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"the only trace of [the Latin future tense] is one form, in one
language, with a different function, namely Spanish eres ‘you are’ (sing.), "
Fascinating!
On 2024-03-31, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
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"the only trace of [the Latin future tense] is one form, in one
language, with a different function, namely Spanish eres ‘you are’
(sing.), "
Fascinating!
To the degree that the Latin verb system made it into the Romance
languages, Spanish has preserved the endings fairly well. The most
glaring difference is the loss of final -t. That of course turned
"es/est" into "es/es", so it is not surprising that a new form was
found to disambiguate second from third person. I thought "eres"
was influenced by the imperfect, but a borrowing from the future
tense is plausible.
To the degree that the Latin verb system made it into the Romance
languages, Spanish has preserved the endings fairly well. The most
glaring difference is the loss of final -t. That of course turned
"es/est" into "es/es", so it is not surprising that a new form was
found to disambiguate second from third person. I thought "eres"
was influenced by the imperfect, but a borrowing from the future
tense is plausible.
I find those equally [un]likely as a simple duplication "eses" ...
"eres" through rhotacism or what's it called.
There's also the plural "sois" that's different, sounds like due to some 'regularisation' sumus, *sutis*, sunt?
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"the only trace of [the Latin future tense] is one form, in one
language, with a different function, namely Spanish eres ‘you are’ >(sing.), "
Fascinating! What about Portuguese 'es'? Is it an exact copy of the
Latin word, or also eris or eres with a later elided r? >https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eres#Spanish
Sun, 31 Mar 2024 11:21:23 +0200: Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
scribeva:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2166033293623124/posts/4074111876148580
"the only trace of [the Latin future tense] is one form, in one
language, with a different function, namely Spanish eres ‘you are’
(sing.), "
Fascinating! What about Portuguese 'es'? Is it an exact copy of the
Latin word, or also eris or eres with a later elided r?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eres#Spanish
I meant és, of course, in the correct spelling. Second person singular
of the verb 'ser'. Qual a etimologia?
Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
Sun, 31 Mar 2024 11:21:23 +0200: Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
scribeva:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2166033293623124/posts/4074111876148580
"the only trace of [the Latin future tense] is one form, in one
language, with a different function, namely Spanish eres ‘you are’
(sing.), "
Fascinating! What about Portuguese 'es'? Is it an exact copy of the
Latin word, or also eris or eres with a later elided r?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eres#Spanish
I meant és, of course, in the correct spelling. Second person singular
of the verb 'ser'. Qual a etimologia?
I find it complicated that it would be anything other than the normal >evolution of latin 'es', but I haven't read on the subject.
I find it complicated that it would be anything other than the normal >>evolution of latin 'es', but I haven't read on the subject.
How would ‘es’ keep its s,
when ‘est’ lost the t AND the s?
On 2024-04-07, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
[Portuguese "és"]
I find it complicated that it would be anything other than the normal >>>evolution of latin 'es', but I haven't read on the subject.
How would ‘es’ keep its s,
The same way other second person forms keep their -s:
Final -s is conserved from Latin to Portuguese.
when ‘est’ lost the t AND the s?
Not a regular sound change. Given it's extremely high frequency,
an irregular reduction isn't that surprising. And again, the 2./3.
person clash after regular loss of -t had to be resolved in some
way.
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