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  • Re: Unfamiliar kana

    From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Sun Nov 19 15:33:12 2023
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
    I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
    ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.

    This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.

    "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
    indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
    あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
    indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 15:23:24 2023
    I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
    ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right. They look similar (in size , position and orientation) to the 2 small lines of じ , ぢ and various
    other kana. Can someone tell me what this is ? In case it helps , the text
    has 2 successive appearances of the kana.

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  • From Jim@21:1/5 to Stefan Ram on Mon Nov 20 15:29:10 2023
    On 19 Nov 2023 15:33:12 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:

    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
    I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like >>ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.

    This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.

    "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
    indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
    あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
    indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

    On a tangent, the dakuten also may be combined with Japanese vowels,
    also normally not so modified.

    https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16133-japanese-voiced-vowels.pdf

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Stefan Ram on Mon Nov 20 19:36:03 2023
    On 19 Nov 2023 15:33:12 GMT
    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
    I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like >ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.

    This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.

    "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
    indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
    あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
    indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

    ん゙ looks right , thanks.

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Stefan Ram on Mon Mar 4 15:39:16 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.japan

    On 11/19/2023 7:33 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
    I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
    ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.

    This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.



    "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
    indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
    あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
    indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia




    北斗の拳：独特の擬音「ひでぶ「あべしは当初誤字扱い


    　人気マンガ「北斗の拳で知られるマンガ家の原哲夫さんが8日、六本木ヒルズ（東京都港区）で開かれている「創刊50周年記念
    週刊少年ジャンプ展VOL.1内のイベント「レジェンドトークショーに登場した。原さんは「北斗の拳に出てくる有な擬音「ひでぶ「あべしが、編集者から当初「字が間違えている
    ！と指摘されたという“レジェンド”エピソードを明かした。

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