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    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 12 08:06:52 2022
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    http://ethicsalarms.com/2022/05/12/ethics-observations-on-the-failed-womens-health-and-protection-act/


    Ethics Observations On The Failed “Women’s Health And Protection Act”
    MAY 12, 2022 / JACK MARSHALL


    I just didn’t think the Democratic Party’s ethics rot had progressed
    this far. I’m still stunned. Yesterday the Senate Democrats attempted to
    pass a pro-abortion bill that would have legalized a vague medical
    standard permiting late-term abortions right up until birth, prohibited
    states from restricting abortions until after 23 weeks gestation, and eliminated parental notification laws for minors, among other
    restrictions. Every Democratic Senator voted for the provision except
    West Virginia’s pariah of the Left, Joe Manchin. Every Republican
    Senator voted against the unethical monstrosity, so the bill was blocked
    from coming to the Senate floor for debate, 51-49.

    However, the ethics story is how the Democratic Party has allowed the pro-abortion fanatics in its ranks and among its “base” to thoroughly corrupt it to the point at it would openly endorse allowing unborn human
    beings to be killed at a point in their progress toward full citizenship
    when they are physiologically indistinguishable from newborns. (That’s a third-trimester fetus above). Not only that, the Party appears to think
    the majority of Americans are similarly inert ethically (or too
    apathetic and ignorant to deserve a democracy), and will support a
    position that is hostile to the concept of human rights and the
    foundational national principle of the right to life.


    Democrats can’t possibly be correct that the nation’s values have sunk
    so far, can they? But what do I know? Back in 2006, writing on The
    Ethics Scoreboard about a strange and ugly late-term abortion case in
    Virginia, where an unwilling mother shot herself in the stomach on the
    day her child was supposed to be delivered in order to kill her baby.
    (It worked.) I concluded the analysis by writing that I hoped…

    Left will restrain itself from diverting accountability from Skinner
    long enough to agree with the basic proposition that shooting an unborn
    child on its birthday is wrong.

    That can’t be too difficult.

    Can it?

    Apparently after 50 years of moral and ethical rot caused by Roe v. Wade
    making the killing of the unborn seem benign, reasonable, and a “right,”
    it is too difficult. In fact, the Democrats put the bill forward to
    create a “trap” by forcing Republicans to vote against it. Then they
    could say, “Look at these fanatics! They really think that birthing
    people shouldn’t be able to snuff out a nascent human being for any
    reason whatsoever, and treat it like a wart, a tumor or a parasite!”
    (Except for the bills name, “women” doesn’t appear anywhere in the language of the bill. The Democrats are counting on nobody reading it.)

    Sure enough, President Biden or his ventriloquists quickly responded to
    the entirely predictable defeat of the bill by demagoguing that the vote “runs counter to the will of the majority of American people” and that congressional Republicans, who cast the Democratic bill as a radical
    overreach, “have chosen to stand in the way of Americans’ rights to make the most personal decisions about their own bodies, families and lives.” Combine this with Sen. Schumer’s fatuous squeal,

    “Elect more pro-choice Democrats if you want to protect a woman’s
    freedom and right to choose. Elect more MAGA Republicans if you want to
    see a nationwide ban on abortion, if you want to see doctors and women arrested, if you want to see no exceptions for rape or incest.”

    And there we have it. The leaders of the Democratic Party now officially
    and openly take the position that there is no competing interest in the abortion debate. Biden made that statement after referring to the target
    of an abortion as “a child” last week. Fetuses don’t matter until the woman carrying them says so, and no human life is involved other than
    the mother’s mental, emotional or career well-being. Schumer’s focus on rape and incest makes that clear: a gestating child’s life has no value
    if the manner in which it came into being involved a crime. All human
    life, however, has the same value regardless of its origins—at least to people who have an ethical value toward life. Slavers and slave-owners,
    in contrast, regarded the life of human being conceived by blacks as
    less than human. It’s a similar point of view.

    Biden’s statement, as usual of late, is a lie. The bill allows abortion
    at will well into the second trimester, and polls indicate that most
    Americans think abortion should only be legal within the first
    trimester. In the case of late-term abortion, a 2019 survey conducted by You.gov found that 66% of U.S. adults who identify as pro-choice
    opposed third-trimester abortions, with 68% oppose abortions the day
    before a baby is born.

    Yes, only 68%. 50 years of forced abortion sanctification has done that
    much damage to pro-abortion Americans.

