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    From Tilde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 23:00:38 2024
    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/lost-civilization-alphabet-social-media

    A sequence of letters belonging to an ancient
    alphabet has been discovered in a most unusual
    way — by someone scrolling through social media.

    The inscription, on a slate slab unearthed in
    Spain, is closely linked to the Phoenician
    alphabet, which was hugely influential on later
    writing systems including Latin, Spanish and
    English. Researchers hope that the finding will
    expand their understanding of a prosperous
    pre-Roman civilization’s writing system. Until
    now, only incomplete or poorly dated samples
    had been found. The Spanish National Research
    Council announced the discovery in a June 11
    press release.

    Earlier this month, Joan Ferrer i Jané, a
    software engineer based in Barcelona, was
    browsing updates on X, formerly Twitter, from an
    archaeological dig at Casas del Turuñuelo in
    southern Spain. Dating to the 5th century B.C.,
    the site is one of several connected with
    Tartessos. This civilization emerged in what is
    today southwestern Spain from the cultural
    exchange between the Iberian peninsula’s
    indigenous dwellers and Phoenician settlers who
    arrived around the 10th century B.C. Ancient
    Greek texts mention the existence of a city
    called Tartessos, which recent findings are
    revealing was in fact a complex culture with
    stunning material wealth due to abundant iron,
    silver and gold in the region. This
    civilization mysteriously disappeared towards
    the end of the 5th century B.C.
    ...

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  • From Aidan Kehoe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 08:04:03 2024
    Ar an ceathrú lá de mí Lúnasa, scríobh Tilde:

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/lost-civilization-alphabet-social-media

    A sequence of letters belonging to an ancient
    alphabet has been discovered in a most unusual
    way — by someone scrolling through social media.

    The inscription, on a slate slab unearthed in
    Spain, is closely linked to the Phoenician
    alphabet, which was hugely influential on later
    writing systems including Latin, Spanish and
    English. Researchers hope that the finding will
    expand their understanding of a prosperous
    pre-Roman civilization’s writing system. Until
    now, only incomplete or poorly dated samples
    had been found. The Spanish National Research
    Council announced the discovery in a June 11
    press release.

    Earlier this month, Joan Ferrer i Jané, a
    software engineer based in Barcelona, was
    browsing updates on X, formerly Twitter, from an
    archaeological dig at Casas del Turuñuelo in
    southern Spain. Dating to the 5th century B.C.,
    the site is one of several connected with
    Tartessos. This civilization emerged in what is
    today southwestern Spain from the cultural
    exchange between the Iberian peninsula’s
    indigenous dwellers and Phoenician settlers who
    arrived around the 10th century B.C. Ancient
    Greek texts mention the existence of a city
    called Tartessos, which recent findings are
    revealing was in fact a complex culture with
    stunning material wealth due to abundant iron,
    silver and gold in the region. This
    civilization mysteriously disappeared towards
    the end of the 5th century B.C.

    Gracías Tilde!

    The press release is here:

    https://www.csic.es/es/actualidad-del-csic/el-csic-investiga-un-abecedario-hallado-en-la-tablilla-de-pizarra-del-yacimiento-de-casas-del-turunuelo

    And an earlier press release regarding the initial discovery of the slate, with a bit more detail of the drawings:

    https://www.csic.es/es/actualidad-del-csic/investigadores-del-csic-hallan-escenas-de-guerreros-de-los-siglos-vi-v-ac-grabadas-en-una-placa-de-pizarra-en-el-yacimiento-tartesico-de-casas-del-turunuelo

    It calls Ferrer i Jané “an investigator affiliated with the LITTERA group of the Unversity of Barcelona,” so likely not (just) a software engineer.

    I’m sure PTD would have weighed in if Google Groups still spoke to Usenet; I have no insight myself into the details of Iberian Phoenician.

    --
    ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
    (C. Moore)

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Aidan Kehoe on Mon Aug 5 21:45:53 2024
    On 2024-08-05, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> wrote:

    I’m sure PTD would have weighed in if Google Groups still spoke to Usenet; I
    have no insight myself into the details of Iberian Phoenician.

    Note that Wikipedia has quite a bit of information on the Paleohispanic scripts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleohispanic_scripts

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Tilde@21:1/5 to Christian Weisgerber on Thu Aug 8 21:12:23 2024
    Christian Weisgerber wrote:
    On 2024-08-05, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> wrote:

    I’m sure PTD would have weighed in if Google Groups still spoke to Usenet; I
    have no insight myself into the details of Iberian Phoenician.

    Note that Wikipedia has quite a bit of information on the Paleohispanic scripts.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleohispanic_scripts

    Thanks, that provided some historical context.

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