• (Amelia) Greeting MichaelE on 10/05/22 ...

    From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Wed Oct 5 00:06:04 2022
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/we-gave-up-so-much-how-covid-changed-young-peoples-lives


    We gave up so much: how Covid changed young peoples lives
    Clockwise from top left: Eoin OLoughlin, Zubaydah Abdi, Jess Paine and
    Eva Yacobi Composite: Guardian Design
    Young people across the UK reflect on how the pandemic affected them
    and continues to shape their futures

    Covid has left a third of young people feeling life is out of control
    study
    by Amelia Hill
    Mon 3 Oct 2022 01.00 EDT
    In the next phase of the Guardians Covid Generation series, young
    people across the UK reflect on how the Covid pandemic changed their
    lives and continues to have an effect on their futures.

    Marcel Charowski is 12 and lives in London with his parents and sister.
    He is in his first year of secondary school

    Marcel Charowski
    Marcel Charowski: I feel old before my time. Photograph: Mark
    Pinder/The Guardian
    The pandemic definitely changed me. I was a carefree child before it
    hit. Now Im quite scared and negative. I feel old before my time. One
    of the worst things about Covid was not being able to visit my
    grandparents in Poland. I could see them getting older over Zoom and I
    was scared they would die before I could visit them again.

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    I also had the last year of primary school taken away from me. I didnt
    have a chance to say goodbye to anyone or have a school leavers party.
    Then I lost those friends for good over lockdown. We tried to stay in
    touch online but we ran out of things to say and drifted away from each >other.

    It makes me sad that I wont have any friends in my future from primary >school. Its also made me think about how people you think of as for
    ever friends can just drift away. I think thats why Ive found it hard
    to make new friends at secondary school.

    My dad nearly died thanks to Covid. My mum spent a lot of time at the >hospital with him for seven months and I had to wait at home, worried
    every day that she would come home and tell me hed died. I was
    frightened all of that time. Its probably why I worry a lot about death
    now. Death is always waiting for you. I worry that Covid will come back
    in a worse variant or we may get another plague. Weve already had
    monkeypox.

    Lockdown was very lonely for me. I was pretty much on my own, in front
    of a computer, doing home learning which was incredibly hard because
    you cant ask for help in the same way: youre told what to do, then you
    log off and have to do the work on your own.

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    I would say that before Covid, I used to be worry-free but now I dont
    really care about anything. I dont get excited about anything.

    Eva Yacobi is 14 and lives in the south of England. She had just started >secondary school when lockdown began

    Before Covid, I wanted to be a singer. Now I realise theres nothing
    stopping me from being an entrepreneur, starting my own business or
    being a CEO of a big company.

    It was all because of lockdown: I would never have started thinking like
    this otherwise. Home learning was so boring I was so over sitting in
    front of my computer, doing endless worksheets and online lessons. I
    started making jewellery just for fun and then it occurred to me that I
    could start a business, sell what Id made and give the profits to charity.

    young-covid-5
    Generation Z and the Covid pandemic: 'Im 100% more politicised'
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    It was so amazing. Id been quite lonely Id got to the stage where I >barely talked to my friends online because wed run out of stuff to say
    to each other but when I started selling my jewellery I was having >conversations with people from all over who wanted to buy what Id made.
    That really opened my horizons back up. It felt amazing.

    It was also really cool to realise that all that stuff that seemed so >complicated really wasnt: it wasnt such a big deal to make a website, >advertise across different social media sites. I realised I was much
    more capable than Id thought.

    Lockdown was also nice in that I got a lot closer to my family and, in >particular, my younger brother. He and I spent a lot of time together,
    making art and talking for hours.

    Lockdown wasnt great though in the way I became totally dependent on
    screens though. I once spent three whole days watching Netflix during >lockdown: I was completely obsessed. That feeling hasnt really gone
    away: screens were everything to me for two years and remain a much
    bigger part of my life now lockdown has ended than they would have been
    if it had never happened. Its not healthy but its how it is. I think
    my generation gave up a lot more than other generations over lockdown
    because these are such important years for us, where we find change
    hard. Our schools are putting a lot of effort into helping us transition
    back into real life but I dont think politicians have really done enough.

    Zubaydah Abdi is 19 and lives in Tottenham with her parents a cab
    driver and special needs teacher and her five siblings. She has just >started studying medicine at Kings College London

    Zubaydah Abdi
    Zubaydah Abdi: I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling hopeless and >angsty. Photograph: Christian Sinibaldi/The Guardian
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    The years between 16 and 18 are a blur to me: I feel as if Im a
    16-year-old stuck within a 19-year-olds body without the experiences or >skills to fulfil their responsibilities.

    This does make me sad: the years Ive missed are important ones youre >supposed to have all sorts of experiences to form the adult you become.
    But my life during those key years had no substance to it: it was just
    school and home. I worry how that time lost and time wasted will come
    back to haunt me in later life.

    The pandemic also had an impact on me emotionally. We had relatives who
    died and that, combined with all the other awful things that went on
    over those two years, it led to me becoming fairly desensitised. Instead
    of opening my gaze out to the wide world and thinking about my place in
    it, I focused in on myself. I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling >hopeless and angsty.

    When I got my teacher-assessed A-level grades, I didnt know what to
    think. In all honesty, the grades I was given 4 A*s were probably
    better than I would have got had I done the exams. Thats given me a
    strong sense of impostor syndrome for university: Im not going to feel
    that Im qualified to be where I am and thats going to be destabilising.

    I opted to take a gap year so I could try to make up for all those lost >experiences. I saved money by working in retail, which forced me to be
    out and about after so long being locked away. I then volunteered at a >hospital in Tanzania, which helped confirm for me that medicine was what
    I wanted to do with my life. I also made friends from around the world
    to make up for those I lost during the pandemic.

    All this helped resensitise me it helped me open my gaze back up
    again, to burst the bubble Id been living in and bringing me back to
    real life.

    It also helped me channel the anger Id built up over the pandemic. I >realised that I could help people through medicine. I think before
    Covid, I would have used my medical degree to do research but now I want
    to use it to go out into the world and make it a better place. In that
    way, you could say that Covid been a good thing: it has focused my
    political and campaigning zeal.

    Lily Smith is 19 and comes from Manchester. She is in her second year of >studying musical theatre at Anglia Ruskin University

    Lily Smith
    Lily Smith: Being given the time to make the decision to jump from
    science to the arts essentially saved my life. Photograph: Sophia
    Evans/The Observer
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    I feel guilty saying this but the pandemic was, for me, a brilliant
    thing: it changed my life and Ill always be grateful.

    I was doing A-levels when Covid hit and intended to study sciences at >university. I was already finding my courses hard but it got much worse >during lockdown: it became impossible to get the support I needed. I
    quickly began feeling hopeless and overwhelmed. It was a really bleak
    time. My friends had been the only thing that had helped me when Id
    been feeling stressed before Covid and when they were taken away from me
    by lockdown, it all crashed down.

    I managed to get online counselling in May 2020 but after a while, the >enforced isolation began to have a different effect: I realised that it
    was nice to be on my own in this almost womb-like environment where I
    didnt need to be anything for anybody. I had stepped off the conveyor
    belt of school, expectation and achievement.

    What I realised was that Id been pushing myself towards this career in >science because thats what everyone told me I should do but it wasnt
    who I actually was.

    I found myself playing the piano more and suddenly I realised that I
    could choose to make myself happier and the way to do that was to do >something in the arts. Then it hit me: I was going to be a stage actor.
    My piano teacher recommended an amazing singing teacher who helped me
    work on auditions for universities.

