• As the pandemic winds down, anti-vaccine activists are building a legal

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 5 10:25:55 2023
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/13821fj/as_the_pandemic_winds_down_antivaccine_activists/

    May 4, 20235:01 AM ET
    By

    Lisa Hagen


    Steve Kirsch, a tech entrepreneur turned anti-vaccine activist, at a
    conference in Atlanta for future COVID and vaccine-related litigation
    that he helped organize and fund.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    Steve Kirsch is a tech entrepreneur who made hundreds of millions of
    dollars after founding an early search engine and helping invent the
    optical computer mouse.

    Recently, he stood before a gathering of more than 250 lawyers in
    Atlanta while wearing a custom black T-shirt designed like a dictionary
    entry for the phrase "misinformation superspreader."

    "Our definition is it's someone who's basically pointing out the truth
    and it just happens to disagree with the mainstream narrative we're
    known as misinformation spreaders, because what they're trying to do is
    they're trying to control the narrative," Kirsch told NPR.

    By "they," Kirsch means a network of pharmaceutical companies,
    governments, doctors and journalists that he argues are covering up a pandemic-driven plot to poison the world for profit.

    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly
    reduce the chances of death or serious illness. While many Americans may
    share a distrust of pharmaceutical companies and healthcare systems,
    there is no evidence of the kind of conspiracy alleged in these circles.

    In recent years, Kirsch has become an increasingly vocal and generous
    funder of the anti-vaccine movement. He helped organize and fund the
    conference to map out strategies for anti-vaccine and COVID-19-focused litigation as the pandemic winds down.

    Sponsor Message

    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    Their proposed targets include hospitals, school systems, medical
    licensing boards and, the holy grail, pharmaceutical companies that make vaccines.

    "My goal is to expose every single one of these a**holes," Kirsch told
    the audience, to uproarious applause.

    The lawyers met as the anti-vaccine movement is at a crossroads. The
    COVID-19 pandemic brought in new energy and supporters but is fading
    from public life. On May 11, the federal government's public health
    emergency will expire. To keep the cause alive, some in the movement are
    trying to build up a legal arm.


    Anti-vaccine merchandise available at the conference.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    The legal conference drew a mix of people who've advocated against
    vaccines for years before the pandemic, and those, like Kirsch, who are
    more recent converts. He said he actually got two Moderna shots when
    COVID vaccines became available.

    Kirsch's path to the conference started with an effort to find
    treatments for COVID.

    From funding research to organizing lawyers
    "When the pandemic hit, I put in a million dollars of my own money and
    raised another $5 million dollars. We started the COVID 19 Early
    Treatment Fund and we started funding early treatments," said Kirsch.

    The goal was to run trials on existing treatments that might help combat
    the virus. Reporting by MIT's Technology Review found the project had
    brought together highly respected biologists and drug researchers who
    believed in the work. But when some of the research seemed to run into
    dead ends, Kirsch reportedly began to clash with the scientists he was
    funding.

    Sponsor Message

    "If the data is is is bad and doesn't make sense and the study was badly
    done, then I have a right to reject it," said Kirsch. "And so the point
    is that if a study is well done, you'll see that I will like the study."

    Kirsch has a tendency to offer large sums of money to anyone willing to
    debate his assertions.

    "But they won't do that. They won't get into any discussion with me
    because they don't want to answer a single question," Kirsch said.

    Jeffrey Morris has tried to engage with Kirsch for years. In his spare
    time, the professor of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania
    has gone line by line through some of Kirsch's claims, providing
    answers, context and explanations. They once had a long conversation
    over Zoom.

    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans
    "And it was an interesting discussion, you know, because he admitted
    that he was not a scientist and didn't think like one. And so I was
    trying to connect with him and help him understand the leaps he was
    making in his arguments to get him to think more carefully. Because I
    could tell he was someone with a lot of energy and passion on the
    issue," said Morris, who has watched Kirsch pull millions of views on
    some of his COVID vaccine content.

    When someone makes a dramatic claim that vaccines are killing millions,
    it's their burden to show the evidence, said Morris, not the other way
    around.

    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    "They're presuming that they have the entitlement that what they're
    saying can be presumed to be true without them demonstrating rigorously
    that it's true, and that it is the responsibility of society and the
    scientific community to prove them wrong. And if they fail to prove them
    wrong, or if they don't show up, then they're really offended. And then
    to them, that just proves their guilt. It proves the cover up," he said.

