• Re: World's EASIEST solution for Palestine-Israel Conflict-- count the

    From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Tue Oct 10 00:08:26 2023
    Turning these ideas into AP's 260th book-- Solving the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict-- by voting their way out of violence.

    On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    World's EASIEST solution for Palestine-Israel Conflict-- count the votes by Palestinians in March 2 election of Gantz versus Netanyahu

    2-AP's Peace Plan for Palestine-Israel Peace Plan (far better than the Trump enslavement plan) // Science Council Ruling Earth rather than frail weak minds of dictators or democracies
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    me (Archimedes Plutonium change)
    Jan 29
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    Newsgroups: sci.physics
    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:53:54 -0800 (PST)
    Subject: AP's Peace Plan for Palestine-Israel Peace Plan (far better than the Trump enslavement plan) // Science Council Ruling Earth rather than frail weak minds of dictators or democracies
    From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium...@gmail.com>
    Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 06:53:54 +0000

    2-AP's Peace Plan for Palestine-Israel Peace Plan (far better than the Trump enslavement plan) // Science Council Ruling Earth rather than frail weak minds of dictators or democracies

    Alright, I was watching DW news tonight with Brent Goff talking about the Trump-Netanyahu Plan. And that plan is really a confiscation of all the most desirable land, leaving the Palestinians with deserts, no water, and underground tunnels to get
    around. Brent and the staff of DW is an excellent news agency, and Brent described this Trump plan as something you might see in a "science fiction", and I would say, a "science fiction horror movie" not a government plan for a race of people of the
    Palestinians. I mean, well, Trump treats the Palestinians as if they were what? For I see no glimmer of dignity for the Palestinians.

    Trump's plan in summary still leaves a Israeli occupation over Palestinians for they have no Airspace and their borders sealed. So, what is in it for the Palestinians-- nothing, but enslavement. And underground tunnels to get around in? And the
    stealing of all the land that is worthy.

    So, I like to offer AP's Peace Plan. A plan that gives "DIGNITY to a race of people, whose dignity has been denied and stripped of them, with decades of occupation and settlement incursions on their land.

    I propose that in the upcoming election between Benny Gantz and BB Netanyahu, coming up I believe in March, very soon indeed.

    That the entire Palestinian Peoples all rise up and vote on that very same day. Vote for either Gantz or Netanyahu. Vote on papers, so the Palestinian government or Authorities can collect all the ballots and if need be, deposit them in the
    International Courts.

    So, if all the Palestinians vote for Gantz, and he would win with that vote. But the Israeli Netanyahu government not recognize the Palestinian vote and run off and say that BB won, for he only won by suppression of the Occupied Palestinians.

    And here is where Abbas and the Palestinian Authority take all those paper votes and introduce them to the INTERNATIONAL COURTS as evidence. Evidence of a occupied people, stripped of rights and dignity, with no land to call home.

    Perhaps there is a law in International Laws that would dictate the Israeli's acknowledge the Palestinian votes of March 2020, and that Israel must accept those votes along with Israel's own votes. For there probably is something in International Laws,
    some precedent that forces Israel to accept the Palestinian votes on March 2020.

    Saying that because the Palestinians are an Occupied and put in slavery by Israel, that the Palestinians have no land for which the Occupiers of Israel deny them of human dignity and rights of votes.

    As long as Palestine is Occupied with no land, their rights of governance is denied them by Israel.

    So, on the very same day that Israel votes for either Gantz or Netanyahu, have elections in Palestine on paper ballots voting for either Gantz or Netanyahu.

    End this mockery of occupation, land stealing, and enslavement of a peoples.

    The USA seems to have not wanted to be a "fair broker" especially since Trump gained office.

    End the mockery, and let the International Courts settle this Palestine-Israel Conflict. USA seems unable to ever be a "fair broker", so let the International Court be the broker. And start that brokerage with the Israel March election.

    Have the Palestinians all vote in that same election in their occupied territories, vote either for Gantz or Netanyahu. And if Israel does not count your votes, then haul all the paper ballots to the International Court, and let them decide, who the
    next Prime Minister of Israel is on March 2020.