    I am so happy now. If the pandemic hadnt happened, I doubt I would have
    got the A-levels I needed to do science at university and that would
    have been so devastating that I honestly dont know if I would still be
    here today.

    Being given the time to make the decision to jump from science to the
    arts essentially saved my life. Without the pandemic, theres no way
    that would have been possible.

    Eoin OLoughlin, 20, moved from Dublin to Dundee during the pandemic to
    study at the Scottish School for Contemporary Dance

    Eoin OLoughlin
    Eoin OLoughlin: The pandemic stunted me at the exact moment I was
    ready to burst out creatively and socially. Photograph: Murdo
    MacLeod/The Guardian
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    I think my generation gave up a lot during the pandemic for older people >because it hit at such a key, developmental time for us. We were happy
    to do it at the time but problems have come since because the government >hasnt acknowledged what we sacrificed. Some recognition and some
    recompense would help, in terms of support for the issues around
    careers, education, mental health, physical health that my generation >suffered and still suffers as a direct result of pandemic policies
    introduced to protect the older generation.

    The sad thing is that we gave so much up because we had a sense of
    community. But because theres been no recognition of what we gave up or
    any attempt to recompense us, I think that sense of community has been
    burnt out of us. Im not sure that my generation would be as happy or
    willing to sacrifice ourselves for other people a second time. I think
    we all feel our goodwill was taken advantage of.

    The pandemic was dreadful for me. It stunted me at the exact moment I
    was ready to burst out creatively and socially, and start exploring and >making my mark on the world. The pandemic meant that I had to adapt from >being a child to an adult with no transition period I missed my
    secondary school exams and graduation, along with my 18th and 19th
    birthdays. I then missed my first year of college in Dundee and doing
    a dance degree at home, in front of a laptop screen is no fun at all.

    I feel lve lost my younger self in the pandemic. Ive lost that
    youthful exuberance and joyfulness I once had. I feel like an old man:
    even though lockdown is over, I just want to stay in now read a book
    and drink some tea.

    Because of the pandemic, however, I met the love of my life and am now >happier than Ive ever been. If you take Jack into account, all the pain
    of the pandemic was definitely worth it. But I wish I hadnt had to go >through that to meet him.

    Michael Nesi-Pio, 20, was in his final year of A-levels when Covid hit

    Michael Nesi-Pio
    Michael Nesi-Pio: Its only when you experience something bad that you >realise what makes you happy and whats important. Photograph: Joel >Goodman/The Guardian
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    I had planned to take a year out after A-levels to grow up a bit, travel
    and decide what I wanted to do at university and in life. But when Covid
    hit, I panicked and grabbed at the first degree course recommended to me
    by my teachers, which was chemistry.

    I wasnt able to take my exams and my teacher-assessed grades were
    crazily lower than my predictions, so I didnt get my place at
    Manchester. I panicked again and snatched the first alternative course I >could find, which was in Sheffield. I didnt really want to do that
    course and I didnt want to go to that university but with the world >exploding, I didnt feel I had any choices.

    It was a disaster. In retrospect, I think I became seriously depressed.
    I was so lonely and miserable in lockdown in Sheffield. I spent all day
    in my room in the dark.

    My girlfriend eventually persuaded me to stop pretending everything was
    OK and drop out. I left in March 2021 with a 11k debt. I reapplied to >Manchester and got in to study politics and philosophy.

    Im not angry about the time I lost, the debt and the traumatic time I
    had though. I think what I went through was good because its only when
    you experience something bad that you realise what makes you happy and
    whats important.

    The past year has added to my character. Im more resilient, more
    determined. I now prioritise my mental health and my own happiness.

    My generation is in a difficult position now because older generations
    judge us and have expectations of us aligned to our chronological age.
    But we lost our formative years and havent had the life experiences
    that you need to grow up. Were not given any leeway to reflect that.

    I also get angry because I think my generation sacrificed more than
    other generations over Covid. I get angry at the experiences we missed.
    I get angry that weve never been given credit for what we sacrificed
    for others.

    Kate Nichols, 20, is from Newcastle upon Tyne and is in her final year
    at Cardiff University

    I got Covid on 21 December 2021 and, 10 months later, have still not >recovered. Last week, I finally got my referral to a chronic fatigue
    syndrome clinic, which Im hoping will help.

    Christmas with Covid was really sad. We had to cancel my grandparents
    coming round, so they were on their own with no time to arrange their
    own alternative Christmas. I stayed in my bedroom: my Christmas dinner
    was left outside my door. After Id finished, I had to wipe my plate,
    glass and cutlery with antiseptic wipes before my parents could collect
    it. It was lonely and grim.

    Evidence grows of lockdown harm to the young. But we act as if nothing >happened
    Martha Gill
    Martha Gill
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    I had Covid for a week and felt bad but after it went, I started getting >endless infections: I had tonsillitis seven times, endless recurrent
    chest infections, breathing problems, brain fog and was constantly
    exhausted. I was taking so many antibiotics that I was quite scared: at
    one point, I was taking eight tablets a day and they still werent
    working, so the doctors had to give me stronger ones.

    I still have problems with tiredness, brain fog and breathing theres
    a crackling in my lungs thats pretty scary and if I go out with
    friends in the evenings, Im destroyed for the next few days: my
    tonsillitis will come back, probably a chest infection and Ill have
    days of really severe brain fog.

    Its frustrating so much of student life revolves around the nightlife
    but I cant risk getting behind in my studies, which Ive worked hard
    to keep up with despite my long Covid.

    On the upside, not being able to go out in the evening means I now see
    my friends during the day and we talk a lot more. Id say Im closer to
    my friends as a result of this change of socialising style, and thats a >positive: I sat in a coffee shop for three hours the other day with a
    friend, just talking. Im also far more health-conscious than I was
    before getting long Covid. I always went to the gym but now Im >super-conscious of what I eat, drink and I make sure I get as much
    exercise as I can manage.

    I suppose thats a positive too but in truth, this long Covid is really
    hard, frustrating and sad: these are supposed to be my carefree, healthy >years.

    Eliza Niblett, from Leicestershire, is 20 and has just started her third
    year studying experimental psychology at Oxford University

    Eliza Niblett: The stress of feeling Im constantly on thin ice is >exhausting.
    Eliza Niblett: The stress of feeling Im constantly on thin ice is >exhausting. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian
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    One of the saddest impacts of the pandemic is that I still havent had
    my first kiss. Ive never even been on a date. Im a lesbian and at
    school that was really difficult. I thought it would become easier when
    I got to university but it didnt happen because of Covid and now it
    seems like a big, scary thing instead of an exciting, natural step.

    Even though university is finally back on track after a really difficult >first year, I missed so much because of the pandemic that I dont feel
    ready to be where I am. I spent my second year at uni playing catch-up,
    both academically and socially, but Im still getting used to the idea
    of interacting with people: Ive never gone out and got drunk; Ive
    never been in a nightclub or done a pub crawl. I wanted to do that sort
    of thing when I first got to university but now the moment has passed
    and it just seems really scary to go out and lose control.

    Covid mucked up lots of other things for me that Im still affected by.
    I was given A-level grades based on an algorithm that the government
    later admitted disadvantaged state-school students like me. That
    algorithm downgraded the grades my teachers had estimated for me, which
    meant I lost my place at Oxford.

    It was devastating and I decided to get the government to change their
    minds. I organised an open letter to the education secretary using >testimonies from people who had also been affected. I spoke on local
    radio and TV, and lots of people sent messages of support.

