facial recognition technology
to allow you to see and improve your daily brushing habits, and provide
you with real-time feedback about your brushing habits. Use the Oral-B
App to seamlessly pair your Genius with a smartphone and you're on your
way to brushing like your dentist recommends. The 360 Smarting with LED lights allows you to personalize your brushing experience with your
choice of 12 colors. The Smarting works with the integrated timer and pressure sensor to provide you with visual feedback on brushing time and brushing pressure. Together, they help you ensure you brush for the recommended 2-minutes while making sure you brush with appropriate
pressure to protect your gums from over-brushing. The Genius features 6 brushing modes so you can further customize your brushing experience
based on your specific oral care goals. Pro Gum Care refills contain ultrathin bristle tips for gentle, superior cleaning and 2X healthier
gums vs a regular manual toothbrush. Package contains 3 genuine Oral-B replacement refills: 1 Pro Gum Care, 1 3D White, and 1 Cross Action. Our newly designed premium charger has a sleek, convex stay-clean design and
is global voltage-enabled to allow great travel convenience. The premium Smart Travel Case lets you charge your brush and smartphone (via USB) at
the same time while using only one wall plug.
On 4/11/2019 10:49 AM, Frank wrote:
On 4/10/2019 12:18 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 10:33 PM, Paul wrote:
On 4/9/2019 2:55 PM, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing >>>>>> once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing
less often. From the point of view of periodontal disease,
brushing and flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with >>>>> a lot of decay, it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come
into the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a
critique. It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a
Sonicare than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful
to get a disclosing solution and brush only until the stain is
gone. That way you will see the minimum amount of time/pressure
required to remove the stain (and hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem
to run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been >>>>> to my knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse
whether it is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits,
bruxism etc. that may be responsible--and therefore no way to say
that they are NOT responsible.
Steve
Ok, thanks for the feedback, Steve.
My hygienist said it was possible it was genetic in my case, >>>> but he made a very doubtful face, and seemed much more confident
it was over-brushing in my case. However, I am aware that sometimes
people will pretend to know something, even if they don't.
But it sounds like you think it might still be genetic. That >>>> would make me feel a bit better, because then it wasn't really my
fault,
although I certainly hope the recession has stopped, or at least has
slowed down.
I like your idea of having him check out my brushing technique >>>> with the SoniCare. I will say that since my visit, I have been
pressing
very lightly, and it seems that my teeth get equally clean as before.
Also, the brushing is easier to perform, and is a bit faster as well.
Paul
There are some variants of periodontal disease that pretty
definitively seem to have a genetic basis, but most of these are very
severe and early forms of periodontitis, and don't look at all like
the clinical picture you're painting. Other conditions that seem to
have a genetic predisposition (such as diabetes type 1) are
associated with periodontal disease. I have also seen isolated cases
of parents and their children having very similar pictures of gum
recession so I can't rule it out--but I'm not aware of any real
literature about it.
Steve
Following thread and using an Oral B myself, I do not use (or want)
something like their Cadillac of toothbrushes, $199.94 at Amazon:
The White Genius 9600 is Oral-B 's most advanced electric toothbrush
yet. Genius comes with Gum Protection and Position detection
technology, which uses Bluetooth, your smartphone and facial
recognition technology to allow you to see and improve your daily
brushing habits, and provide you with real-time feedback about your
brushing habits. Use the Oral-B App to seamlessly pair your Genius
with a smartphone and you're on your way to brushing like your dentist
recommends. The 360 Smarting with LED lights allows you to personalize
your brushing experience with your choice of 12 colors. The Smarting
works with the integrated timer and pressure sensor to provide you
with visual feedback on brushing time and brushing pressure. Together,
they help you ensure you brush for the recommended 2-minutes while
making sure you brush with appropriate pressure to protect your gums
from over-brushing. The Genius features 6 brushing modes so you can
further customize your brushing experience based on your specific oral
care goals. Pro Gum Care refills contain ultrathin bristle tips for
gentle, superior cleaning and 2X healthier gums vs a regular manual
toothbrush. Package contains 3 genuine Oral-B replacement refills: 1
Pro Gum Care, 1 3D White, and 1 Cross Action. Our newly designed
premium charger has a sleek, convex stay-clean design and is global
voltage-enabled to allow great travel convenience. The premium Smart
Travel Case lets you charge your brush and smartphone (via USB) at the
same time while using only one wall plug.
With all that tech it should vacuum your floors too.
Steve
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
"LenJP" wrote in message news:q9qiko$k0l$1@dont-email.me...
"Steven Bornfeld" wrote in message news:q8j4ce$18li$1@gioia.aioe.org...
On 4/9/2019 4:42 PM, Paul wrote:
At my last dental cleaning, the dental hygienist felt that
my gum recession (I am 49 years old) was caused by pressing
too hard with my SoniCare toothbrush, which I have been using
for about ten years now.
He felt my gum recession was NOT due to bruxism, or grinding
of the teeth while sleeping, because my back molars have peaks
which were not worn down very much. So at most, I am a light
grinder.
He also didn't think it was likely that my gum recession was
due to genetics, and he stated that it was possible I could
keep the gums that I still have, if I simply brushed with my
SoniCare very lightly, using no more than the weight of the
brush, for the amount of pressure into the gums.
But what about not brushing twice a day? How about only brushing
once a day? Would this possibly help me?
Thanks for any good advice!
Brushing with correct technique is a better option than brushing less often. From the point of view of periodontal disease, brushing and
flossing once a day MAY be adequate. For someone with a lot of decay,
it is ideal to brush and floss whenever you eat.
