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    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 12:11:35 2024
    The only Scots writer most people have heard of.
    Two or three generations later than Ramsay (see 7 January).

    Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
    Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
    Aboon them a' ye take your place,
    Painch, tripe, or thairm:
    Weel are ye wordy o' a grace
    As lang's my arm.

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  • From Aidan Kehoe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 13:36:09 2024
    Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Eanair, scríobh Ross Clark:

    The only Scots writer most people have heard of.
    Two or three generations later than Ramsay (see 7 January).

    Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
    Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
    Aboon them a' ye take your place,
    Painch, tripe, or thairm:
    Weel are ye wordy o' a grace
    As lang's my arm.

    I was a week in Scotland in my life, in Edinburgh, I have had very little to do with the Scots of Scotland. I’ve been in Northern Ireland a good deal, though,
    from 2015 onwards, and have dealt with farmers of Presbyterian stock quite a bit. There’s very little of what heard that I would have found unintelligible despite growing up with very little exposure to it; while you can hear Scotland in the accent, more noticeably the closer to the coast you get, grammar and syntax
    is (IMO) fairly close to standard English. Plenty of Scots vocabulary though, “thran” (stubborn) “bealing” (weeping pus) are two that stick in my mind at the
    moment. Maybe I’ve been missing the proper culchies?!.

    Is there any of Scotland to be heard in NZ? Settlement was very heavy on Scots if I remember correctly.

    --
    ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
    (C. Moore)

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to Aidan Kehoe on Tue Jan 30 12:00:26 2024
    On 27/01/2024 2:36 a.m., Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Eanair, scríobh Ross Clark:

    > The only Scots writer most people have heard of.
    > Two or three generations later than Ramsay (see 7 January).
    >
    > Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
    > Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
    > Aboon them a' ye take your place,
    > Painch, tripe, or thairm:
    > Weel are ye wordy o' a grace
    > As lang's my arm.

    I was a week in Scotland in my life, in Edinburgh, I have had very little to do
    with the Scots of Scotland. I’ve been in Northern Ireland a good deal, though,
    from 2015 onwards, and have dealt with farmers of Presbyterian stock quite a bit. There’s very little of what heard that I would have found unintelligible
    despite growing up with very little exposure to it; while you can hear Scotland
    in the accent, more noticeably the closer to the coast you get, grammar and syntax
    is (IMO) fairly close to standard English. Plenty of Scots vocabulary though, “thran” (stubborn) “bealing” (weeping pus) are two that stick in my mind at the
    moment. Maybe I’ve been missing the proper culchies?!.

    Is there any of Scotland to be heard in NZ? Settlement was very heavy on Scots
    if I remember correctly.

    I wish I could answer that clearly and definitively.
    One thing everybody knows is that there is an island of rhoticity in the
    south of the South Island, which is generally attributed to Scottish settlement. There are probably some lexical items as well, but I can't
    find (or make up) a general statement about it.

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