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    From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Nov 27 21:40:14 2022
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://archive.ph/Vd5na


    UK experts helped shut down Covid lab leak theory - weeks after being
    told it might be true
    Sir Patrick Vallance among scientists behind paper that stifled debate
    into the origins of the virus
    By
    Sarah Knapton,
    SCIENCE EDITOR and
    Ashley Rindsberg
    23 November 2022 • 9:10pm
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic CREDIT: George Cracknell >Wright/LNP/London News Pictures Ltd
    Top scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance were warned that Covid-19
    could have evolved in laboratory animals, but collaborated in a paper
    which shut down the lab leak theory, it has emerged.
    The paper, “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2,” published in Nature
    Medicine in March 2020, argued that a natural spillover event caused the >pandemic, and was hugely instrumental in stifling debate into the
    origins of the virus.
    But newly released emails from early 2020 show that in the weeks before >publication the authors held lengthy discussions with experts, including
    Sir Patrick and Sir Jeremy Farrar, the head of the Wellcome Trust.
    In those discussions, experts were advised that the unusual features
    seen in Covid-19 could have evolved in animals in a lab, as well as in
    the wild.
    They were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of >biosecurity.
    Yet by the time the paper was published, all reference to biosecurity >problems in Wuhan had been removed, and the authors argued that lab
    evolution of the virus was unlikely.
    Questions have arisen around the drafting and formulation of the paper
    since its publication.
    The lead author of the paper, Prof Kristian Andersen, of the Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, had earlier told colleagues
    that features of the virus looked as if they’d been engineered in a lab. >However, no mention of this was made in the paper.
    'Important to stay open-minded'
    Commenting on the new emails, which were released under Freedom of >Information request, Dr Jeremy Farrar, the director of Wellcome, said:
    "It is important that we understand how all pathogens emerge so that we
    can prevent future pandemics.
    “In my view, the scientific evidence continues to point to SARS-CoV-2 >crossing from animals to humans as the most likely scenario.
    “However, as the efforts to gather evidence continue, it is important to
    stay open-minded and work together internationally to understand the >emergence of Covid and variant strains – to end this pandemic and reduce
    the risks of future events.”
    A Government Office for Science spokesperson said: “The Government Chief >Scientific Adviser ensures that policies and decisions are informed by
    the best scientific evidence.
    “The GCSA promotes full transparency and an open exchange of ideas and >scientific opinion as the email exchange reflects.”
    The emails were released following an FOI request from James Tobias, a >freelance journalist.
    More reason to believe scientists were trying not to upset China
    In March 2020, just days before Britain entered its first Covid
    lockdown, an influential scientific paper was published in the journal
    Nature Medicine.
    The paper, entitled "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" argued that the
    new deadly virus sweeping the globe was of natural origin, having jumped
    from animals to humans.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat >coronaviruses, leading to widespread speculation that a deadly
    experiment could have leaked from a lab.
    Yet after the research paper was published, serious probing into the lab >theory effectively stopped.
    Now new emails show that some of the authors had indeed suspected a >laboratory leak, and had discussed it in the weeks before publication
    with leading scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance and Sir Jeremy
    Farrar.
    In an email chain debating the original draft, one of the authors even >admitted that the virus would look the same whether it had evolved
    naturally or in lab mice in a process known as "serial passaging".
    In an email on February 8 2020, Dr Robert Garry, from the University of >Sydney, pointed out that similar effects had been seen when bird flu had
    been passaged in laboratory chickens.
    Yet by the time the paper was published the authors dismissed the >possibility, concluding: “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is
    not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus”.
    One of the reasons the authors gave in the paper for dropping the lab
    theory was that the Covid-19 contained sugars known as "o-glycans" which
    help the immune system.
    In the Nature Medicine paper they said it showed that the virus could
    not have been a lab creation.
    However they failed to point out that if the virus had evolved in lab
    animals it would also contain o-glycans, a fact they had discussed in
    the emails.
    In fact, in the emails Sir Patrick said that the "glycan point" could be
    used in the paper as "further weight against a passage origin".
    The original draft also pointed out that research to alter Sars-like bat >coronaviruses had been taking place for many years in Wuhan at dangerous >biosecurity levels - a fact that was later removed from the finished paper. >In one email exchange, Sir Jeremy even warned that research in Wuhan was
    like the "Wild West".
    The email release will add more fuel to accusations that eminent
    scientists effectively publicly shut down investigations into a lab leak
    so as not to upset China, while believing privately it was possible.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses CREDIT: ROMAN PILIPEY/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock
    In the newly released email chain, Prof Ron Fouchier, a Dutch
    neurologist, warned that even investigating a lab leak could harm
    Chinese research.