    Eventually, the government announced the grading U-turn and Oxford
    reinstated my place. But it didnt undo how traumatising it had all
    been: two years on and I still constantly question what it was about me
    that made my tutors decide that I was the one they would reject when
    others who had been downgraded were still given places. The stress of
    feeling Im constantly on thin ice is exhausting.

    Thanks to the pandemic, I barely interacted with anyone for my entire
    first year at university. I tried to focus on work and not lament how
    rubbish my hard-won Oxford experience was turning out to be but it was
    hard to ignore it. There was just this emptiness and nothingness where
    there should have been excitement and inspiration.

    Ella Thornton, 20, gave up her place at Cambridge University in 2021
    after a year. She is now at the University of East Anglia studying education

    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home.
    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home. Photograph: Joshua >Bright/The Guardian
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    The pandemic completely transformed my life for the better but it was an >incredibly painful journey. The first thing Covid did was to stop me
    from being able to properly finish school. I was heartbroken I loved
    my school. Being torn away felt like a physical pain.

    Though I was heartbroken, lockdown was the first time I had had a big
    rest for many years. For the first time I wasnt waking up with a racing >heart, already feeling anxious. I felt like a hamster that had been able
    to step off the wheel. Lockdown gave me the space and peace to
    re-evaluate what matters to me. It healed me.

    I matured a lot over that year. I realised that instead of valuing other >peoples vision of success, I value a slow life, spending time with
    friends, not being stressed. I value being able to feel silly and young
    and not be worried.

    It was incredible, coming to that realisation after giving up so much of
    my youth to achieving my ambition to get into Cambridge. I hadnt done
    any partying or anything extracurricular. During that year out, I
    realised with great sadness how much Id given up and that I could never
    get those things back.

    I still went to Cambridge but I only lasted a year because, thanks to my
    time of peacefulness, I quickly realised it was no longer who I was and
    I had the courage to step away.

    If I hadnt had that Covid year to decompress, I dont think I would
    have been able to break out of my paradigm. I would have stayed at
    Cambridge and become more and more unhappy, pushing myself to the brink.
    I would have been perpetually unhappy and probably turned into a hermit, >doing nothing but work. Its possible that I would have self-harmed or >developed an eating disorder. I would probably have had a breakdown.

    Im now at UEA and having an amazing time. I aim for Bs not As, which
    means Ive got time for friends and for me. I have the time to listen to >music. I take the weekends off. I cook for myself. I am very, very happy.

    Jess Paine is 22 and from Nottingham. Having completed her degree at >Birmingham University, she is now in Greece, working with refugees

    Jess Paine
    Jess Paine: The experience of giving back to the community has changed
    my future plans entirely. Photograph: Fabio De Paola/The Guardian >Advertisement
    The pandemic was, as weird as this sounds, incredibly positive and >life-affirming for me. It led directly to me reframing my whole life and
    even changing the foundations of my identity. Gone are the ambitions for
    a high-flying career: I want to help people by being actively political.

    I was loving living in Birmingham when Covid hit and we were all told we
    had to go home. I had to leave this amazing, massive city behind me and
    head back to the tiny, rural village that I thought Id left behind me
    for good. Im lucky in that Im an incredibly optimistic person. I had
    been so excited to be in Birmingham but when I was sent away, I felt I
    was lucky to have a home to go back to and loved all the Zoom calls with
    the new uni friends Id made.

    We were given barely any coursework at all for the first year, so I had
    a lot of time to myself. Again, a lot of people might have flipped but I >realised that Covid had given me the opportunity to look outside the box
    that I would otherwise have been stuck in. It stripped away all familiar >routines and gave me all this solitary time to reflect on my life and
    think about what other exciting experiences I now had the opportunity to >engage in. I think of it as an early midlife crisis.

    I started doing lots of volunteer work during lockdown and it was a >revelation to me. I found it really liberating and the experience of
    giving back to the community has changed my future plans entirely.
    Before, Id always thought Id go into academia but Ive realised that
    my calling is in volunteering: in the human connection.

    Housing and homelessness has became a big passion for me. It wasnt
    something that Id ever thought about before: theres no homelessness in
    my tiny village. But going to Birmingham, I saw homeless people and that
    gave me food for thought. Then when Covid hit, I thought of all the
    people stuck in small, poor quality high-rise buildings while I was in
    my mums lovely home.

    The other thing that the lockdown gave me was time to come to faith. I
    was already talking with a Christian student group before Covid hit and
    we continued the conversations over lockdown. I dont think I would have >found my way to Christ had it not been for the lockdown: I had the time
    to think about the bigger things. Its something of a miracle. There, I
    said it! A miracle. Thats really how I feel.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
    mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?









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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Tue Oct 4 21:51:32 2022
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    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/we-gave-up-so-much-how-covid-changed-young-peoples-lives


    ‘We gave up so much’: how Covid changed young people’s lives
    Clockwise from top left: Eoin O’Loughlin, Zubaydah Abdi, Jess Paine and
    Eva Yacobi Composite: Guardian Design
    Young people across the UK reflect on how the pandemic affected them –
    and continues to shape their futures

    Covid has left a third of young people feeling life is out of control –
    study
    by Amelia Hill
    Mon 3 Oct 2022 01.00 EDT
    In the next phase of the Guardian’s Covid Generation series, young
    people across the UK reflect on how the Covid pandemic changed their
    lives and continues to have an effect on their futures.

    Marcel Charowski is 12 and lives in London with his parents and sister.
    He is in his first year of secondary school

    Marcel Charowski
    Marcel Charowski: ‘I feel old before my time’. Photograph: Mark
    Pinder/The Guardian
    The pandemic definitely changed me. I was a carefree child before it
    hit. Now I’m quite scared and negative. I feel old before my time. One
    of the worst things about Covid was not being able to visit my
    grandparents in Poland. I could see them getting older over Zoom and I
    was scared they would die before I could visit them again.

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    I also had the last year of primary school taken away from me. I didn’t
    have a chance to say goodbye to anyone or have a school leavers’ party.
    Then I lost those friends for good over lockdown. We tried to stay in
    touch online but we ran out of things to say and drifted away from each
    other.

    It makes me sad that I won’t have any friends in my future from primary
    school. It’s also made me think about how people you think of as “for
    ever friends” can just drift away. I think that’s why I’ve found it hard
    to make new friends at secondary school.

    My dad nearly died thanks to Covid. My mum spent a lot of time at the
    hospital with him for seven months and I had to wait at home, worried
    every day that she would come home and tell me he’d died. I was
    frightened all of that time. It’s probably why I worry a lot about death >> now. Death is always waiting for you. I worry that Covid will come back
    in a worse variant or we may get another plague. We’ve already had
    monkeypox.

    Lockdown was very lonely for me. I was pretty much on my own, in front
    of a computer, doing home learning – which was incredibly hard because
    you can’t ask for help in the same way: you’re told what to do, then you >> log off and have to do the work on your own.

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    I would say that before Covid, I used to be worry-free but now I don’t
    really care about anything. I don’t get excited about anything.

    Eva Yacobi is 14 and lives in the south of England. She had just started
    secondary school when lockdown began

    Before Covid, I wanted to be a singer. Now I realise there’s nothing
    stopping me from being an entrepreneur, starting my own business or
    being a CEO of a big company.

    It was all because of lockdown: I would never have started thinking like
    this otherwise. Home learning was so boring – I was so over sitting in
    front of my computer, doing endless worksheets and online lessons. I
    started making jewellery just for fun and then it occurred to me that I
    could start a business, sell what I’d made and give the profits to charity.

    young-covid-5
    Generation Z and the Covid pandemic: 'I’m 100% more politicised'
    Read more
    It was so amazing. I’d been quite lonely – I’d got to the stage where I
    barely talked to my friends online because we’d run out of stuff to say
    to each other – but when I started selling my jewellery I was having
    conversations with people from all over who wanted to buy what I’d made. >> That really opened my horizons back up. It felt amazing.