    The alternative then, is, Israel gives Palestinians all the West Bank and Gaza and removes the settlements, or, Palestine peoples will vote in every Israel election hence, forward.

    AP

    Newsgroups: sci.physics
    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 11:33:59 -0800 (PST)
    Subject: Please, Palestine, have one of your best allies draw up ballots, paper ballots, so that every Palestinian in the 2 March Israeli election can vote for either Gantz or Netanyahu // Science Council Ruling Earth
    From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium...@gmail.com>
    Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:33:59 +0000

    Please, Palestine, have one of your best allies draw up ballots, paper ballots, so that every Palestinian in the 2 March Israeli election can vote for either Gantz or Netanyahu // Science Council Ruling Earth

    Please, Palestine, have one of your best allies draw up ballots, paper ballots, so that every Palestinian in the 2 March Israeli election can vote for either Gantz or for Netanyahu. Have a place for the Palestinian voter to sign the ballot in case
    Israel does not want to recognize the vote. And if need be, to cart all the voted ballots to the International Court, in case Netanyahu tries to suppress and reject the votes.

    SAMPLE BALLOT (paper ballots)


    Vote for by circling your choice or by a checkmark by his name, or both circle and checkmark


    Benny Gantz



    Benjamin Netanyahu


    signature of voter in case he/she needs to be contacted by International Court of Justice


    On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:08:54 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote in sci.physics:

    Quoting Wikipedia—-

    In 1965 the Voting Rights Act (VRA) put an end to individual states' claims on whether or not Natives were allowed to vote through a federal law. Section 2 of the VRA states that, "No voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard,
    practice, or procedure, shall be imposed or applied by any State or political subdivision to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color".[60] Further sections describe the measures taken if
    violations to this act are discovered.

    However, efforts by states and municipalities to disenfranchise Native Americans are ongoing, such that there have been about 74 cases brought by or on behalf of Natives under the VRA or the Fourteenth or Fifteenth Amendment since 1965.[61] These in
    the most part have proved to be successful to upholding the rights of Native Americans as citizens of the United States. Most of these cases are centered on states that have large reservations, or Native populations, such as New Mexico, Arizona and
    Oklahoma.




    Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:43:37 -0800 (PST)
    From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
    To: Plutonium Atom Universe <plutonium-a...@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: The moment Israel has to allow the Palestinian votes into their general election, is the moment that Israel will look for peace in a two-state solution, otherwise...

    The moment Israel has to allow the Palestinian votes into their general election, is the moment that Israel will look for peace in a two-state solution, otherwise...

    Otherwise, Israel will just claw away, nibble and naw away every strip of land of the Palestinians until there is no more West Bank or Gaza. As long as Israel can elect people like Netanyahu, there never will be a two state solution.

    If Trump and Netanyahu had their wish, they would wish that cargo ships would dock at Israel ports and all Palestinians-- cattle prodded into boarding the ships and sent off to some remote spot on the globe. That is their solution.

    In a sense, history is reliving the past of the Americans with the problem they called the "Indians". And they rounded them up and sent them to far off reservations. Much like Israel occupation of West Bank. Make no mistake about it, West Bank is just
    a Indian Reservation of the 1800s.

    Finally, what gives dignity to the American Indian as gives dignity to all Americans, is the ability and RIGHT to Vote. That these people, have the same RESPECT, same Right to Vote as the Israeli who lives in Jerusalem or lives in Tel Aviv.

    If there is going to be a TWO STATE SOLUTION, it must start with getting the right to vote by Palestinians. So long as Israel elections are all about putting a PM in that continues to steal the land of West Bank, there will never be a two state
    solution.

    The very moment that the Palestinian Votes for either Gantz or Netanyahu in 2 March, 2020 are counted, is the very moment that Israel will be committed to a Peace between Palestinians and Israelis.

    AP
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    me (Archimedes Plutonium change)
    Jan 29 (23 hours ago)

    No warring, no fighting, no blockade, no territory stealing or swoping was ever going to bring Peace. The best way for Peace-- something as simple and sweet and innocent as VOTING.