    “An accusation that (Covid-19) might have been engineered and released
    into the environment by humans (accidental or intentional) would need to
    be supported by strong data, beyond reasonable doubt,” he warned.
    “It is good that this possibility was discussed in detail with a team of >experts. However, further debate about such accusations would
    unnecessarily distract top researchers from active duties and do
    unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular.” >Many scientists now agree that a lab leak is highly plausible, but most
    of the supporting evidence was found by hackers and rogue scientists who
    were branded conspiracy theorists for challenging the accepted narrative.
    The latest email release shows that scientists who dismissed a lab leak >accepted it was possible behind closed doors.
    In an email on February 8 Prof Edward Holmes, one of the authors of the >Nature Medicine paper, from the University of Sydney, acknowledged that
    many people believed the virus had leaked from the Wuhan lab.
    He wrote: “Ever since this outbreak started there have been suggestions
    that the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab, if only because of the
    coincidence of where the outbreak occurred and the location of the lab.
    “I do a lot of work in China and I can tell you a lot of people there
    believe this and believe they are being lied to.”
    Another on the same date from Prof Kristian Andersen, of Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, said it would be wrong to
    dismiss a lab leak "out of hand".
    He wrote: “Passage of Sars-live coronaviruses have been going on for
    several years and more specifically in Wuhan under BSL-2 conditions.”
    BSL-2 laboratories are used to study moderate-risk infectious agents or >toxins such as salmonella. Serious diseases should be handled in BSL-3
    or 4 labs.
    Evidence has shown that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was
    importing bat coronaviruses from areas of China which hold the closest >viruses to Covid-19.
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of >biosecurity
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of >biosecurity CREDIT: Barcroft Media/Getty Images Contributor
    The institute had also applied for funding to manipulate viruses by
    inserting a furin cleavage site (FCS) which is what makes Covid-19 so >infectious in humans.
    A recent report by the US Senate Committee concluded that the Covid-19 >pandemic was "more likely than not" the result of a laboratory accident, >arguing that no candidate for an animal spillover had ever been found.
    In the emails, Sir Jeremy said the purpose of discussions was to come to
    a consensus view and "lay down a respected statement to frame whatever
    debate goes on, before that debate gets out of hand with potentially
    hugely damaging ramifications."
    The results of the study were considered so perilous that it led the US >government to put a moratorium on research to enhance the lethality of >viruses.
    The email chain also involved Anthony Fauci, the director of the
    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), an >organisation which was funding research at the Wuhan lab.
    To date the "Proximal origin" paper has been accessed more than 5.7
    million times and cited in 2,627 subsequent papers.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
    mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?









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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Sun Nov 27 18:07:26 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://archive.ph/Vd5na


    UK experts helped shut down Covid lab leak theory - weeks after being
    told it might be true
    Sir Patrick Vallance among scientists behind paper that stifled debate
    into the origins of the virus
    By
    Sarah Knapton,
    SCIENCE EDITOR and
    Ashley Rindsberg
    23 November 2022 • 9:10pm
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic CREDIT: George Cracknell
    Wright/LNP/London News Pictures Ltd
    Top scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance were warned that Covid-19
    could have evolved in laboratory animals, but collaborated in a paper
    which shut down the lab leak theory, it has emerged.
    The paper, “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2,” published in Nature
    Medicine in March 2020, argued that a natural spillover event caused the
    pandemic, and was hugely instrumental in stifling debate into the
    origins of the virus.
    But newly released emails from early 2020 show that in the weeks before
    publication the authors held lengthy discussions with experts, including
    Sir Patrick and Sir Jeremy Farrar, the head of the Wellcome Trust.
    In those discussions, experts were advised that the unusual features
    seen in Covid-19 could have evolved in animals in a lab, as well as in
    the wild.
    They were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity.
    Yet by the time the paper was published, all reference to biosecurity
    problems in Wuhan had been removed, and the authors argued that lab
    evolution of the virus was unlikely.
    Questions have arisen around the drafting and formulation of the paper
    since its publication.
    The lead author of the paper, Prof Kristian Andersen, of the Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, had earlier told colleagues
    that features of the virus looked as if they’d been engineered in a lab. >> However, no mention of this was made in the paper.
    'Important to stay open-minded'
    Commenting on the new emails, which were released under Freedom of
    Information request, Dr Jeremy Farrar, the director of Wellcome, said:
    "It is important that we understand how all pathogens emerge so that we
    can prevent future pandemics.
    “In my view, the scientific evidence continues to point to SARS-CoV-2
    crossing from animals to humans as the most likely scenario.
