• Re: Evidence suggestive of relativity.

    From Jaimie Poogelman@21:1/5 to Gary Harnagel on Fri Oct 6 16:03:38 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Gary Harnagel wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:21:02โ€ฏPM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
    Name one known scientists that 'believes' SR admits only to time travel
    into the future. Name one!

    " It is solutions that correspond to the world, not the equations
    themselves. IOW: it does not matter if physical models are invariant
    under time reversal if there is no possible way to implement it in the
    real world." -- T. J. Roberts

    yes indeed. You don't even know how many directions are in an arrow. If
    you travel faster then light, you are the first in the world I know,
    beating Entropy. You probably think with your ass.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jaimie Poogelman on Fri Oct 6 11:14:10 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:03:53โ€ฏAM UTC-7, Jaimie Poogelman wrote:
    Gary Harnagel wrote:

    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:21:02โ€ฏPM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
    Name one known scientists that 'believes' SR admits only to time travel >> into the future. Name one!

    " It is solutions that correspond to the world, not the equations themselves. IOW: it does not matter if physical models are invariant
    under time reversal if there is no possible way to implement it in the real world." -- T. J. Roberts

    yes indeed. You don't even know how many directions are in an arrow. If
    you travel faster then light, you are the first in the world I know,
    beating Entropy. You probably think with your ass.

    Light does not go faster than itself at its constant.
    The atom cannot catch up...

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  • From Lauren Bakanov@21:1/5 to Gary Harnagel on Sat Oct 7 12:50:24 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Gary Harnagel wrote:

    The only way to possibly get time travel into the past is to exceed the
    speed of light, e.g., if tachyons exist. I have shown that even if they
    did exist and could exceed the speed of light, a message could not be
    sent into one's own past. DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101. I suspect
    that similar limitations would apply to wormholes and warp metrics, see

    we agree. You modulate the tachyons to encapsulate a human. But

    Don't forget that the President of Ukraine ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ, his
    advisers ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜€๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—บ, and his chief of
    staff Ermak was the producer of this show. Now they are filming another
    show for you: in real time, as realistic and bloody as possible, until
    there is money or the last actor dies on air. Everything they do is just another part of the show. The explosion of the Crimean Bridge ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ
    ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐˜†, but allowed this picture to be broadcast on the
    covers of all news publications. Bombing nearby towns ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜
    ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐˜†, but it does create ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด
    ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด. Even ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒโ€™๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€ are also part of the show
    to pity the rest of the world.

    https://r%74.com/news/584209-french-mayor-zelensky-flag/

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  • From Lloyd Dogadaev@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Oct 14 18:22:47 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Why do you lie Smitch?
    You just don't like the truth. The liar lies and it is not me. Einstein
    didn't need relativity with its contradictions...

    Retrograde motion is a relative appearance caused by absolute motion of
    the planets.

    we agree. Gas planets are impossible. Jupiter is not a gas planet. Amazing these ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผnauts can be so stupid. ๐—š๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜€ my ass.

    they didn't land on any ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผ. ๐—”๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผnauts my ass. These americans don't know
    what ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผ stands for in physics. Here's another imbecile

    ๐—•๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ปโ€™๐˜€_๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜†_๐—ผ๐—ณ_๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ_๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€_๐—”๐˜๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ_๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—œ๐˜€๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฒ๐—น_โ€œ๐—œ๐˜€_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—˜๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜_๐—ผ๐—ณ_๐—ง๐—ฒ๐
    —ป_9/11๐˜€โ€ https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/bidens-secretary-of-state-says-attack-on- israel-is-the-equivalent-of-ten-9-11s/

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  • From Manoid Bakshtanowsky@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Oct 17 08:59:21 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 11:22:51โ€ฏAM UTC-7, Lloyd Dogadaev
    wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Why do you lie Smitch?
    You just don't like the truth. The liar lies and it is not me.
    Einstein didn't need relativity with its contradictions...

    Retrograde motion is a relative appearance caused by absolute motion
    of the planets.
    we agree. Gas planets are impossible. Jupiter is not a gas planet.
    Amazing these ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผnauts can be so stupid. ๐—š๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜€ my ass.

    You are the ass. Outer planets are gas.

    ohh really no shit. Your planet smells like ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜๐˜€, which is a ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜€. There are
    no outer planets. They must orbit. ๐—ฌ๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ. Here's another
    ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ธ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜‡๐—ฎ๐—ฟ ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜† ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ฎ, moved to america. You khazar goys must be
    thinking ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ณ๐—ฒ. There is no ๐—จ๐—ฆ, but the khazar
    goys of america.

    T๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—จ๐—ฆ_๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜€_๐—–๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฎ_๐—ผ๐—ณ_๐—ด๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—น_๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป._๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜โ€™๐˜€_๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ฐ
    Washington, ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฎ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ต, is warning the
    world about Beijingโ€™s โ€œliesโ€ https://r%74.com/news/584982-china-us-media-misinformation/

    Antony Blinken needs to remember, China has ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ 900 ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ
    ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ถ๐—ป 30 ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜€, while at the same time usa has killed ten upon tens of
    millions of innocent men women and children for oil, and in support of
    zionism.

    The ๐—˜๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—Ÿ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ accuses somebody of manipulation :)

    khazar goys of USA ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—น๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฑ 6 ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฉ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฒ.

    What was the excuse for USA to bomb Korea, what did they hypnotise their respective citizens with, 8yrs after WW2, USA instigates conflicts with
    every breath they take.

    fucking USA ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฎ ๐—”-๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฏ๐˜€. USA bombs civilian
    targets and says it happened in combat (ie see ๐—ฌ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜€๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฎ), ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ฟ ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ธ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜‡๐—ฎ๐—ฟ
    ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜† ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—บ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—น๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ต.

    All western enemy msm ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€ from one source that originates
    from USA/UK.

    Iraq had no WMD, everyone knew it back then, but USA wants to wage war ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ณ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ฟ ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐—ธ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜‡๐—ฎ๐—ฟ ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜† ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€.

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