    It was also really cool to realise that all that stuff that seemed so
    complicated really wasn’t: it wasn’t such a big deal to make a website, >> advertise across different social media sites. I realised I was much
    more capable than I’d thought.

    Lockdown was also nice in that I got a lot closer to my family and, in
    particular, my younger brother. He and I spent a lot of time together,
    making art and talking for hours.

    Lockdown wasn’t great though in the way I became totally dependent on
    screens though. I once spent three whole days watching Netflix during
    lockdown: I was completely obsessed. That feeling hasn’t really gone
    away: screens were everything to me for two years and remain a much
    bigger part of my life now lockdown has ended than they would have been
    if it had never happened. It’s not healthy but it’s how it is. I think >> my generation gave up a lot more than other generations over lockdown
    because these are such important years for us, where we find change
    hard. Our schools are putting a lot of effort into helping us transition
    back into real life but I don’t think politicians have really done enough. >>
    Zubaydah Abdi is 19 and lives in Tottenham with her parents – a cab
    driver and special needs teacher – and her five siblings. She has just
    started studying medicine at King’s College London

    Zubaydah Abdi
    Zubaydah Abdi: ‘I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling hopeless and >> angsty’. Photograph: Christian Sinibaldi/The Guardian
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    The years between 16 and 18 are a blur to me: I feel as if I’m a
    16-year-old stuck within a 19-year-old’s body without the experiences or >> skills to fulfil their responsibilities.

    This does make me sad: the years I’ve missed are important ones – you’re
    supposed to have all sorts of experiences to form the adult you become.
    But my life during those key years had no substance to it: it was just
    school and home. I worry how that time lost and time wasted will come
    back to haunt me in later life.

    The pandemic also had an impact on me emotionally. We had relatives who
    died and that, combined with all the other awful things that went on
    over those two years, it led to me becoming fairly desensitised. Instead
    of opening my gaze out to the wide world and thinking about my place in
    it, I focused in on myself. I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling
    hopeless and angsty.

    When I got my teacher-assessed A-level grades, I didn’t know what to
    think. In all honesty, the grades I was given – 4 A*s – were probably
    better than I would have got had I done the exams. That’s given me a
    strong sense of impostor syndrome for university: I’m not going to feel
    that I’m qualified to be where I am and that’s going to be destabilising.

    I opted to take a gap year so I could try to make up for all those lost
    experiences. I saved money by working in retail, which forced me to be
    out and about after so long being locked away. I then volunteered at a
    hospital in Tanzania, which helped confirm for me that medicine was what
    I wanted to do with my life. I also made friends from around the world
    to make up for those I lost during the pandemic.

    All this helped resensitise me – it helped me open my gaze back up
    again, to burst the bubble I’d been living in and bringing me back to
    real life.

    It also helped me channel the anger I’d built up over the pandemic. I
    realised that I could help people through medicine. I think before
    Covid, I would have used my medical degree to do research but now I want
    to use it to go out into the world and make it a better place. In that
    way, you could say that Covid been a good thing: it has focused my
    political and campaigning zeal.

    Lily Smith is 19 and comes from Manchester. She is in her second year of
    studying musical theatre at Anglia Ruskin University

    Lily Smith
    Lily Smith: ‘Being given the time to make the decision to jump from
    science to the arts essentially saved my life’. Photograph: Sophia
    Evans/The Observer
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    I feel guilty saying this but the pandemic was, for me, a brilliant
    thing: it changed my life and I’ll always be grateful.

    I was doing A-levels when Covid hit and intended to study sciences at
    university. I was already finding my courses hard but it got much worse
    during lockdown: it became impossible to get the support I needed. I
    quickly began feeling hopeless and overwhelmed. It was a really bleak
    time. My friends had been the only thing that had helped me when I’d
    been feeling stressed before Covid and when they were taken away from me
    by lockdown, it all crashed down.

    I managed to get online counselling in May 2020 but after a while, the
    enforced isolation began to have a different effect: I realised that it
    was nice to be on my own in this almost womb-like environment where I
    didn’t need to be anything for anybody. I had stepped off the conveyor
    belt of school, expectation and achievement.

    What I realised was that I’d been pushing myself towards this career in
    science because that’s what everyone told me I should do but it wasn’t >> who I actually was.

    I found myself playing the piano more and suddenly I realised that I
    could choose to make myself happier – and the way to do that was to do
    something in the arts. Then it hit me: I was going to be a stage actor.
    My piano teacher recommended an amazing singing teacher who helped me
    work on auditions for universities.

    I am so happy now. If the pandemic hadn’t happened, I doubt I would have >> got the A-levels I needed to do science at university and that would
    have been so devastating that I honestly don’t know if I would still be
    here today.

    Being given the time to make the decision to jump from science to the
    arts essentially saved my life. Without the pandemic, there’s no way
    that would have been possible.

    Eoin O’Loughlin, 20, moved from Dublin to Dundee during the pandemic to
    study at the Scottish School for Contemporary Dance

    Eoin O’Loughlin
    Eoin O’Loughlin: ‘The pandemic stunted me at the exact moment I was
    ready to burst out creatively and socially’. Photograph: Murdo
    MacLeod/The Guardian
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    I think my generation gave up a lot during the pandemic for older people
    because it hit at such a key, developmental time for us. We were happy
    to do it at the time but problems have come since because the government
    hasn’t acknowledged what we sacrificed. Some recognition and some
    recompense would help, in terms of support for the issues – around
    careers, education, mental health, physical health – that my generation
    suffered and still suffers as a direct result of pandemic policies
    introduced to protect the older generation.

    The sad thing is that we gave so much up because we had a sense of
    community. But because there’s been no recognition of what we gave up or >> any attempt to recompense us, I think that sense of community has been
    burnt out of us. I’m not sure that my generation would be as happy or
    willing to sacrifice ourselves for other people a second time. I think
    we all feel our goodwill was taken advantage of.

    The pandemic was dreadful for me. It stunted me at the exact moment I
    was ready to burst out creatively and socially, and start exploring and
    making my mark on the world. The pandemic meant that I had to adapt from
    being a child to an adult with no transition period – I missed my
    secondary school exams and graduation, along with my 18th and 19th
    birthdays. I then missed my first year of college in Dundee – and doing
    a dance degree at home, in front of a laptop screen is no fun at all.

    I feel l’ve lost my younger self in the pandemic. I’ve lost that
    youthful exuberance and joyfulness I once had. I feel like an old man:
    even though lockdown is over, I just want to stay in now – read a book
    and drink some tea.

    Because of the pandemic, however, I met the love of my life and am now
    happier than I’ve ever been. If you take Jack into account, all the pain >> of the pandemic was definitely worth it. But I wish I hadn’t had to go
    through that to meet him.

    Michael Nesi-Pio, 20, was in his final year of A-levels when Covid hit

    Michael Nesi-Pio
    Michael Nesi-Pio: ‘It’s only when you experience something bad that you >> realise what makes you happy and what’s important’. Photograph: Joel
    Goodman/The Guardian
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    I had planned to take a year out after A-levels to grow up a bit, travel
    and decide what I wanted to do at university and in life. But when Covid
    hit, I panicked and grabbed at the first degree course recommended to me
    by my teachers, which was chemistry.

