On Fri, 22nd Mar 2024 09:28:07 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
The simplest answer for you is to purchase a a copy of
Garmin TOPO U.S. 2008
Are you sure, this will still work? Garmin Topo Maps (as well as
Garmin PC software like Garmin Mobile PC) needed to be unlocked
online. And Garmin shut down their activation servers _ages_ ago.
(Without the least concern about and compassion with their paying customers...) We have 15 Topo2010 Germany here, which have been
worthless junk since about 2013, IIRC.
Bernd Rose wrote:
On Fri, 22nd Mar 2024 09:28:07 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
The simplest answer for you is to purchase a a copy of
Garmin TOPO U.S. 2008
Are you sure, this will still work? Garmin Topo Maps (as well as
Garmin PC software like Garmin Mobile PC) needed to be unlocked
online. And Garmin shut down their activation servers _ages_ ago.
(Without the least concern about and compassion with their paying
customers...) We have 15 Topo2010 Germany here, which have been
worthless junk since about 2013, IIRC.
I just installed Garmin TOPO U.S. 2008 on a new computer about 2
months ago without a problem. I do not remember having any issues
and installed it on my D: partition.
<Bill>
I should have added I do have an original TOPO U.S. 2008 DVD I purchased a long time ago and this may have made a difference.
You would think every topo map program would handle geocalibrated PDFs
since every single inch of the USA has a free detailed geoPDF, most dating back to more than a hundred years & constantly forever updated ever since. https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-do-i-find-and-download-us-topo-and-historical-topographic-htmc-maps
On Mon, 25th Mar 2024 15:06:03 -0400, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
Exactly as I expected: Long winding discussion with no prospect of
getting to the target, eventually. Despite my initial statement I'll
give you some pointers before the matter drifts even further away...
Much more of a problem, though, is the rendering of map captions,
legend, and so on right into the raster layer. As long as you only
view one tile (aka one GeoPdf file) at any given time, this is just a nuisance. But if you want to load several tiles alongside each other,
you admittedly can make the white background of the map tile border transparent. But the legend entries and the like will still overlap
parts of the adjacent map tiles. - Instead of the map you'll see just
legend text...
I stitch USGS maps together after converting them to tiff. I have a
program that lets me crop the borders off of the tiff.
What are you using to make the borders transparent and could you outline
the process?
And here I am explaining ways to do what I recommended /not/ to do. Always the same in these discussions about USGS topo maps. :-(
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:54:10 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I stitch USGS maps together after converting them to tiff. I have a
program that lets me crop the borders off of the tiff.
Why would you do this, when you can download them borderless in the
first place?? The tiles inside the KMZ format are already borderless.
What are you using to make the borders transparent and could you
outline the process?
Not the whole border, just the white background. There are several
ways, from selecting a color to be NoData inside the GIS program, to
using
gdal or even an image manipulation tool like image magick or graphics
magick to define a transparency mask. Probably the easiest way to make
the white background transparent is setting "srcnodata" when creating
a large virtual raster file from all the single tiles with
gdalbuildvrt:
https://gdal.org/programs/gdalbuildvrt.html
OTOH, you could forgo transparency completely, though, by using
gdalbuildvrt with suitable "te" parameters. You get the boundary
parameters from the doc.kml file inside each KMZ variant. But again,
why would you go this way, when you could have used KMZ in the first
place?
And here I am explaining ways to do what I recommended /not/ to do.
Always the same in these discussions about USGS topo maps. :-(
Bernd
Bernd Rose wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:54:10 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I stitch USGS maps together after converting them to tiff. I have a
program that lets me crop the borders off of the tiff.
Why would you do this, when you can download them borderless in the
first place?? The tiles inside the KMZ format are already borderless.
Bernd
I did not realize there were borderless files in the KMZ. I will
start by looking at these. I have saved your followup message.
<Bill>
So I went to USGS viewer to download a topo as a quadrangle as a KMZ. But only was given the options of geopdf or tif. I am waiting for them send me the tif and I hope it is actually the KMZ file. Have I missed something?
On Wed, 27th Mar 2024 12:09:13 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
So I went to USGS viewer to download a topo as a quadrangle as a
KMZ. But only was given the options of geopdf or tif. I am waiting
for them send me the tif and I hope it is actually the KMZ file.
Have I missed something?
Waiting to send?? Did you go to the website I suggested:
https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer
You should see an overview of the map of North America with US
territory highlighted in light red. On the left side is a bar
containing basic navigation controls; and on the right side is a (retractable) settings and selection panel. If in retracted state you
should see a small black area with white arrowhead in the upper right
corner of the map window. Click there to get the panel back to
visible state.
Zoom to your area of interest and click in the center of this area.
You now should see a selection frame on the map and a list of all
available themes in the panel on the right side. You can use the
filter options of the panel (map creation time, reference scale and
theme) to reduce the list to the most relevant maps. For instance:
Show only maps from 1990 or newer, reference scale 24k, and UST (= US
Topo Collection).
If only one map fits your conditions, its entry will be expanded.
Else, just the first entry in the list will be expanded. If you want
another map from the list, select it. This focus map entry should now
be shown in expanded state, revealing the download options and other functions. Click the preferred download option (KMZ in this case) and
a SaveAs dialog should show up, enabling you to save the zipped KMZ
file(s) for your selection.
If you don't see these options, you may need to change your browser or
check its settings. (JavaScript, Cookies, and the like may be
relevant.)
Bernd
[...]Did you go to the website I suggested:
https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer
I missed that it was not USGS site.
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