    I think the International Laws can be construed to the effect "If you are a democratic nation and is occupying the lands of another people, that the occupier should be forced to allow those occupied people the right to vote in their General Election."
    I would almost bet that the International Laws are construed to that effect.

    It would mean that all the Palestinians occupied by the Democratic voting Israel are obliged by law to let the Palestinians vote on the 2 March 2020 election.

    Vote for either

    Benny Gantz


    or


    Benjamin Netanyahu

    And the Palestinian votes be counted.

    It would instantly give RESPECT and DIGNITY to all Palestinians, a respect and dignity denied them over these decades long occupation of their land, their homes, their freedoms.

    It would instantly cause the Israeli people to either go a Two State Solution in honesty, or, go the route of One and All Israel, but the Palestinians voting in elections.

    When you think about it-- Peace was never going to happen in Israel-Palestine, until the stark reality of Palestinians voting.

    No warring, no fighting, no blockade, no territory stealing or swoping was ever going to bring Peace.

    The best way for Peace-- something as simple and sweet and innocent as VOTING.

    AP



    me (Archimedes Plutonium change)
    Jan 29 (20 hours ago)

    Re: No warring, no fighting, no blockade, no territory stealing or swoping was ever going to bring Peace. The best way for Peace-- something as simple and sweet and innocent as VOTING.

    The Palestinian population is 5 million and the Israeli is 9 million. About 1 to 2 in voting numbers.

    AP



    me (Archimedes Plutonium change)
    Jan 29 (15 hours ago)

    Easiest way of solving Palestinian-Israel Conflict, give the Palestinians the right to vote in the 2 March Isreal election for either Gantz or Netanyahu

    The American Indian was treated horribly in human history by the white settlers, a painful horrible story of how people treat other people. And not until the American Indian was given equal rights in voting, voting for president, can we say, that the
    American Indian was shown respect, dignity as equals to others.

    Israel has occupied the Palestinians since 1967 to present. That is over 50 years of occupation, and Palestinians not given a right to vote. Not given dignity, not given respect, but rather a continual stealing away of the land promised to them for a
    homeland state.

    It is time this conflict is ended and to start the end of the conflict is to give Palestinians the right to vote in the March 2 Israel election between Benny Gantz and Benjamin Netanyahu.

    I propose the Palestinians get paper ballots and vote on the same day the Israelis vote, and sign their ballots and if Israel rejects their votes, submit all the ballots to the International Court of Justice.

    A people that are occupied and no voice in government, from a Democracy of Israel, seems like a crime, for without a voice, Israel has no reason to want peace, but rather to keep on stealing all Palestine land. And to give the Palestinians desert land
    near Gaza while Israel takes all the Jordan valley under the Trump plan, with Palestinians in underground tunnels, is more like a science fiction horror movie, than actual leaders of the USA making a legitimate proposal. Sounds like Trump wants to send
    the Palestinians to the Moon, rather than treat these people with respect and dignity.

    When Trump leaves office, why not swap his gold tower in New York City for a stretch of the Mojave desert. Give his Mare Lago to animal reserve and let Trump get around by underground tunnels when he has to go to the bathroom.

    AP


    Please, Palestine, have one of your best allies draw up ballots, paper ballots, so that every Palestinian in the 2 March Israeli election can vote for either Gantz or Netanyahu // Science Council Ruling Earth

    Please, Palestine, have one of your best allies draw up ballots, paper ballots, so that every Palestinian in the 2 March Israeli election can vote for either Gantz or for Netanyahu. Have a place for the Palestinian voter to sign the ballot in case
    Israel does not want to recognize the vote. And if need be, to cart all the voted ballots to the International Court, in case Netanyahu tries to suppress and reject the votes.

    SAMPLE BALLOT (paper ballots)


    Vote for by circling your choice or by a checkmark by his name, or both circle and checkmark


    Benny Gantz



    Benjamin Netanyahu


    signature of voter in case he/she needs to be contacted by International Court of Justice

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