    I wasn’t able to take my exams and my teacher-assessed grades were
    crazily lower than my predictions, so I didn’t get my place at
    Manchester. I panicked again and snatched the first alternative course I
    could find, which was in Sheffield. I didn’t really want to do that
    course and I didn’t want to go to that university but with the world
    exploding, I didn’t feel I had any choices.

    It was a disaster. In retrospect, I think I became seriously depressed.
    I was so lonely and miserable in lockdown in Sheffield. I spent all day
    in my room in the dark.

    My girlfriend eventually persuaded me to stop pretending everything was
    OK and drop out. I left in March 2021 with a £11k debt. I reapplied to
    Manchester and got in to study politics and philosophy.

    I’m not angry about the time I lost, the debt and the traumatic time I
    had though. I think what I went through was good because it’s only when
    you experience something bad that you realise what makes you happy and
    what’s important.

    The past year has added to my character. I’m more resilient, more
    determined. I now prioritise my mental health and my own happiness.

    My generation is in a difficult position now because older generations
    judge us and have expectations of us aligned to our chronological age.
    But we lost our formative years and haven’t had the life experiences
    that you need to grow up. We’re not given any leeway to reflect that.

    I also get angry because I think my generation sacrificed more than
    other generations over Covid. I get angry at the experiences we missed.
    I get angry that we’ve never been given credit for what we sacrificed
    for others.

    Kate Nichols, 20, is from Newcastle upon Tyne and is in her final year
    at Cardiff University

    I got Covid on 21 December 2021 and, 10 months later, have still not
    recovered. Last week, I finally got my referral to a chronic fatigue
    syndrome clinic, which I’m hoping will help.

    Christmas with Covid was really sad. We had to cancel my grandparents
    coming round, so they were on their own with no time to arrange their
    own alternative Christmas. I stayed in my bedroom: my Christmas dinner
    was left outside my door. After I’d finished, I had to wipe my plate,
    glass and cutlery with antiseptic wipes before my parents could collect
    it. It was lonely and grim.

    Evidence grows of lockdown harm to the young. But we act as if nothing
    happened
    Martha Gill
    Martha Gill
    Read more
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    I had Covid for a week and felt bad but after it went, I started getting
    endless infections: I had tonsillitis seven times, endless recurrent
    chest infections, breathing problems, brain fog and was constantly
    exhausted. I was taking so many antibiotics that I was quite scared: at
    one point, I was taking eight tablets a day and they still weren’t
    working, so the doctors had to give me stronger ones.

    I still have problems with tiredness, brain fog and breathing – there’s >> a crackling in my lungs that’s pretty scary – and if I go out with
    friends in the evenings, I’m destroyed for the next few days: my
    tonsillitis will come back, probably a chest infection and I’ll have
    days of really severe brain fog.

    It’s frustrating – so much of student life revolves around the nightlife >> – but I can’t risk getting behind in my studies, which I’ve worked hard
    to keep up with despite my long Covid.

    On the upside, not being able to go out in the evening means I now see
    my friends during the day and we talk a lot more. I’d say I’m closer to >> my friends as a result of this change of socialising style, and that’s a >> positive: I sat in a coffee shop for three hours the other day with a
    friend, just talking. I’m also far more health-conscious than I was
    before getting long Covid. I always went to the gym but now I’m
    super-conscious of what I eat, drink and I make sure I get as much
    exercise as I can manage.

    I suppose that’s a positive too but in truth, this long Covid is really
    hard, frustrating and sad: these are supposed to be my carefree, healthy
    years.

    Eliza Niblett, from Leicestershire, is 20 and has just started her third
    year studying experimental psychology at Oxford University

    Eliza Niblett: ‘The stress of feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is
    exhausting’.
    Eliza Niblett: ‘The stress of feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is
    exhausting’. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian
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    One of the saddest impacts of the pandemic is that I still haven’t had
    my first kiss. I’ve never even been on a date. I’m a lesbian and at
    school that was really difficult. I thought it would become easier when
    I got to university but it didn’t happen because of Covid and now it
    seems like a big, scary thing instead of an exciting, natural step.

    Even though university is finally back on track after a really difficult
    first year, I missed so much because of the pandemic that I don’t feel
    ready to be where I am. I spent my second year at uni playing catch-up,
    both academically and socially, but I’m still getting used to the idea
    of interacting with people: I’ve never gone out and got drunk; I’ve
    never been in a nightclub or done a pub crawl. I wanted to do that sort
    of thing when I first got to university but now the moment has passed
    and it just seems really scary to go out and lose control.

    Covid mucked up lots of other things for me that I’m still affected by.
    I was given A-level grades based on an algorithm that the government
    later admitted disadvantaged state-school students like me. That
    algorithm downgraded the grades my teachers had estimated for me, which
    meant I lost my place at Oxford.

    It was devastating and I decided to get the government to change their
    minds. I organised an open letter to the education secretary using
    testimonies from people who had also been affected. I spoke on local
    radio and TV, and lots of people sent messages of support.

    Eventually, the government announced the grading U-turn and Oxford
    reinstated my place. But it didn’t undo how traumatising it had all
    been: two years on and I still constantly question what it was about me
    that made my tutors decide that I was the one they would reject when
    others who had been downgraded were still given places. The stress of
    feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is exhausting.

    Thanks to the pandemic, I barely interacted with anyone for my entire
    first year at university. I tried to focus on work and not lament how
    rubbish my hard-won Oxford experience was turning out to be but it was
    hard to ignore it. There was just this emptiness and nothingness where
    there should have been excitement and inspiration.

    Ella Thornton, 20, gave up her place at Cambridge University in 2021
    after a year. She is now at the University of East Anglia studying education >>
    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home.
    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home. Photograph: Joshua
    Bright/The Guardian
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    The pandemic completely transformed my life for the better but it was an
    incredibly painful journey. The first thing Covid did was to stop me
    from being able to properly finish school. I was heartbroken – I loved
    my school. Being torn away felt like a physical pain.

    Though I was heartbroken, lockdown was the first time I had had a big
    rest for many years. For the first time I wasn’t waking up with a racing >> heart, already feeling anxious. I felt like a hamster that had been able
    to step off the wheel. Lockdown gave me the space and peace to
    re-evaluate what matters to me. It healed me.

    I matured a lot over that year. I realised that instead of valuing other
    people’s vision of success, I value a slow life, spending time with
    friends, not being stressed. I value being able to feel silly and young
    and not be worried.

    It was incredible, coming to that realisation after giving up so much of
    my youth to achieving my ambition to get into Cambridge. I hadn’t done
    any partying or anything extracurricular. During that year out, I
    realised with great sadness how much I’d given up and that I could never >> get those things back.

    I still went to Cambridge but I only lasted a year because, thanks to my
    time of peacefulness, I quickly realised it was no longer who I was and
    I had the courage to step away.

    If I hadn’t had that Covid year to decompress, I don’t think I would
    have been able to break out of my paradigm. I would have stayed at
    Cambridge and become more and more unhappy, pushing myself to the brink.
    I would have been perpetually unhappy and probably turned into a hermit,
    doing nothing but work. It’s possible that I would have self-harmed or
    developed an eating disorder. I would probably have had a breakdown.

    I’m now at UEA and having an amazing time. I aim for Bs not As, which
    means I’ve got time for friends and for me. I have the time to listen to >> music. I take the weekends off. I cook for myself. I am very, very happy.