    The applicable provision of the defeated bill prevents

    (9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the
    good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider,
    continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant
    patient’s life or health.

    The words are so vague they would allow a physician to interpret “life”
    as broadly as necessary (in good faith, of course, always good faith!)
    to justify killing a completely viable fetus, and “health” to include
    the mother’s emotional or mental health. Neither “Life” nor “Health” are
    defined by the bill. That’s not, as they say, a bug but a feature.

    Then the mainstream media set out to perform its function last night,
    lying outright about the bill and the vote. MSNBC claimed a “GOP filibuster” had “derail(ed)” a bill “to codify Roe v. Wade protections.”
    That’s bad even for MSNBC. There was no filibuster–the bill was shot
    down by majority vote. The bill also went far beyond Roe v. Wade. Was
    the MSNBC tweet announcing this fabricated version of the event pulled
    by Twitter “factcheckers”? Does a bear relieve itself in the AMEX executive washroom?

    The Associated Press’s Zeke Miller endorsed both of these lies, saying
    it was a GOP-led filibuster that defeated the thing, and describing the Democratic bill as being designed to turn Roe v. Wade into law. Facts
    Don’t Matter to these people.

    Neither, we now know, do human lives.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Thu May 12 11:18:40 2022
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    http://ethicsalarms.com/2022/05/12/ethics-observations-on-the-failed-womens-health-and-protection-act/


    Ethics Observations On The Failed Womens Health And Protection Act
    MAY 12, 2022 / JACK MARSHALL


    I just didnt think the Democratic Partys ethics rot had progressed
    this far. Im still stunned. Yesterday the Senate Democrats attempted to
    pass a pro-abortion bill that would have legalized a vague medical
    standard permiting late-term abortions right up until birth, prohibited >states from restricting abortions until after 23 weeks gestation, and >eliminated parental notification laws for minors, among other
    restrictions. Every Democratic Senator voted for the provision except
    West Virginias pariah of the Left, Joe Manchin. Every Republican
    Senator voted against the unethical monstrosity, so the bill was blocked
    from coming to the Senate floor for debate, 51-49.

    However, the ethics story is how the Democratic Party has allowed the >pro-abortion fanatics in its ranks and among its base to thoroughly
    corrupt it to the point at it would openly endorse allowing unborn human >beings to be killed at a point in their progress toward full citizenship
    when they are physiologically indistinguishable from newborns. (Thats a >third-trimester fetus above). Not only that, the Party appears to think
    the majority of Americans are similarly inert ethically (or too
    apathetic and ignorant to deserve a democracy), and will support a
    position that is hostile to the concept of human rights and the
    foundational national principle of the right to life.


    Democrats cant possibly be correct that the nations values have sunk
    so far, can they? But what do I know? Back in 2006, writing on The
    Ethics Scoreboard about a strange and ugly late-term abortion case in >Virginia, where an unwilling mother shot herself in the stomach on the
    day her child was supposed to be delivered in order to kill her baby.
    (It worked.) I concluded the analysis by writing that I hoped

    Left will restrain itself from diverting accountability from Skinner
    long enough to agree with the basic proposition that shooting an unborn
    child on its birthday is wrong.

    That cant be too difficult.

    Can it?

    Apparently after 50 years of moral and ethical rot caused by Roe v. Wade >making the killing of the unborn seem benign, reasonable, and a right,
    it is too difficult. In fact, the Democrats put the bill forward to
    create a trap by forcing Republicans to vote against it. Then they
    could say, Look at these fanatics! They really think that birthing
    people shouldnt be able to snuff out a nascent human being for any
    reason whatsoever, and treat it like a wart, a tumor or a parasite!
    (Except for the bills name, women doesnt appear anywhere in the
    language of the bill. The Democrats are counting on nobody reading it.)

    Sure enough, President Biden or his ventriloquists quickly responded to
    the entirely predictable defeat of the bill by demagoguing that the vote >runs counter to the will of the majority of American people and that >congressional Republicans, who cast the Democratic bill as a radical >overreach, have chosen to stand in the way of Americans rights to make
    the most personal decisions about their own bodies, families and lives. >Combine this with Sen. Schumers fatuous squeal,

    Elect more pro-choice Democrats if you want to protect a womans
    freedom and right to choose. Elect more MAGA Republicans if you want to
    see a nationwide ban on abortion, if you want to see doctors and women >arrested, if you want to see no exceptions for rape or incest.