What the hygienist SHOULD have volunteered is to tell you to come into
the office with your Sonicare and watch you brush, and give a critique.
It is less likely you will destroy your gums with a Sonicare than with a regular manual toothbrush. It may be useful to get a disclosing
solution and brush only until the stain is gone. That way you will see
the minimum amount of time/pressure required to remove the stain (and
hence the plaque).
I have seen gum recession (and other periodontal issues) that seem to
run in families. For the vast majority of these, there has been to my knowledge any direct genetic link. There is no way to parse whether it
is genetics, environment, diet, oral hygiene habits, bruxism etc. that
may be responsible--and therefore no way to say that they are NOT responsible.
Steve
----------------------------------------------
Interesting questions. I had radiation treatment for head and neck cancer and the radiologist keeps stressing how important it is for me to take the best possible care of my teeth. This includes brushing after every time so there won't be food left there to help cause tooth decay. I also have a
dry
mouth due to the radiation, which is another reason for brushing often.
I have been wanting to get some type of electronic tooth brush for a long time now but just never seem to get around to getting one. The biggest barrier for me is that I don't know what to get. There are so many options out there -- sonic this, Oral B that, rotating, pulsing, or whatever.
I am guessing that there is no known real difference in how each of those electronic toothbrush options work, But, if anyone could suggest one that I should or could pick to start out with, I would appreciate that. Then I could just go get one of those -- whichever one it is -- and try it out and be done with it.
Thanks
P.S. I meant brushing after every time I eat.
"LenJP" wrote in message news:q9qiko$k0l$1@dont-email.me...
Interesting questions. I had radiation treatment for head and neck cancer and the radiologist keeps stressing how important it is for me to take the best possible care of my teeth. This includes brushing after every time
so
there won't be food left there to help cause tooth decay. I also have a
dry
mouth due to the radiation, which is another reason for brushing often.
I have been wanting to get some type of electronic tooth brush for a long time now but just never seem to get around to getting one. The biggest barrier for me is that I don't know what to get. There are so many
options
out there -- sonic this, Oral B that, rotating, pulsing, or whatever.
I am guessing that there is no known real difference in how each of those electronic toothbrush options work, But, if anyone could suggest one
that
I should or could pick to start out with, I would appreciate that. Then I could just go get one of those -- whichever one it is -- and try it out
and
be done with it.
Thanks
P.S. I meant brushing after every time I eat.
"Steven Bornfeld" wrote in message news:q9qndq$e7h$1@gioia.aioe.org...
On 4/24/2019 5:01 PM, LenJP wrote:
"LenJP" wrote in message news:q9qiko$k0l$1@dont-email.me...
Interesting questions. I had radiation treatment for head and neck
cancer
and the radiologist keeps stressing how important it is for me to take
the
best possible care of my teeth. This includes brushing after every
time so
there won't be food left there to help cause tooth decay. I also have
a dry
mouth due to the radiation, which is another reason for brushing often.
I have been wanting to get some type of electronic tooth brush for a long
time now but just never seem to get around to getting one. The biggest
barrier for me is that I don't know what to get. There are so many
options
out there -- sonic this, Oral B that, rotating, pulsing, or whatever.
I am guessing that there is no known real difference in how each of those
electronic toothbrush options work, But, if anyone could suggest one
that
I should or could pick to start out with, I would appreciate that.
Then I
could just go get one of those -- whichever one it is -- and try it
out and
be done with it.
Thanks
P.S. I meant brushing after every time I eat.
There is no way to predict which is going to work best for YOU. You may have to try a couple and see which works best. You doubtless know that
the radiation puts you at serious risk if you have to have a tooth in
the path of the radiation extracted. The radiation compromises the
healing ability of the bone. The dry mouth also puts you at greater
risk for decay. If your dentist doesn't know your history, let him/her know. You likely should be on a high-fluoride gel like Prevident 5000,
and fluoride varnishes should be considered.
Steve
--------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks Steve. I did have some type of 360 degree dental imaging done
before starting the radiation. And, I always see my dentist regularly;
and I saw him before, during, and after the radiation treatments. I
kept him informed of the radiation and chemo treatments that I received
all along. All was well with my teeth before, and so far all is
remaining well. The radiation involved the throat area and neck lymph
nodes on both sides. The radiologist and my dentist both prescribed Dentagel 1.1% which I am supposed to use at night. I forget or neglect
to do that often, but at every follow-up visit to the radiologist he
stresses tooth care and using the Dentagel. With you reinforcing that
idea again here, I think I will be much more diligent at using the
dental gel regularly. I do brush often and I do floss. So far, I have been lucky and had no dental issues since the radiation.
As far as getting an electronic toothbrush, I think I will just pick one
and see what happens. It really is confusing because I see so many different commercials for them. The latest commercial that I have been seeing is one that also pulses water (similar to a waterpik, I guess)
and they seem to promote it as brushing and flossing at the same time.
It's an ad where they show them "brushing" debri from an ear of corn.
I'm a little skeptical about that ad and product. I think I'll probably just pick an Oral B for now and see what happens.
Thanks again for the feedback.
blah, blah, blah ....,
"Frank" wrote in message news:q9v719$q01$1@dont-email.me...
On 4/25/2019 12:05 PM, LenJP wrote:
blah, blah, blah ....,
I looked at reviews on the Water Pic brush and find it best to keep
brushing and water picing separate. Using both at the same time appears messy. Unit is pricey too and it does not vacuum your floors.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Thanks Frank. Very funny! I'll keep an eye out to see if they come out with a new version that will vacuum my floors!
But, seriously, I agree with you. The unit is pricey and it does seem
like it would be a mess. And just keeping the water pik and brushing as separate processes makes sense to me.c
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