    As government cover ups became a regular talking point for Kirsch, the researchers abandoned his early treatment project. Two years and $2
    million later, he's hoping to organize a sustained legal insurgency
    against public health agencies, drug manufacturers, hospitals and schools.

    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    Attorney Pete Serano traveled from Washington State, where he represents
    three doctors accused of spreading false statements about COVID-19 and
    said finding a supportive community of lawyers and experts he can call
    for help is "monumental."

    "You know, it really felt like it was me against the world, even though
    there were probably maybe half a dozen to a dozen lawyers in Washington fighting. It still feels - it's extremely lonely. It's extremely
    difficult," said Serano.

    Conference organizers asked reporters not to record entire
    presentations. But one thing Serano and other attendees heard again and
    again from speakers: In this room, you're among heroes.

    Sponsor Message

    "There are people who are tremendously intellectually talented and
    gifted in so many ways who are using those talents to fight for your
    rights, to fight for my rights," said Serano.

    Creating a new body of law
    The fights include everything from suing educators who enforced mask
    mandates, to demanding vaccination status be made a protected class,
    like race or sexual orientation. Thousands of lawsuits pushing back
    against public health measures have been filed since the pandemic.

    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital The goal of this conference is to bring lawyers behind these suits
    together, study all that legal spaghetti on the wall and analyze what
    has and hasn't worked. They mean to probe for weak points in the law,
    build a network of experts and plaintiffs, and, they hope, inspire new laws.

    Conference organizers like attorney Warner Mendenhall want to ensure a
    steady supply of lawyers who see opportunity, whether ideologically
    aligned with the anti-vaccine movement or not.

    "I hate to say this but greed is good in this instance," said Mendenhall
    on a webinar promoting the event. "So if lawyers can see that they can
    get rich, and we're trying to prove that you can - we haven't yet, but
    we will - it'll bring lawyers in simply for the money."

    Fears about vaccines are not new. The current legal structure around
    vaccines is the result of a wave of lawsuits in the 1970s and 80s. It
    tries to balance individual freedom with public health needs, according
    to Anjali Deshmukh, a pediatrician and professor of administrative law
    at Georgia State University.

    "It's not only about protecting us, but it's about protecting our
    community. And that's a different calculus, where it's now within the government's interests to make sure that these diseases are not
    spreading," Deshmukh said.

    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID telemedicine
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID telemedicine
    But the law is not fixed, she added, and well-funded, well-organized
    groups can be a powerful force.

    "And I think like we saw with Roe v Wade, you had a case that was passed
    50 years ago and then had various chips away at it until the ground
    crumbled," said Deshmukh.

    The civil rights movement, organized labor and women's rights advocates
    have also relied on a potent mix of court battles and ground campaigns
    to sway public sentiment.

    "The court of public opinion is more important than I think we give
    credit to in both law and medicine. We can have all the science in the
    world, we can have laws that make sense, but laws change. Science is not
    always convincing when you're coming from a place of fear," said Deshmukh.

    Sponsor Message

    Cases don't even have to succeed in court to have an impact, Deshmukh
    said. Influencers and headlines can frame settlements, technical legal
    outcomes or compelling, emotional testimony as victories for one side or another. She said these lawsuits also come at a time when the Supreme
    Court is weakening the powers of many regulators.

    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    With the COVID national emergency order set to end, keeping
    COVID-related grievances alive in the courts may also help sustain the
    larger movement against vaccines.

    Serano, the lawyer from Washington State, says the kinds of cases that
    brought him here may become the bulk of his work for years.

    "I plan on being that 80 year old guy talking about what it was like in
    the 2020s and COVID 19 and telling some young whippersnapper lawyer
    about how we did it back when," he said.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Fri May 5 14:57:39 2023
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/13821fj/as_the_pandemic_winds_down_antivaccine_activists/

    May 4, 20235:01 AM ET
    By

    Lisa Hagen


    Steve Kirsch, a tech entrepreneur turned anti-vaccine activist, at a >conference in Atlanta for future COVID and vaccine-related litigation
    that he helped organize and fund.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    Steve Kirsch is a tech entrepreneur who made hundreds of millions of
    dollars after founding an early search engine and helping invent the
    optical computer mouse.