    “However, as the efforts to gather evidence continue, it is important to >> stay open-minded and work together internationally to understand the
    emergence of Covid and variant strains – to end this pandemic and reduce >> the risks of future events.”
    A Government Office for Science spokesperson said: “The Government Chief >> Scientific Adviser ensures that policies and decisions are informed by
    the best scientific evidence.
    “The GCSA promotes full transparency and an open exchange of ideas and
    scientific opinion as the email exchange reflects.”
    The emails were released following an FOI request from James Tobias, a
    freelance journalist.
    More reason to believe scientists were trying not to upset China
    In March 2020, just days before Britain entered its first Covid
    lockdown, an influential scientific paper was published in the journal
    Nature Medicine.
    The paper, entitled "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" argued that the
    new deadly virus sweeping the globe was of natural origin, having jumped >>from animals to humans.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses, leading to widespread speculation that a deadly
    experiment could have leaked from a lab.
    Yet after the research paper was published, serious probing into the lab
    theory effectively stopped.
    Now new emails show that some of the authors had indeed suspected a
    laboratory leak, and had discussed it in the weeks before publication
    with leading scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance and Sir Jeremy
    Farrar.
    In an email chain debating the original draft, one of the authors even
    admitted that the virus would look the same whether it had evolved
    naturally or in lab mice in a process known as "serial passaging".
    In an email on February 8 2020, Dr Robert Garry, from the University of
    Sydney, pointed out that similar effects had been seen when bird flu had
    been passaged in laboratory chickens.
    Yet by the time the paper was published the authors dismissed the
    possibility, concluding: “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is
    not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus”.
    One of the reasons the authors gave in the paper for dropping the lab
    theory was that the Covid-19 contained sugars known as "o-glycans" which
    help the immune system.
    In the Nature Medicine paper they said it showed that the virus could
    not have been a lab creation.
    However they failed to point out that if the virus had evolved in lab
    animals it would also contain o-glycans, a fact they had discussed in
    the emails.
    In fact, in the emails Sir Patrick said that the "glycan point" could be
    used in the paper as "further weight against a passage origin".
    The original draft also pointed out that research to alter Sars-like bat
    coronaviruses had been taking place for many years in Wuhan at dangerous
    biosecurity levels - a fact that was later removed from the finished paper. >> In one email exchange, Sir Jeremy even warned that research in Wuhan was
    like the "Wild West".
    The email release will add more fuel to accusations that eminent
    scientists effectively publicly shut down investigations into a lab leak
    so as not to upset China, while believing privately it was possible.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses CREDIT: ROMAN PILIPEY/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock
    In the newly released email chain, Prof Ron Fouchier, a Dutch
    neurologist, warned that even investigating a lab leak could harm
    Chinese research.
    “An accusation that (Covid-19) might have been engineered and released
    into the environment by humans (accidental or intentional) would need to
    be supported by strong data, beyond reasonable doubt,” he warned.
    “It is good that this possibility was discussed in detail with a team of >> experts. However, further debate about such accusations would
    unnecessarily distract top researchers from active duties and do
    unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular.”
    Many scientists now agree that a lab leak is highly plausible, but most
    of the supporting evidence was found by hackers and rogue scientists who
    were branded conspiracy theorists for challenging the accepted narrative.
    The latest email release shows that scientists who dismissed a lab leak
    accepted it was possible behind closed doors.
    In an email on February 8 Prof Edward Holmes, one of the authors of the
    Nature Medicine paper, from the University of Sydney, acknowledged that
    many people believed the virus had leaked from the Wuhan lab.
    He wrote: “Ever since this outbreak started there have been suggestions
    that the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab, if only because of the
    coincidence of where the outbreak occurred and the location of the lab.
    “I do a lot of work in China and I can tell you a lot of people there
    believe this and believe they are being lied to.”
    Another on the same date from Prof Kristian Andersen, of Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, said it would be wrong to
    dismiss a lab leak "out of hand".
    He wrote: “Passage of Sars-live coronaviruses have been going on for
    several years and more specifically in Wuhan under BSL-2 conditions.”
    BSL-2 laboratories are used to study moderate-risk infectious agents or
    toxins such as salmonella. Serious diseases should be handled in BSL-3
    or 4 labs.
    Evidence has shown that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was
    importing bat coronaviruses from areas of China which hold the closest
    viruses to Covid-19.
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity CREDIT: Barcroft Media/Getty Images Contributor
    The institute had also applied for funding to manipulate viruses by
    inserting a furin cleavage site (FCS) which is what makes Covid-19 so
    infectious in humans.