    Jess Paine is 22 and from Nottingham. Having completed her degree at
    Birmingham University, she is now in Greece, working with refugees

    Jess Paine
    Jess Paine: ‘The experience of giving back to the community has changed
    my future plans entirely’. Photograph: Fabio De Paola/The Guardian
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    The pandemic was, as weird as this sounds, incredibly positive and
    life-affirming for me. It led directly to me reframing my whole life and
    even changing the foundations of my identity. Gone are the ambitions for
    a high-flying career: I want to help people by being actively political.

    I was loving living in Birmingham when Covid hit and we were all told we
    had to go home. I had to leave this amazing, massive city behind me and
    head back to the tiny, rural village that I thought I’d left behind me
    for good. I’m lucky in that I’m an incredibly optimistic person. I had >> been so excited to be in Birmingham but when I was sent away, I felt I
    was lucky to have a home to go back to and loved all the Zoom calls with
    the new uni friends I’d made.

    We were given barely any coursework at all for the first year, so I had
    a lot of time to myself. Again, a lot of people might have flipped but I
    realised that Covid had given me the opportunity to look outside the box
    that I would otherwise have been stuck in. It stripped away all familiar
    routines and gave me all this solitary time to reflect on my life and
    think about what other exciting experiences I now had the opportunity to
    engage in. I think of it as an early midlife crisis.

    I started doing lots of volunteer work during lockdown and it was a
    revelation to me. I found it really liberating and the experience of
    giving back to the community has changed my future plans entirely.
    Before, I’d always thought I’d go into academia but I’ve realised that >> my calling is in volunteering: in the human connection.

    Housing and homelessness has became a big passion for me. It wasn’t
    something that I’d ever thought about before: there’s no homelessness in >> my tiny village. But going to Birmingham, I saw homeless people and that
    gave me food for thought. Then when Covid hit, I thought of all the
    people stuck in small, poor quality high-rise buildings while I was in
    my mum’s lovely home.

    The other thing that the lockdown gave me was time to come to faith. I
    was already talking with a Christian student group before Covid hit and
    we continued the conversations over lockdown. I don’t think I would have >> found my way to Christ had it not been for the lockdown: I had the time
    to think about the bigger things. It’s something of a miracle. There, I
    said it! A miracle. That’s really how I feel.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?
    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Wed Oct 5 01:04:56 2022
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    Michael Ejercito wrote
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/we-gave-up-so-much-how-covid-changed-young-peoples-lives


    We gave up so much: how Covid changed young peoples lives
    Clockwise from top left: Eoin OLoughlin, Zubaydah Abdi, Jess Paine and
    Eva Yacobi Composite: Guardian Design
    Young people across the UK reflect on how the pandemic affected them
    and continues to shape their futures

    Covid has left a third of young people feeling life is out of control
    study
    by Amelia Hill
    Mon 3 Oct 2022 01.00 EDT
    In the next phase of the Guardians Covid Generation series, young
    people across the UK reflect on how the Covid pandemic changed their
    lives and continues to have an effect on their futures.

    Marcel Charowski is 12 and lives in London with his parents and sister.
    He is in his first year of secondary school

    Marcel Charowski
    Marcel Charowski: I feel old before my time. Photograph: Mark
    Pinder/The Guardian
    The pandemic definitely changed me. I was a carefree child before it
    hit. Now Im quite scared and negative. I feel old before my time. One
    of the worst things about Covid was not being able to visit my
    grandparents in Poland. I could see them getting older over Zoom and I
    was scared they would die before I could visit them again.

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    I also had the last year of primary school taken away from me. I didnt
    have a chance to say goodbye to anyone or have a school leavers party.
    Then I lost those friends for good over lockdown. We tried to stay in
    touch online but we ran out of things to say and drifted away from each
    other.

    It makes me sad that I wont have any friends in my future from primary
    school. Its also made me think about how people you think of as for
    ever friends can just drift away. I think thats why Ive found it hard >>> to make new friends at secondary school.

    My dad nearly died thanks to Covid. My mum spent a lot of time at the
    hospital with him for seven months and I had to wait at home, worried
    every day that she would come home and tell me hed died. I was
    frightened all of that time. Its probably why I worry a lot about death >>> now. Death is always waiting for you. I worry that Covid will come back
    in a worse variant or we may get another plague. Weve already had
    monkeypox.

    Lockdown was very lonely for me. I was pretty much on my own, in front
    of a computer, doing home learning which was incredibly hard because
    you cant ask for help in the same way: youre told what to do, then you >>> log off and have to do the work on your own.

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    I would say that before Covid, I used to be worry-free but now I dont
    really care about anything. I dont get excited about anything.

    Eva Yacobi is 14 and lives in the south of England. She had just started >>> secondary school when lockdown began

    Before Covid, I wanted to be a singer. Now I realise theres nothing
    stopping me from being an entrepreneur, starting my own business or
    being a CEO of a big company.

    It was all because of lockdown: I would never have started thinking like >>> this otherwise. Home learning was so boring I was so over sitting in
    front of my computer, doing endless worksheets and online lessons. I
    started making jewellery just for fun and then it occurred to me that I
    could start a business, sell what Id made and give the profits to charity. >>>
    young-covid-5
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    It was so amazing. Id been quite lonely Id got to the stage where I
    barely talked to my friends online because wed run out of stuff to say
    to each other but when I started selling my jewellery I was having
    conversations with people from all over who wanted to buy what Id made. >>> That really opened my horizons back up. It felt amazing.

    It was also really cool to realise that all that stuff that seemed so
    complicated really wasnt: it wasnt such a big deal to make a website,
    advertise across different social media sites. I realised I was much
    more capable than Id thought.

    Lockdown was also nice in that I got a lot closer to my family and, in
    particular, my younger brother. He and I spent a lot of time together,
    making art and talking for hours.

    Lockdown wasnt great though in the way I became totally dependent on
    screens though. I once spent three whole days watching Netflix during
    lockdown: I was completely obsessed. That feeling hasnt really gone
    away: screens were everything to me for two years and remain a much
    bigger part of my life now lockdown has ended than they would have been
    if it had never happened. Its not healthy but its how it is. I think
    my generation gave up a lot more than other generations over lockdown
    because these are such important years for us, where we find change
    hard. Our schools are putting a lot of effort into helping us transition >>> back into real life but I dont think politicians have really done enough. >>>
    Zubaydah Abdi is 19 and lives in Tottenham with her parents a cab
    driver and special needs teacher and her five siblings. She has just
    started studying medicine at Kings College London

    Zubaydah Abdi
    Zubaydah Abdi: I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling hopeless and >>> angsty. Photograph: Christian Sinibaldi/The Guardian
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    The years between 16 and 18 are a blur to me: I feel as if Im a
    16-year-old stuck within a 19-year-olds body without the experiences or >>> skills to fulfil their responsibilities.

    This does make me sad: the years Ive missed are important ones youre >>> supposed to have all sorts of experiences to form the adult you become.
    But my life during those key years had no substance to it: it was just
    school and home. I worry how that time lost and time wasted will come
    back to haunt me in later life.

    The pandemic also had an impact on me emotionally. We had relatives who
    died and that, combined with all the other awful things that went on
    over those two years, it led to me becoming fairly desensitised. Instead >>> of opening my gaze out to the wide world and thinking about my place in
    it, I focused in on myself. I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling
    hopeless and angsty.

    When I got my teacher-assessed A-level grades, I didnt know what to
    think. In all honesty, the grades I was given 4 A*s were probably
    better than I would have got had I done the exams. Thats given me a
    strong sense of impostor syndrome for university: Im not going to feel
    that Im qualified to be where I am and thats going to be destabilising. >>>
    I opted to take a gap year so I could try to make up for all those lost
    experiences. I saved money by working in retail, which forced me to be
    out and about after so long being locked away. I then volunteered at a
    hospital in Tanzania, which helped confirm for me that medicine was what >>> I wanted to do with my life. I also made friends from around the world
    to make up for those I lost during the pandemic.