    Recently, he stood before a gathering of more than 250 lawyers in
    Atlanta while wearing a custom black T-shirt designed like a dictionary
    entry for the phrase "misinformation superspreader."

    "Our definition is it's someone who's basically pointing out the truth
    and it just happens to disagree with the mainstream narrative we're
    known as misinformation spreaders, because what they're trying to do is >they're trying to control the narrative," Kirsch told NPR.

    By "they," Kirsch means a network of pharmaceutical companies,
    governments, doctors and journalists that he argues are covering up a >pandemic-driven plot to poison the world for profit.

    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories >UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly >reduce the chances of death or serious illness. While many Americans may >share a distrust of pharmaceutical companies and healthcare systems,
    there is no evidence of the kind of conspiracy alleged in these circles.

    In recent years, Kirsch has become an increasingly vocal and generous
    funder of the anti-vaccine movement. He helped organize and fund the >conference to map out strategies for anti-vaccine and COVID-19-focused >litigation as the pandemic winds down.

    Sponsor Message

    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    Their proposed targets include hospitals, school systems, medical
    licensing boards and, the holy grail, pharmaceutical companies that make >vaccines.

    "My goal is to expose every single one of these a**holes," Kirsch told
    the audience, to uproarious applause.

    The lawyers met as the anti-vaccine movement is at a crossroads. The
    COVID-19 pandemic brought in new energy and supporters but is fading
    from public life. On May 11, the federal government's public health
    emergency will expire. To keep the cause alive, some in the movement are >trying to build up a legal arm.


    Anti-vaccine merchandise available at the conference.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    The legal conference drew a mix of people who've advocated against
    vaccines for years before the pandemic, and those, like Kirsch, who are
    more recent converts. He said he actually got two Moderna shots when
    COVID vaccines became available.

    Kirsch's path to the conference started with an effort to find
    treatments for COVID.

    From funding research to organizing lawyers
    "When the pandemic hit, I put in a million dollars of my own money and
    raised another $5 million dollars. We started the COVID 19 Early
    Treatment Fund and we started funding early treatments," said Kirsch.

    The goal was to run trials on existing treatments that might help combat
    the virus. Reporting by MIT's Technology Review found the project had
    brought together highly respected biologists and drug researchers who >believed in the work. But when some of the research seemed to run into
    dead ends, Kirsch reportedly began to clash with the scientists he was >funding.

    Sponsor Message

    "If the data is is is bad and doesn't make sense and the study was badly >done, then I have a right to reject it," said Kirsch. "And so the point
    is that if a study is well done, you'll see that I will like the study."

    Kirsch has a tendency to offer large sums of money to anyone willing to >debate his assertions.

    "But they won't do that. They won't get into any discussion with me
    because they don't want to answer a single question," Kirsch said.

    Jeffrey Morris has tried to engage with Kirsch for years. In his spare
    time, the professor of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania
    has gone line by line through some of Kirsch's claims, providing
    answers, context and explanations. They once had a long conversation
    over Zoom.

    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump >Republicans
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump >Republicans
    "And it was an interesting discussion, you know, because he admitted
    that he was not a scientist and didn't think like one. And so I was
    trying to connect with him and help him understand the leaps he was
    making in his arguments to get him to think more carefully. Because I
    could tell he was someone with a lot of energy and passion on the
    issue," said Morris, who has watched Kirsch pull millions of views on
    some of his COVID vaccine content.

    When someone makes a dramatic claim that vaccines are killing millions,
    it's their burden to show the evidence, said Morris, not the other way >around.

    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    "They're presuming that they have the entitlement that what they're
    saying can be presumed to be true without them demonstrating rigorously
    that it's true, and that it is the responsibility of society and the >scientific community to prove them wrong. And if they fail to prove them >wrong, or if they don't show up, then they're really offended. And then
    to them, that just proves their guilt. It proves the cover up," he said.

    As government cover ups became a regular talking point for Kirsch, the >researchers abandoned his early treatment project. Two years and $2
    million later, he's hoping to organize a sustained legal insurgency
    against public health agencies, drug manufacturers, hospitals and schools.

    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    Attorney Pete Serano traveled from Washington State, where he represents >three doctors accused of spreading false statements about COVID-19 and
    said finding a supportive community of lawyers and experts he can call
    for help is "monumental."