    And there we have it. The leaders of the Democratic Party now officially
    and openly take the position that there is no competing interest in the >abortion debate. Biden made that statement after referring to the target
    of an abortion as a child last week. Fetuses dont matter until the
    woman carrying them says so, and no human life is involved other than
    the mothers mental, emotional or career well-being. Schumers focus on
    rape and incest makes that clear: a gestating childs life has no value
    if the manner in which it came into being involved a crime. All human
    life, however, has the same value regardless of its originsat least to >people who have an ethical value toward life. Slavers and slave-owners,
    in contrast, regarded the life of human being conceived by blacks as
    less than human. Its a similar point of view.

    Bidens statement, as usual of late, is a lie. The bill allows abortion
    at will well into the second trimester, and polls indicate that most >Americans think abortion should only be legal within the first
    trimester. In the case of late-term abortion, a 2019 survey conducted by >You.gov found that 66% of U.S. adults who identify as pro-choice
    opposed third-trimester abortions, with 68% oppose abortions the day
    before a baby is born.

    Yes, only 68%. 50 years of forced abortion sanctification has done that
    much damage to pro-abortion Americans.

    The applicable provision of the defeated bill prevents

    (9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the
    good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, >continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant
    patients life or health.

    The words are so vague they would allow a physician to interpret life
    as broadly as necessary (in good faith, of course, always good faith!)
    to justify killing a completely viable fetus, and health to include
    the mothers emotional or mental health. Neither Life nor Health are >defined by the bill. Thats not, as they say, a bug but a feature.

    Then the mainstream media set out to perform its function last night,
    lying outright about the bill and the vote. MSNBC claimed a GOP
    filibuster had derail(ed) a bill to codify Roe v. Wade protections. >Thats bad even for MSNBC. There was no filibusterthe bill was shot
    down by majority vote. The bill also went far beyond Roe v. Wade. Was
    the MSNBC tweet announcing this fabricated version of the event pulled
    by Twitter factcheckers? Does a bear relieve itself in the AMEX
    executive washroom?

    The Associated Presss Zeke Miller endorsed both of these lies, saying
    it was a GOP-led filibuster that defeated the thing, and describing the >Democratic bill as being designed to turn Roe v. Wade into law. Facts
    Dont Matter to these people.

    Neither, we now know, do human lives.

    Tragically, abortions continue to be the terrible consequence of http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) people misbehaving
    terribly like http://bit.ly/h_angry (2 Kings 6:29) DJT.

    Suggested further reading:
    https://tinyurl.com/Psalm0201

    The only healthy way to stop abortions is to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) instead.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and
    hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?







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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Thu May 12 08:19:49 2022
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    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    http://ethicsalarms.com/2022/05/12/ethics-observations-on-the-failed-womens-health-and-protection-act/


    Ethics Observations On The Failed “Women’s Health And Protection Act” >> MAY 12, 2022 / JACK MARSHALL


    I just didn’t think the Democratic Party’s ethics rot had progressed
    this far. I’m still stunned. Yesterday the Senate Democrats attempted to >> pass a pro-abortion bill that would have legalized a vague medical
    standard permiting late-term abortions right up until birth, prohibited
    states from restricting abortions until after 23 weeks gestation, and
    eliminated parental notification laws for minors, among other
    restrictions. Every Democratic Senator voted for the provision except
    West Virginia’s pariah of the Left, Joe Manchin. Every Republican
    Senator voted against the unethical monstrosity, so the bill was blocked >>from coming to the Senate floor for debate, 51-49.

    However, the ethics story is how the Democratic Party has allowed the
    pro-abortion fanatics in its ranks and among its “base” to thoroughly
    corrupt it to the point at it would openly endorse allowing unborn human
    beings to be killed at a point in their progress toward full citizenship
    when they are physiologically indistinguishable from newborns. (That’s a >> third-trimester fetus above). Not only that, the Party appears to think
    the majority of Americans are similarly inert ethically (or too
    apathetic and ignorant to deserve a democracy), and will support a
    position that is hostile to the concept of human rights and the
    foundational national principle of the right to life.