    All this helped resensitise me it helped me open my gaze back up
    again, to burst the bubble Id been living in and bringing me back to
    real life.

    It also helped me channel the anger Id built up over the pandemic. I
    realised that I could help people through medicine. I think before
    Covid, I would have used my medical degree to do research but now I want >>> to use it to go out into the world and make it a better place. In that
    way, you could say that Covid been a good thing: it has focused my
    political and campaigning zeal.

    Lily Smith is 19 and comes from Manchester. She is in her second year of >>> studying musical theatre at Anglia Ruskin University

    Lily Smith
    Lily Smith: Being given the time to make the decision to jump from
    science to the arts essentially saved my life. Photograph: Sophia
    Evans/The Observer
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    I feel guilty saying this but the pandemic was, for me, a brilliant
    thing: it changed my life and Ill always be grateful.

    I was doing A-levels when Covid hit and intended to study sciences at
    university. I was already finding my courses hard but it got much worse
    during lockdown: it became impossible to get the support I needed. I
    quickly began feeling hopeless and overwhelmed. It was a really bleak
    time. My friends had been the only thing that had helped me when Id
    been feeling stressed before Covid and when they were taken away from me >>> by lockdown, it all crashed down.

    I managed to get online counselling in May 2020 but after a while, the
    enforced isolation began to have a different effect: I realised that it
    was nice to be on my own in this almost womb-like environment where I
    didnt need to be anything for anybody. I had stepped off the conveyor
    belt of school, expectation and achievement.

    What I realised was that Id been pushing myself towards this career in
    science because thats what everyone told me I should do but it wasnt
    who I actually was.

    I found myself playing the piano more and suddenly I realised that I
    could choose to make myself happier and the way to do that was to do
    something in the arts. Then it hit me: I was going to be a stage actor.
    My piano teacher recommended an amazing singing teacher who helped me
    work on auditions for universities.

    I am so happy now. If the pandemic hadnt happened, I doubt I would have >>> got the A-levels I needed to do science at university and that would
    have been so devastating that I honestly dont know if I would still be
    here today.

    Being given the time to make the decision to jump from science to the
    arts essentially saved my life. Without the pandemic, theres no way
    that would have been possible.

    Eoin OLoughlin, 20, moved from Dublin to Dundee during the pandemic to
    study at the Scottish School for Contemporary Dance

    Eoin OLoughlin
    Eoin OLoughlin: The pandemic stunted me at the exact moment I was
    ready to burst out creatively and socially. Photograph: Murdo
    MacLeod/The Guardian
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    I think my generation gave up a lot during the pandemic for older people >>> because it hit at such a key, developmental time for us. We were happy
    to do it at the time but problems have come since because the government >>> hasnt acknowledged what we sacrificed. Some recognition and some
    recompense would help, in terms of support for the issues around
    careers, education, mental health, physical health that my generation
    suffered and still suffers as a direct result of pandemic policies
    introduced to protect the older generation.

    The sad thing is that we gave so much up because we had a sense of
    community. But because theres been no recognition of what we gave up or >>> any attempt to recompense us, I think that sense of community has been
    burnt out of us. Im not sure that my generation would be as happy or
    willing to sacrifice ourselves for other people a second time. I think
    we all feel our goodwill was taken advantage of.

    The pandemic was dreadful for me. It stunted me at the exact moment I
    was ready to burst out creatively and socially, and start exploring and
    making my mark on the world. The pandemic meant that I had to adapt from >>> being a child to an adult with no transition period I missed my
    secondary school exams and graduation, along with my 18th and 19th
    birthdays. I then missed my first year of college in Dundee and doing
    a dance degree at home, in front of a laptop screen is no fun at all.

    I feel lve lost my younger self in the pandemic. Ive lost that
    youthful exuberance and joyfulness I once had. I feel like an old man:
    even though lockdown is over, I just want to stay in now read a book
    and drink some tea.

    Because of the pandemic, however, I met the love of my life and am now
    happier than Ive ever been. If you take Jack into account, all the pain >>> of the pandemic was definitely worth it. But I wish I hadnt had to go
    through that to meet him.

    Michael Nesi-Pio, 20, was in his final year of A-levels when Covid hit

    Michael Nesi-Pio
    Michael Nesi-Pio: Its only when you experience something bad that you
    realise what makes you happy and whats important. Photograph: Joel
    Goodman/The Guardian
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    I had planned to take a year out after A-levels to grow up a bit, travel >>> and decide what I wanted to do at university and in life. But when Covid >>> hit, I panicked and grabbed at the first degree course recommended to me >>> by my teachers, which was chemistry.

    I wasnt able to take my exams and my teacher-assessed grades were
    crazily lower than my predictions, so I didnt get my place at
    Manchester. I panicked again and snatched the first alternative course I >>> could find, which was in Sheffield. I didnt really want to do that
    course and I didnt want to go to that university but with the world
    exploding, I didnt feel I had any choices.

    It was a disaster. In retrospect, I think I became seriously depressed.
    I was so lonely and miserable in lockdown in Sheffield. I spent all day
    in my room in the dark.

    My girlfriend eventually persuaded me to stop pretending everything was
    OK and drop out. I left in March 2021 with a 11k debt. I reapplied to
    Manchester and got in to study politics and philosophy.

    Im not angry about the time I lost, the debt and the traumatic time I
    had though. I think what I went through was good because its only when
    you experience something bad that you realise what makes you happy and
    whats important.

    The past year has added to my character. Im more resilient, more
    determined. I now prioritise my mental health and my own happiness.

    My generation is in a difficult position now because older generations
    judge us and have expectations of us aligned to our chronological age.
    But we lost our formative years and havent had the life experiences
    that you need to grow up. Were not given any leeway to reflect that.

    I also get angry because I think my generation sacrificed more than
    other generations over Covid. I get angry at the experiences we missed.
    I get angry that weve never been given credit for what we sacrificed
    for others.

    Kate Nichols, 20, is from Newcastle upon Tyne and is in her final year
    at Cardiff University

    I got Covid on 21 December 2021 and, 10 months later, have still not
    recovered. Last week, I finally got my referral to a chronic fatigue
    syndrome clinic, which Im hoping will help.

    Christmas with Covid was really sad. We had to cancel my grandparents
    coming round, so they were on their own with no time to arrange their
    own alternative Christmas. I stayed in my bedroom: my Christmas dinner
    was left outside my door. After Id finished, I had to wipe my plate,
    glass and cutlery with antiseptic wipes before my parents could collect
    it. It was lonely and grim.

    Evidence grows of lockdown harm to the young. But we act as if nothing
    happened
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    I had Covid for a week and felt bad but after it went, I started getting >>> endless infections: I had tonsillitis seven times, endless recurrent
    chest infections, breathing problems, brain fog and was constantly
    exhausted. I was taking so many antibiotics that I was quite scared: at
    one point, I was taking eight tablets a day and they still werent
    working, so the doctors had to give me stronger ones.

    I still have problems with tiredness, brain fog and breathing theres
    a crackling in my lungs thats pretty scary and if I go out with
    friends in the evenings, Im destroyed for the next few days: my
    tonsillitis will come back, probably a chest infection and Ill have
    days of really severe brain fog.

    Its frustrating so much of student life revolves around the nightlife >>> but I cant risk getting behind in my studies, which Ive worked hard
    to keep up with despite my long Covid.