    "You know, it really felt like it was me against the world, even though
    there were probably maybe half a dozen to a dozen lawyers in Washington >fighting. It still feels - it's extremely lonely. It's extremely
    difficult," said Serano.

    Conference organizers asked reporters not to record entire
    presentations. But one thing Serano and other attendees heard again and
    again from speakers: In this room, you're among heroes.

    Sponsor Message

    "There are people who are tremendously intellectually talented and
    gifted in so many ways who are using those talents to fight for your
    rights, to fight for my rights," said Serano.

    Creating a new body of law
    The fights include everything from suing educators who enforced mask >mandates, to demanding vaccination status be made a protected class,
    like race or sexual orientation. Thousands of lawsuits pushing back
    against public health measures have been filed since the pandemic.

    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital >UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital >The goal of this conference is to bring lawyers behind these suits
    together, study all that legal spaghetti on the wall and analyze what
    has and hasn't worked. They mean to probe for weak points in the law,
    build a network of experts and plaintiffs, and, they hope, inspire new laws.

    Conference organizers like attorney Warner Mendenhall want to ensure a
    steady supply of lawyers who see opportunity, whether ideologically
    aligned with the anti-vaccine movement or not.

    "I hate to say this but greed is good in this instance," said Mendenhall
    on a webinar promoting the event. "So if lawyers can see that they can
    get rich, and we're trying to prove that you can - we haven't yet, but
    we will - it'll bring lawyers in simply for the money."

    Fears about vaccines are not new. The current legal structure around
    vaccines is the result of a wave of lawsuits in the 1970s and 80s. It
    tries to balance individual freedom with public health needs, according
    to Anjali Deshmukh, a pediatrician and professor of administrative law
    at Georgia State University.

    "It's not only about protecting us, but it's about protecting our
    community. And that's a different calculus, where it's now within the >government's interests to make sure that these diseases are not
    spreading," Deshmukh said.

    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID >telemedicine
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID >telemedicine
    But the law is not fixed, she added, and well-funded, well-organized
    groups can be a powerful force.

    "And I think like we saw with Roe v Wade, you had a case that was passed
    50 years ago and then had various chips away at it until the ground >crumbled," said Deshmukh.

    The civil rights movement, organized labor and women's rights advocates
    have also relied on a potent mix of court battles and ground campaigns
    to sway public sentiment.

    "The court of public opinion is more important than I think we give
    credit to in both law and medicine. We can have all the science in the
    world, we can have laws that make sense, but laws change. Science is not >always convincing when you're coming from a place of fear," said Deshmukh.

    Sponsor Message

    Cases don't even have to succeed in court to have an impact, Deshmukh
    said. Influencers and headlines can frame settlements, technical legal >outcomes or compelling, emotional testimony as victories for one side or >another. She said these lawsuits also come at a time when the Supreme
    Court is weakening the powers of many regulators.

    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    With the COVID national emergency order set to end, keeping
    COVID-related grievances alive in the courts may also help sustain the
    larger movement against vaccines.

    Serano, the lawyer from Washington State, says the kinds of cases that >brought him here may become the bulk of his work for years.

    "I plan on being that 80 year old guy talking about what it was like in
    the 2020s and COVID 19 and telling some young whippersnapper lawyer
    about how we did it back when," he said.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use
    Apostle Paul's secret (http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ). Though masking
    is less protective, it helps us avoid the appearance of doing the evil
    of spreading airborne pathogens while there are people getting sick
    because of not being 100% protected. It is written that we're to
    "abstain from **all** appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Source:
    https://biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/5-22.htm

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to http://WDJW.great-site.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to
    call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of
    stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the best while
    preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations
    and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu &
    Delta lineage mutations combining via slip-RNA-replication to form
    hybrids like http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current
    COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?









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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Fri May 5 17:01:40 2023
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    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/13821fj/as_the_pandemic_winds_down_antivaccine_activists/

    May 4, 20235:01 AM ET
    By

    Lisa Hagen


    Steve Kirsch, a tech entrepreneur turned anti-vaccine activist, at a
    conference in Atlanta for future COVID and vaccine-related litigation
    that he helped organize and fund.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    Steve Kirsch is a tech entrepreneur who made hundreds of millions of
    dollars after founding an early search engine and helping invent the
    optical computer mouse.

