• Re: Pieces and Tunes -- Composing in a dream

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Stefan Ram on Tue Jul 2 08:18:15 2024
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    On 7/2/2024 3:12 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote or quoted:
    |Is that a P D Q Bach piece?

    Two days ago, I heard a simple and beautiful slow piece, not
    too fast, with one and two voices (i.e., notes played at the
    same time) played on a classical guitar (with nylon strings).

    I thought that - if I would practice it carefully - I should be
    able to play that piece. I wanted to do this. Then, I woke up.
    It was a kind of an acoustic dream.


    i've had similar experience a few times....

    One time, it was so good that i hummed it into my PC.



    there are a few interesting cases where sleep played a crucial
    role in the creative process:

    Paul McCartney and "Yesterday": McCartney famously claims the
    melody for "Yesterday" came to him in a dream. He woke up with the song
    in his head, unsure if he'd actually written it or dreamt it. He
    presented it to friends and other musicians, concerned it might be a subconscious plagiarism, but no one recognized it. "Yesterday" became a
    massive hit for The Beatles.


    ---------- i guess George was once sued, and lost



    Niccolo Paganini and the Devil's Violin Concerto: This is more
    legend than fact, but the story goes that Paganini, a virtuoso violinist
    and composer, sold his soul to the devil in exchange for unmatched
    musical talent. One version of the legend claims he composed his most
    famous piece, the "Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Minor," in a dream after
    making the pact.



    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his Requiem: While not entirely
    composed in a dream, Mozart claimed the opening bars of his Requiem came
    to him in a dream, a premonition of his own death.

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  • From Tilde@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Fri Aug 23 23:09:18 2024
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    HenHanna wrote:
    On 7/2/2024 3:12 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote or quoted:
    |Is that a P D Q Bach piece?

       Two days ago, I heard a simple and beautiful slow piece, not
       too fast, with one and two voices (i.e., notes played at the
       same time) played on a classical guitar (with nylon strings).

       I thought that - if I would practice it carefully - I should be
       able to play that piece. I wanted to do this. Then, I woke up.
       It was a kind of an acoustic dream.

    i've had similar experience a few times....

                   One time, it was so good that  i hummed it into my PC.

        there are a few interesting cases where sleep played a crucial role in the creative process:

    Paul McCartney and "Yesterday":         McCartney famously claims the melody for "Yesterday" came to him in a dream. He woke up with the song
    in his head, unsure if he'd actually written it or dreamt it. He
    presented it to friends and other musicians, concerned it might be a subconscious plagiarism, but no one recognized it. "Yesterday" became a massive hit for The Beatles.

                  ---------- i guess George was once sued, and lost

    Niccolo Paganini and the Devil's Violin Concerto:     This is more
    legend than fact, but the story goes that Paganini, a virtuoso violinist
    and composer, sold his soul to the devil in exchange for unmatched
    musical talent. One version of the legend claims he composed his most
    famous piece, the "Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Minor," in a dream after
    making the pact.

    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his Requiem:       While not entirely composed in a dream, Mozart claimed the opening bars of his Requiem came
    to him in a dream, a premonition of his own death.

    Creativity, lucidity, in dreams is something that
    has been noted for some and is not limited to
    music - poetry like Coleridge's "Kubla Khan", Benson
    "The Phoenix".

    My favorite is Kekule's dream of the structure of
    benzene.

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Tilde on Thu Sep 5 18:44:06 2024
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    On 8/23/2024 10:09 PM, Tilde wrote:
    HenHanna wrote:
    On 7/2/2024 3:12 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote or quoted:
    |Is that a P D Q Bach piece?

       Two days ago, I heard a simple and beautiful slow piece, not
       too fast, with one and two voices (i.e., notes played at the
       same time) played on a classical guitar (with nylon strings).

       I thought that - if I would practice it carefully - I should be
       able to play that piece. I wanted to do this. Then, I woke up.
       It was a kind of an acoustic dream.

    i've had similar experience a few times....

                    One time, it was so good that  i hummed it into my PC.

    ;    there are a few interesting cases where sleep played a crucial >> role in the creative process:

    Paul McCartney and "Yesterday":         McCartney famously claims the
    melody for "Yesterday" came to him in a dream. He woke up with the
    song in his head, unsure if he'd actually written it or dreamt it. He
    presented it to friends and other musicians, concerned it might be a
    subconscious plagiarism, but no one recognized it. "Yesterday" became
    a massive hit for The Beatles.

                   ---------- i guess George was once sued, and lost

    Niccolo Paganini and the Devil's Violin Concerto:     This is more
    legend than fact, but the story goes that Paganini, a virtuoso
    violinist and composer, sold his soul to the devil in exchange for
    unmatched musical talent. One version of the legend claims he composed
    his most famous piece, the "Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Minor," in a
    dream after making the pact.

    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his Requiem:       While not entirely
    composed in a dream, Mozart claimed the opening bars of his Requiem
    came to him in a dream, a premonition of his own death.

    Creativity, lucidity, in dreams is something that
    has been noted for some and is not limited to
    music - poetry like Coleridge's "Kubla Khan", Benson
    "The Phoenix".

    My favorite is Kekule's dream of the structure of
    benzene.


    i read that Kekule story when i was maybe 11 ...

    Now it seems a bit too good to be true.

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