    On the upside, not being able to go out in the evening means I now see
    my friends during the day and we talk a lot more. Id say Im closer to
    my friends as a result of this change of socialising style, and thats a >>> positive: I sat in a coffee shop for three hours the other day with a
    friend, just talking. Im also far more health-conscious than I was
    before getting long Covid. I always went to the gym but now Im
    super-conscious of what I eat, drink and I make sure I get as much
    exercise as I can manage.

    I suppose thats a positive too but in truth, this long Covid is really
    hard, frustrating and sad: these are supposed to be my carefree, healthy >>> years.

    Eliza Niblett, from Leicestershire, is 20 and has just started her third >>> year studying experimental psychology at Oxford University

    Eliza Niblett: The stress of feeling Im constantly on thin ice is
    exhausting.
    Eliza Niblett: The stress of feeling Im constantly on thin ice is
    exhausting. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian
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    One of the saddest impacts of the pandemic is that I still havent had
    my first kiss. Ive never even been on a date. Im a lesbian and at
    school that was really difficult. I thought it would become easier when
    I got to university but it didnt happen because of Covid and now it
    seems like a big, scary thing instead of an exciting, natural step.

    Even though university is finally back on track after a really difficult >>> first year, I missed so much because of the pandemic that I dont feel
    ready to be where I am. I spent my second year at uni playing catch-up,
    both academically and socially, but Im still getting used to the idea
    of interacting with people: Ive never gone out and got drunk; Ive
    never been in a nightclub or done a pub crawl. I wanted to do that sort
    of thing when I first got to university but now the moment has passed
    and it just seems really scary to go out and lose control.

    Covid mucked up lots of other things for me that Im still affected by.
    I was given A-level grades based on an algorithm that the government
    later admitted disadvantaged state-school students like me. That
    algorithm downgraded the grades my teachers had estimated for me, which
    meant I lost my place at Oxford.

    It was devastating and I decided to get the government to change their
    minds. I organised an open letter to the education secretary using
    testimonies from people who had also been affected. I spoke on local
    radio and TV, and lots of people sent messages of support.

    Eventually, the government announced the grading U-turn and Oxford
    reinstated my place. But it didnt undo how traumatising it had all
    been: two years on and I still constantly question what it was about me
    that made my tutors decide that I was the one they would reject when
    others who had been downgraded were still given places. The stress of
    feeling Im constantly on thin ice is exhausting.

    Thanks to the pandemic, I barely interacted with anyone for my entire
    first year at university. I tried to focus on work and not lament how
    rubbish my hard-won Oxford experience was turning out to be but it was
    hard to ignore it. There was just this emptiness and nothingness where
    there should have been excitement and inspiration.

    Ella Thornton, 20, gave up her place at Cambridge University in 2021
    after a year. She is now at the University of East Anglia studying education

    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home.
    Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home. Photograph: Joshua
    Bright/The Guardian
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    The pandemic completely transformed my life for the better but it was an >>> incredibly painful journey. The first thing Covid did was to stop me >>>from being able to properly finish school. I was heartbroken I loved
    my school. Being torn away felt like a physical pain.

    Though I was heartbroken, lockdown was the first time I had had a big
    rest for many years. For the first time I wasnt waking up with a racing >>> heart, already feeling anxious. I felt like a hamster that had been able >>> to step off the wheel. Lockdown gave me the space and peace to
    re-evaluate what matters to me. It healed me.

    I matured a lot over that year. I realised that instead of valuing other >>> peoples vision of success, I value a slow life, spending time with
    friends, not being stressed. I value being able to feel silly and young
    and not be worried.

    It was incredible, coming to that realisation after giving up so much of >>> my youth to achieving my ambition to get into Cambridge. I hadnt done
    any partying or anything extracurricular. During that year out, I
    realised with great sadness how much Id given up and that I could never >>> get those things back.

    I still went to Cambridge but I only lasted a year because, thanks to my >>> time of peacefulness, I quickly realised it was no longer who I was and
    I had the courage to step away.

    If I hadnt had that Covid year to decompress, I dont think I would
    have been able to break out of my paradigm. I would have stayed at
    Cambridge and become more and more unhappy, pushing myself to the brink. >>> I would have been perpetually unhappy and probably turned into a hermit, >>> doing nothing but work. Its possible that I would have self-harmed or
    developed an eating disorder. I would probably have had a breakdown.

    Im now at UEA and having an amazing time. I aim for Bs not As, which
    means Ive got time for friends and for me. I have the time to listen to >>> music. I take the weekends off. I cook for myself. I am very, very happy. >>>
    Jess Paine is 22 and from Nottingham. Having completed her degree at
    Birmingham University, she is now in Greece, working with refugees

    Jess Paine
    Jess Paine: The experience of giving back to the community has changed
    my future plans entirely. Photograph: Fabio De Paola/The Guardian
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    The pandemic was, as weird as this sounds, incredibly positive and
    life-affirming for me. It led directly to me reframing my whole life and >>> even changing the foundations of my identity. Gone are the ambitions for >>> a high-flying career: I want to help people by being actively political. >>>
    I was loving living in Birmingham when Covid hit and we were all told we >>> had to go home. I had to leave this amazing, massive city behind me and
    head back to the tiny, rural village that I thought Id left behind me
    for good. Im lucky in that Im an incredibly optimistic person. I had
    been so excited to be in Birmingham but when I was sent away, I felt I
    was lucky to have a home to go back to and loved all the Zoom calls with >>> the new uni friends Id made.

    We were given barely any coursework at all for the first year, so I had
    a lot of time to myself. Again, a lot of people might have flipped but I >>> realised that Covid had given me the opportunity to look outside the box >>> that I would otherwise have been stuck in. It stripped away all familiar >>> routines and gave me all this solitary time to reflect on my life and
    think about what other exciting experiences I now had the opportunity to >>> engage in. I think of it as an early midlife crisis.

    I started doing lots of volunteer work during lockdown and it was a
    revelation to me. I found it really liberating and the experience of
    giving back to the community has changed my future plans entirely.
    Before, Id always thought Id go into academia but Ive realised that
    my calling is in volunteering: in the human connection.

    Housing and homelessness has became a big passion for me. It wasnt
    something that Id ever thought about before: theres no homelessness in >>> my tiny village. But going to Birmingham, I saw homeless people and that >>> gave me food for thought. Then when Covid hit, I thought of all the
    people stuck in small, poor quality high-rise buildings while I was in
    my mums lovely home.

    The other thing that the lockdown gave me was time to come to faith. I
    was already talking with a Christian student group before Covid hit and
    we continued the conversations over lockdown. I dont think I would have >>> found my way to Christ had it not been for the lockdown: I had the time
    to think about the bigger things. Its something of a miracle. There, I
    said it! A miracle. Thats really how I feel.

    The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
    the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
    ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
    among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
    asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
    15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
    doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
    best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
    mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
    Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
    slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
    http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID
    vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward
    (John 15:12 as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all
    glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba,
    DEO), in the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Suggested further reading: https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ

    Shorter link:
    http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test

    Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
    diabetics and other heart disease patients:

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 11:01:05 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/05/22 RevEd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 11:54:02 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/05/22 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/_2fKwXe4VIw/m/MgyCT4DRBQAJ

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 13:54:39 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/05/22 Revd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 14:39:06 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/05/22 NEMO/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 6 11:12:08 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/06/22 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/_2fKwXe4VIw/m/MgyCT4DRBQAJ

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 6 11:26:39 2022
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Amelia) 10/06/22 Revd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
    with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
    is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
    than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
    even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs


    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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