    Democrats can’t possibly be correct that the nation’s values have sunk >> so far, can they? But what do I know? Back in 2006, writing on The
    Ethics Scoreboard about a strange and ugly late-term abortion case in
    Virginia, where an unwilling mother shot herself in the stomach on the
    day her child was supposed to be delivered in order to kill her baby.
    (It worked.) I concluded the analysis by writing that I hoped…

    Left will restrain itself from diverting accountability from Skinner
    long enough to agree with the basic proposition that shooting an unborn
    child on its birthday is wrong.

    That can’t be too difficult.

    Can it?

    Apparently after 50 years of moral and ethical rot caused by Roe v. Wade
    making the killing of the unborn seem benign, reasonable, and a “right,” >> it is too difficult. In fact, the Democrats put the bill forward to
    create a “trap” by forcing Republicans to vote against it. Then they
    could say, “Look at these fanatics! They really think that birthing
    people shouldn’t be able to snuff out a nascent human being for any
    reason whatsoever, and treat it like a wart, a tumor or a parasite!”
    (Except for the bills name, “women” doesn’t appear anywhere in the
    language of the bill. The Democrats are counting on nobody reading it.)

    Sure enough, President Biden or his ventriloquists quickly responded to
    the entirely predictable defeat of the bill by demagoguing that the vote
    “runs counter to the will of the majority of American people” and that >> congressional Republicans, who cast the Democratic bill as a radical
    overreach, “have chosen to stand in the way of Americans’ rights to make >> the most personal decisions about their own bodies, families and lives.” >> Combine this with Sen. Schumer’s fatuous squeal,

    “Elect more pro-choice Democrats if you want to protect a woman’s
    freedom and right to choose. Elect more MAGA Republicans if you want to
    see a nationwide ban on abortion, if you want to see doctors and women
    arrested, if you want to see no exceptions for rape or incest.”

    And there we have it. The leaders of the Democratic Party now officially
    and openly take the position that there is no competing interest in the
    abortion debate. Biden made that statement after referring to the target
    of an abortion as “a child” last week. Fetuses don’t matter until the >> woman carrying them says so, and no human life is involved other than
    the mother’s mental, emotional or career well-being. Schumer’s focus on >> rape and incest makes that clear: a gestating child’s life has no value
    if the manner in which it came into being involved a crime. All human
    life, however, has the same value regardless of its origins—at least to
    people who have an ethical value toward life. Slavers and slave-owners,
    in contrast, regarded the life of human being conceived by blacks as
    less than human. It’s a similar point of view.

    Biden’s statement, as usual of late, is a lie. The bill allows abortion
    at will well into the second trimester, and polls indicate that most
    Americans think abortion should only be legal within the first
    trimester. In the case of late-term abortion, a 2019 survey conducted by
    You.gov found that 66% of U.S. adults who identify as pro-choice
    opposed third-trimester abortions, with 68% oppose abortions the day
    before a baby is born.

    Yes, only 68%. 50 years of forced abortion sanctification has done that
    much damage to pro-abortion Americans.

    The applicable provision of the defeated bill prevents

    (9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the
    good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider,
    continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant
    patient’s life or health.

    The words are so vague they would allow a physician to interpret “life” >> as broadly as necessary (in good faith, of course, always good faith!)
    to justify killing a completely viable fetus, and “health” to include
    the mother’s emotional or mental health. Neither “Life” nor “Health” are
    defined by the bill. That’s not, as they say, a bug but a feature.

    Then the mainstream media set out to perform its function last night,
    lying outright about the bill and the vote. MSNBC claimed a “GOP
    filibuster” had “derail(ed)” a bill “to codify Roe v. Wade protections.”
    That’s bad even for MSNBC. There was no filibuster–the bill was shot
    down by majority vote. The bill also went far beyond Roe v. Wade. Was
    the MSNBC tweet announcing this fabricated version of the event pulled
    by Twitter “factcheckers”? Does a bear relieve itself in the AMEX
    executive washroom?

    The Associated Press’s Zeke Miller endorsed both of these lies, saying
    it was a GOP-led filibuster that defeated the thing, and describing the
    Democratic bill as being designed to turn Roe v. Wade into law. Facts
    Don’t Matter to these people.

    Neither, we now know, do human lives.

    Tragically, abortions continue to be the terrible consequence of http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) people misbehaving
    terribly like http://bit.ly/h_angry (2 Kings 6:29) DJT.

    Suggested further reading:
    https://tinyurl.com/Psalm0201

    The only healthy way to stop abortions is to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) instead.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and
    hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?


    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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