    Recently, he stood before a gathering of more than 250 lawyers in
    Atlanta while wearing a custom black T-shirt designed like a dictionary
    entry for the phrase "misinformation superspreader."

    "Our definition is it's someone who's basically pointing out the truth
    and it just happens to disagree with the mainstream narrative we're
    known as misinformation spreaders, because what they're trying to do is
    they're trying to control the narrative," Kirsch told NPR.

    By "they," Kirsch means a network of pharmaceutical companies,
    governments, doctors and journalists that he argues are covering up a
    pandemic-driven plot to poison the world for profit.

    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly
    reduce the chances of death or serious illness. While many Americans may
    share a distrust of pharmaceutical companies and healthcare systems,
    there is no evidence of the kind of conspiracy alleged in these circles.

    In recent years, Kirsch has become an increasingly vocal and generous
    funder of the anti-vaccine movement. He helped organize and fund the
    conference to map out strategies for anti-vaccine and COVID-19-focused
    litigation as the pandemic winds down.

    Sponsor Message

    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    Their proposed targets include hospitals, school systems, medical
    licensing boards and, the holy grail, pharmaceutical companies that make
    vaccines.

    "My goal is to expose every single one of these a**holes," Kirsch told
    the audience, to uproarious applause.

    The lawyers met as the anti-vaccine movement is at a crossroads. The
    COVID-19 pandemic brought in new energy and supporters but is fading
    from public life. On May 11, the federal government's public health
    emergency will expire. To keep the cause alive, some in the movement are
    trying to build up a legal arm.


    Anti-vaccine merchandise available at the conference.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    The legal conference drew a mix of people who've advocated against
    vaccines for years before the pandemic, and those, like Kirsch, who are
    more recent converts. He said he actually got two Moderna shots when
    COVID vaccines became available.

    Kirsch's path to the conference started with an effort to find
    treatments for COVID.

    From funding research to organizing lawyers
    "When the pandemic hit, I put in a million dollars of my own money and
    raised another $5 million dollars. We started the COVID 19 Early
    Treatment Fund and we started funding early treatments," said Kirsch.

    The goal was to run trials on existing treatments that might help combat
    the virus. Reporting by MIT's Technology Review found the project had
    brought together highly respected biologists and drug researchers who
    believed in the work. But when some of the research seemed to run into
    dead ends, Kirsch reportedly began to clash with the scientists he was
    funding.

    Sponsor Message

    "If the data is is is bad and doesn't make sense and the study was badly
    done, then I have a right to reject it," said Kirsch. "And so the point
    is that if a study is well done, you'll see that I will like the study."

    Kirsch has a tendency to offer large sums of money to anyone willing to
    debate his assertions.

    "But they won't do that. They won't get into any discussion with me
    because they don't want to answer a single question," Kirsch said.

    Jeffrey Morris has tried to engage with Kirsch for years. In his spare
    time, the professor of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania
    has gone line by line through some of Kirsch's claims, providing
    answers, context and explanations. They once had a long conversation
    over Zoom.

    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump
    Republicans
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump
    Republicans
    "And it was an interesting discussion, you know, because he admitted
    that he was not a scientist and didn't think like one. And so I was
    trying to connect with him and help him understand the leaps he was
    making in his arguments to get him to think more carefully. Because I
    could tell he was someone with a lot of energy and passion on the
    issue," said Morris, who has watched Kirsch pull millions of views on
    some of his COVID vaccine content.

    When someone makes a dramatic claim that vaccines are killing millions,
    it's their burden to show the evidence, said Morris, not the other way
    around.

    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    "They're presuming that they have the entitlement that what they're
    saying can be presumed to be true without them demonstrating rigorously
    that it's true, and that it is the responsibility of society and the
    scientific community to prove them wrong. And if they fail to prove them
    wrong, or if they don't show up, then they're really offended. And then
    to them, that just proves their guilt. It proves the cover up," he said.

    As government cover ups became a regular talking point for Kirsch, the
    researchers abandoned his early treatment project. Two years and $2
    million later, he's hoping to organize a sustained legal insurgency
    against public health agencies, drug manufacturers, hospitals and schools. >>
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    Attorney Pete Serano traveled from Washington State, where he represents
    three doctors accused of spreading false statements about COVID-19 and
    said finding a supportive community of lawyers and experts he can call
    for help is "monumental."