    A recent report by the US Senate Committee concluded that the Covid-19
    pandemic was "more likely than not" the result of a laboratory accident,
    arguing that no candidate for an animal spillover had ever been found.
    In the emails, Sir Jeremy said the purpose of discussions was to come to
    a consensus view and "lay down a respected statement to frame whatever
    debate goes on, before that debate gets out of hand with potentially
    hugely damaging ramifications."
    The results of the study were considered so perilous that it led the US
    government to put a moratorium on research to enhance the lethality of
    viruses.
    The email chain also involved Anthony Fauci, the director of the
    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), an
    organisation which was funding research at the Wuhan lab.
    To date the "Proximal origin" paper has been accessed more than 5.7
    million times and cited in 2,627 subsequent papers.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Nov 27 21:38:25 2022
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://archive.ph/Vd5na


    UK experts helped shut down Covid lab leak theory - weeks after being
    told it might be true
    Sir Patrick Vallance among scientists behind paper that stifled debate
    into the origins of the virus
    By
    Sarah Knapton,
    SCIENCE EDITOR and
    Ashley Rindsberg
    23 November 2022 • 9:10pm
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic
    Sir Patrick Vallance helped publish a paper arguing that a natural
    spillover event caused the pandemic CREDIT: George Cracknell
    Wright/LNP/London News Pictures Ltd
    Top scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance were warned that Covid-19
    could have evolved in laboratory animals, but collaborated in a paper
    which shut down the lab leak theory, it has emerged.
    The paper, “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2,” published in Nature
    Medicine in March 2020, argued that a natural spillover event caused the >>> pandemic, and was hugely instrumental in stifling debate into the
    origins of the virus.
    But newly released emails from early 2020 show that in the weeks before
    publication the authors held lengthy discussions with experts, including >>> Sir Patrick and Sir Jeremy Farrar, the head of the Wellcome Trust.
    In those discussions, experts were advised that the unusual features
    seen in Covid-19 could have evolved in animals in a lab, as well as in
    the wild.
    They were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity.
    Yet by the time the paper was published, all reference to biosecurity
    problems in Wuhan had been removed, and the authors argued that lab
    evolution of the virus was unlikely.
    Questions have arisen around the drafting and formulation of the paper
    since its publication.
    The lead author of the paper, Prof Kristian Andersen, of the Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, had earlier told colleagues
    that features of the virus looked as if they’d been engineered in a lab. >>> However, no mention of this was made in the paper.
    'Important to stay open-minded'
    Commenting on the new emails, which were released under Freedom of
    Information request, Dr Jeremy Farrar, the director of Wellcome, said:
    "It is important that we understand how all pathogens emerge so that we
    can prevent future pandemics.
    “In my view, the scientific evidence continues to point to SARS-CoV-2
    crossing from animals to humans as the most likely scenario.
    “However, as the efforts to gather evidence continue, it is important to >>> stay open-minded and work together internationally to understand the
    emergence of Covid and variant strains – to end this pandemic and reduce >>> the risks of future events.”
    A Government Office for Science spokesperson said: “The Government Chief >>> Scientific Adviser ensures that policies and decisions are informed by
    the best scientific evidence.
    “The GCSA promotes full transparency and an open exchange of ideas and
    scientific opinion as the email exchange reflects.”
    The emails were released following an FOI request from James Tobias, a
    freelance journalist.
    More reason to believe scientists were trying not to upset China
    In March 2020, just days before Britain entered its first Covid
    lockdown, an influential scientific paper was published in the journal
    Nature Medicine.
    The paper, entitled "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" argued that the
    new deadly virus sweeping the globe was of natural origin, having jumped >>>from animals to humans.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses, leading to widespread speculation that a deadly
    experiment could have leaked from a lab.
    Yet after the research paper was published, serious probing into the lab >>> theory effectively stopped.
    Now new emails show that some of the authors had indeed suspected a
    laboratory leak, and had discussed it in the weeks before publication
    with leading scientists including Sir Patrick Vallance and Sir Jeremy
    Farrar.
    In an email chain debating the original draft, one of the authors even
    admitted that the virus would look the same whether it had evolved
    naturally or in lab mice in a process known as "serial passaging".
    In an email on February 8 2020, Dr Robert Garry, from the University of
    Sydney, pointed out that similar effects had been seen when bird flu had >>> been passaged in laboratory chickens.
    Yet by the time the paper was published the authors dismissed the
    possibility, concluding: “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is
    not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus”.
    One of the reasons the authors gave in the paper for dropping the lab
    theory was that the Covid-19 contained sugars known as "o-glycans" which >>> help the immune system.