    "You know, it really felt like it was me against the world, even though
    there were probably maybe half a dozen to a dozen lawyers in Washington
    fighting. It still feels - it's extremely lonely. It's extremely
    difficult," said Serano.

    Conference organizers asked reporters not to record entire
    presentations. But one thing Serano and other attendees heard again and
    again from speakers: In this room, you're among heroes.

    Sponsor Message

    "There are people who are tremendously intellectually talented and
    gifted in so many ways who are using those talents to fight for your
    rights, to fight for my rights," said Serano.

    Creating a new body of law
    The fights include everything from suing educators who enforced mask
    mandates, to demanding vaccination status be made a protected class,
    like race or sexual orientation. Thousands of lawsuits pushing back
    against public health measures have been filed since the pandemic.

    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital >> UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital >> The goal of this conference is to bring lawyers behind these suits
    together, study all that legal spaghetti on the wall and analyze what
    has and hasn't worked. They mean to probe for weak points in the law,
    build a network of experts and plaintiffs, and, they hope, inspire new laws. >>
    Conference organizers like attorney Warner Mendenhall want to ensure a
    steady supply of lawyers who see opportunity, whether ideologically
    aligned with the anti-vaccine movement or not.

    "I hate to say this but greed is good in this instance," said Mendenhall
    on a webinar promoting the event. "So if lawyers can see that they can
    get rich, and we're trying to prove that you can - we haven't yet, but
    we will - it'll bring lawyers in simply for the money."

    Fears about vaccines are not new. The current legal structure around
    vaccines is the result of a wave of lawsuits in the 1970s and 80s. It
    tries to balance individual freedom with public health needs, according
    to Anjali Deshmukh, a pediatrician and professor of administrative law
    at Georgia State University.

    "It's not only about protecting us, but it's about protecting our
    community. And that's a different calculus, where it's now within the
    government's interests to make sure that these diseases are not
    spreading," Deshmukh said.

    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID
    telemedicine
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID
    telemedicine
    But the law is not fixed, she added, and well-funded, well-organized
    groups can be a powerful force.

    "And I think like we saw with Roe v Wade, you had a case that was passed
    50 years ago and then had various chips away at it until the ground
    crumbled," said Deshmukh.

    The civil rights movement, organized labor and women's rights advocates
    have also relied on a potent mix of court battles and ground campaigns
    to sway public sentiment.

    "The court of public opinion is more important than I think we give
    credit to in both law and medicine. We can have all the science in the
    world, we can have laws that make sense, but laws change. Science is not
    always convincing when you're coming from a place of fear," said Deshmukh. >>
    Sponsor Message

    Cases don't even have to succeed in court to have an impact, Deshmukh
    said. Influencers and headlines can frame settlements, technical legal
    outcomes or compelling, emotional testimony as victories for one side or
    another. She said these lawsuits also come at a time when the Supreme
    Court is weakening the powers of many regulators.

    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    With the COVID national emergency order set to end, keeping
    COVID-related grievances alive in the courts may also help sustain the
    larger movement against vaccines.

    Serano, the lawyer from Washington State, says the kinds of cases that
    brought him here may become the bulk of his work for years.

    "I plan on being that 80 year old guy talking about what it was like in
    the 2020s and COVID 19 and telling some young whippersnapper lawyer
    about how we did it back when," he said.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use
    Apostle Paul's secret (http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ). Though masking
    is less protective, it helps us avoid the appearance of doing the evil
    of spreading airborne pathogens while there are people getting sick
    because of not being 100% protected. It is written that we're to
    "abstain from **all** appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Source:
    https://biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/5-22.htm

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to http://WDJW.great-site.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to
    call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of
    stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the best while
    preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations
    and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu &
    Delta lineage mutations combining via slip-RNA-replication to form
    hybrids like http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current
    COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Fri May 5 20:24:46 2023
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/13821fj/as_the_pandemic_winds_down_antivaccine_activists/

    May 4, 20235:01 AM ET
    By

    Lisa Hagen


    Steve Kirsch, a tech entrepreneur turned anti-vaccine activist, at a
    conference in Atlanta for future COVID and vaccine-related litigation
    that he helped organize and fund.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    Steve Kirsch is a tech entrepreneur who made hundreds of millions of
    dollars after founding an early search engine and helping invent the
    optical computer mouse.

    Recently, he stood before a gathering of more than 250 lawyers in
    Atlanta while wearing a custom black T-shirt designed like a dictionary
    entry for the phrase "misinformation superspreader."

    "Our definition is it's someone who's basically pointing out the truth
    and it just happens to disagree with the mainstream narrative we're
    known as misinformation spreaders, because what they're trying to do is
    they're trying to control the narrative," Kirsch told NPR.

    By "they," Kirsch means a network of pharmaceutical companies,
    governments, doctors and journalists that he argues are covering up a
    pandemic-driven plot to poison the world for profit.

    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories
    The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly >>> reduce the chances of death or serious illness. While many Americans may >>> share a distrust of pharmaceutical companies and healthcare systems,
    there is no evidence of the kind of conspiracy alleged in these circles. >>>
    In recent years, Kirsch has become an increasingly vocal and generous
    funder of the anti-vaccine movement. He helped organize and fund the
    conference to map out strategies for anti-vaccine and COVID-19-focused
    litigation as the pandemic winds down.

    Sponsor Message

    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    Their mom died of COVID. They say conspiracy theories are what really
    killed her
    Their proposed targets include hospitals, school systems, medical
    licensing boards and, the holy grail, pharmaceutical companies that make >>> vaccines.

    "My goal is to expose every single one of these a**holes," Kirsch told
    the audience, to uproarious applause.

    The lawyers met as the anti-vaccine movement is at a crossroads. The
    COVID-19 pandemic brought in new energy and supporters but is fading >>>from public life. On May 11, the federal government's public health
    emergency will expire. To keep the cause alive, some in the movement are >>> trying to build up a legal arm.


    Anti-vaccine merchandise available at the conference.
    Lisa Hagen/NPR
    The legal conference drew a mix of people who've advocated against
    vaccines for years before the pandemic, and those, like Kirsch, who are
    more recent converts. He said he actually got two Moderna shots when
    COVID vaccines became available.

    Kirsch's path to the conference started with an effort to find
    treatments for COVID.

    From funding research to organizing lawyers
    "When the pandemic hit, I put in a million dollars of my own money and
    raised another $5 million dollars. We started the COVID 19 Early
    Treatment Fund and we started funding early treatments," said Kirsch.

    The goal was to run trials on existing treatments that might help combat >>> the virus. Reporting by MIT's Technology Review found the project had
    brought together highly respected biologists and drug researchers who
    believed in the work. But when some of the research seemed to run into
    dead ends, Kirsch reportedly began to clash with the scientists he was
    funding.

    Sponsor Message

    "If the data is is is bad and doesn't make sense and the study was badly >>> done, then I have a right to reject it," said Kirsch. "And so the point
    is that if a study is well done, you'll see that I will like the study." >>>
    Kirsch has a tendency to offer large sums of money to anyone willing to
    debate his assertions.

    "But they won't do that. They won't get into any discussion with me
    because they don't want to answer a single question," Kirsch said.

    Jeffrey Morris has tried to engage with Kirsch for years. In his spare
    time, the professor of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania
    has gone line by line through some of Kirsch's claims, providing
    answers, context and explanations. They once had a long conversation
    over Zoom.

    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump >>> Republicans
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump >>> Republicans
    "And it was an interesting discussion, you know, because he admitted
    that he was not a scientist and didn't think like one. And so I was
    trying to connect with him and help him understand the leaps he was
    making in his arguments to get him to think more carefully. Because I
    could tell he was someone with a lot of energy and passion on the
    issue," said Morris, who has watched Kirsch pull millions of views on
    some of his COVID vaccine content.

    When someone makes a dramatic claim that vaccines are killing millions,
    it's their burden to show the evidence, said Morris, not the other way
    around.

    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research
    Shows
    "They're presuming that they have the entitlement that what they're
    saying can be presumed to be true without them demonstrating rigorously
    that it's true, and that it is the responsibility of society and the
    scientific community to prove them wrong. And if they fail to prove them >>> wrong, or if they don't show up, then they're really offended. And then
    to them, that just proves their guilt. It proves the cover up," he said. >>>
    As government cover ups became a regular talking point for Kirsch, the
    researchers abandoned his early treatment project. Two years and $2
    million later, he's hoping to organize a sustained legal insurgency
    against public health agencies, drug manufacturers, hospitals and schools. >>>
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a
    mouse click
    Attorney Pete Serano traveled from Washington State, where he represents >>> three doctors accused of spreading false statements about COVID-19 and
    said finding a supportive community of lawyers and experts he can call
    for help is "monumental."