    In the Nature Medicine paper they said it showed that the virus could
    not have been a lab creation.
    However they failed to point out that if the virus had evolved in lab
    animals it would also contain o-glycans, a fact they had discussed in
    the emails.
    In fact, in the emails Sir Patrick said that the "glycan point" could be >>> used in the paper as "further weight against a passage origin".
    The original draft also pointed out that research to alter Sars-like bat >>> coronaviruses had been taking place for many years in Wuhan at dangerous >>> biosecurity levels - a fact that was later removed from the finished paper. >>> In one email exchange, Sir Jeremy even warned that research in Wuhan was >>> like the "Wild West".
    The email release will add more fuel to accusations that eminent
    scientists effectively publicly shut down investigations into a lab leak >>> so as not to upset China, while believing privately it was possible.
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses
    Covid had emerged just a few miles from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    (WIV) where scientists had been collecting and manipulating bat
    coronaviruses CREDIT: ROMAN PILIPEY/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock
    In the newly released email chain, Prof Ron Fouchier, a Dutch
    neurologist, warned that even investigating a lab leak could harm
    Chinese research.
    “An accusation that (Covid-19) might have been engineered and released
    into the environment by humans (accidental or intentional) would need to >>> be supported by strong data, beyond reasonable doubt,” he warned.
    “It is good that this possibility was discussed in detail with a team of >>> experts. However, further debate about such accusations would
    unnecessarily distract top researchers from active duties and do
    unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular.” >>> Many scientists now agree that a lab leak is highly plausible, but most
    of the supporting evidence was found by hackers and rogue scientists who >>> were branded conspiracy theorists for challenging the accepted narrative. >>> The latest email release shows that scientists who dismissed a lab leak
    accepted it was possible behind closed doors.
    In an email on February 8 Prof Edward Holmes, one of the authors of the
    Nature Medicine paper, from the University of Sydney, acknowledged that
    many people believed the virus had leaked from the Wuhan lab.
    He wrote: “Ever since this outbreak started there have been suggestions
    that the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab, if only because of the
    coincidence of where the outbreak occurred and the location of the lab.
    “I do a lot of work in China and I can tell you a lot of people there
    believe this and believe they are being lied to.”
    Another on the same date from Prof Kristian Andersen, of Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California, said it would be wrong to
    dismiss a lab leak "out of hand".
    He wrote: “Passage of Sars-live coronaviruses have been going on for
    several years and more specifically in Wuhan under BSL-2 conditions.”
    BSL-2 laboratories are used to study moderate-risk infectious agents or
    toxins such as salmonella. Serious diseases should be handled in BSL-3
    or 4 labs.
    Evidence has shown that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was
    importing bat coronaviruses from areas of China which hold the closest
    viruses to Covid-19.
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity
    Experts were also warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had
    been carrying out research on bat-coronaviruses at worrying levels of
    biosecurity CREDIT: Barcroft Media/Getty Images Contributor
    The institute had also applied for funding to manipulate viruses by
    inserting a furin cleavage site (FCS) which is what makes Covid-19 so
    infectious in humans.
    A recent report by the US Senate Committee concluded that the Covid-19
    pandemic was "more likely than not" the result of a laboratory accident, >>> arguing that no candidate for an animal spillover had ever been found.
    In the emails, Sir Jeremy said the purpose of discussions was to come to >>> a consensus view and "lay down a respected statement to frame whatever
    debate goes on, before that debate gets out of hand with potentially
    hugely damaging ramifications."
    The results of the study were considered so perilous that it led the US
    government to put a moratorium on research to enhance the lethality of
    viruses.
    The email chain also involved Anthony Fauci, the director of the
    National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), an
    organisation which was funding research at the Wuhan lab.
    To date the "Proximal origin" paper has been accessed more than 5.7
    million times and cited in 2,627 subsequent papers.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
    mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID
    vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward
    (John 15:12 as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all
    glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba,
    DEO), in the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Suggested further reading: https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ

    Shorter link:
    http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test

    Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
    diabetics and other heart disease patients:

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 28 09:37:01 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 11/28/22 PeeleRevd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 28 12:52:28 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 11/28/22 TheRevd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 13:48:49 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 11/29/22 TheRevd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 5 08:42:48 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 12/05/22 TheRevd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 5 09:22:56 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 12/05/22 Roman/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 5 09:31:33 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 12/05/22 ThePeel/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 09:50:16 2022
    XPost: uk.legal, uk.politics.misc, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Sarah) 12/06/22 Real/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among
    these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the
    stomach of
    the wicked is in need.



    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good
    things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
    truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
    our sins,
    and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
    his
    word is
    not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    (
    http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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