    "You know, it really felt like it was me against the world, even though
    there were probably maybe half a dozen to a dozen lawyers in Washington
    fighting. It still feels - it's extremely lonely. It's extremely
    difficult," said Serano.

    Conference organizers asked reporters not to record entire
    presentations. But one thing Serano and other attendees heard again and
    again from speakers: In this room, you're among heroes.

    Sponsor Message

    "There are people who are tremendously intellectually talented and
    gifted in so many ways who are using those talents to fight for your
    rights, to fight for my rights," said Serano.

    Creating a new body of law
    The fights include everything from suing educators who enforced mask
    mandates, to demanding vaccination status be made a protected class,
    like race or sexual orientation. Thousands of lawsuits pushing back
    against public health measures have been filed since the pandemic.

    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital
    UNTANGLING DISINFORMATION
    In Florida, 'health freedom' activists exert influence over a major hospital
    The goal of this conference is to bring lawyers behind these suits
    together, study all that legal spaghetti on the wall and analyze what
    has and hasn't worked. They mean to probe for weak points in the law,
    build a network of experts and plaintiffs, and, they hope, inspire new laws.

    Conference organizers like attorney Warner Mendenhall want to ensure a
    steady supply of lawyers who see opportunity, whether ideologically
    aligned with the anti-vaccine movement or not.

    "I hate to say this but greed is good in this instance," said Mendenhall >>> on a webinar promoting the event. "So if lawyers can see that they can
    get rich, and we're trying to prove that you can - we haven't yet, but
    we will - it'll bring lawyers in simply for the money."

    Fears about vaccines are not new. The current legal structure around
    vaccines is the result of a wave of lawsuits in the 1970s and 80s. It
    tries to balance individual freedom with public health needs, according
    to Anjali Deshmukh, a pediatrician and professor of administrative law
    at Georgia State University.

    "It's not only about protecting us, but it's about protecting our
    community. And that's a different calculus, where it's now within the
    government's interests to make sure that these diseases are not
    spreading," Deshmukh said.

    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID
    telemedicine
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID
    telemedicine
    But the law is not fixed, she added, and well-funded, well-organized
    groups can be a powerful force.

    "And I think like we saw with Roe v Wade, you had a case that was passed >>> 50 years ago and then had various chips away at it until the ground
    crumbled," said Deshmukh.

    The civil rights movement, organized labor and women's rights advocates
    have also relied on a potent mix of court battles and ground campaigns
    to sway public sentiment.

    "The court of public opinion is more important than I think we give
    credit to in both law and medicine. We can have all the science in the
    world, we can have laws that make sense, but laws change. Science is not >>> always convincing when you're coming from a place of fear," said Deshmukh. >>>
    Sponsor Message

    Cases don't even have to succeed in court to have an impact, Deshmukh
    said. Influencers and headlines can frame settlements, technical legal
    outcomes or compelling, emotional testimony as victories for one side or >>> another. She said these lawsuits also come at a time when the Supreme
    Court is weakening the powers of many regulators.

    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
    This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her
    Medical License
    With the COVID national emergency order set to end, keeping
    COVID-related grievances alive in the courts may also help sustain the
    larger movement against vaccines.

    Serano, the lawyer from Washington State, says the kinds of cases that
    brought him here may become the bulk of his work for years.

    "I plan on being that 80 year old guy talking about what it was like in
    the 2020s and COVID 19 and telling some young whippersnapper lawyer
    about how we did it back when," he said.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use
    Apostle Paul's secret (http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ). Though masking
    is less protective, it helps us avoid the appearance of doing the evil
    of spreading airborne pathogens while there are people getting sick
    because of not being 100% protected. It is written that we're to
    "abstain from **all** appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22
    w/**emphasis**).

    Source:
    https://biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/5-22.htm

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    http://WDJW.great-site.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to
    call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of
    stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the best while
    preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations
    and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu &
    Delta lineage mutations combining via slip-RNA-replication to form
    hybrids like http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current
    COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to
    http://WDJW.great-site.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all glory (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Suggested further reading: https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ

    Shorter link:
    http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test

    Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
    diabetics and other heart disease patients:

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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