• GPS Stash Hunt... Stash #1 is there!

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 09:12:58 2017
    On 2017-10-01 08:44, jaxxogilvie@googlemail.com wrote:

    Stupid ass activity that.

    Try this instead and exercise your brain: https://orienteeringusa.org/content/city-trees-orienteering-club

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  • From jaxxogilvie@googlemail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 05:44:19 2017
    N45 17.460 W112 24.800

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  • From jaxxogilvie@googlemail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 14 02:33:23 2018
    Where?

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  • From sistereinstein@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Dave on Sat Jun 23 02:33:31 2018
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

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    Thank you sir for your foresight and creating a hobby loved by many.

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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to sistereinstein@gmail.com on Mon Jul 2 17:30:33 2018
    On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 02:33:31 -0700 (PDT), sistereinstein@gmail.com wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

    * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!


    Thank you sir for your foresight and creating a hobby loved by many.

    After 18 years Dave's food must be a bit suspect.

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  • From polkadottedpinky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 1 18:39:28 2018
    You have no idea how grateful I am for this email.

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  • From paul@reid-family.org@21:1/5 to Dave on Tue Jan 14 09:00:32 2020
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

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    THANK YOU

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  • From Reinhard Zwirner@21:1/5 to paul@reid-family.org on Wed Jan 15 01:13:54 2020
    paul@reid-family.org schrieb:
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

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    THANK YOU

    Wow! I do hope the original poster will read this answer nearly 20
    years after writing his post ...

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Reinhard Zwirner on Wed Jan 15 13:15:17 2020
    Reinhard Zwirner <reinhard.zwirner@t-online.de> wrote:

    paul@reid-family.org schrieb:
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

    * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion
    Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in
    Usenet - Free!

    THANK YOU

    Wow! I do hope the original poster will read this answer nearly 20
    years after writing his post ...

    Don't worry, the stash will no doubt be still there...

    Jan

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  • From Hans-Georg Michna@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 19:05:33 2020
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:

    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

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    Remarkable! I seem to remember that in those days the word
    geocache was barely known.

    In June 2000 I put one of the earliest geocaches on the equator,
    right where it crosses the 36° east meridian. Nowadays it is
    called a virtual geocache or, in this special case, a
    confluence. It is most likely the first geocache that was put on
    the equator at:

    N 0° 0.000', E 036° 0.000'

    On https://www.geocaching.com/ it bears the name "Rift Valley"
    and the code GC53.

    https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC53

    Hans-Georg

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to paul@reid-family.org on Fri Jan 17 17:01:43 2020
    On 2020-01-14 12:00, paul@reid-family.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 3, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dave wrote:
    Well, I did it, created the first stash hunt stash and here are
    the coordinates:

    N 45 17.460
    W122 24.800

    Lots of goodies for the finders. Look for a black plastic bucket
    buried most of the way in the ground. Take some stuff, leave
    some stuff! Record it all in the log book. Have Fun!

    Stash contians: Delorme Topo USA software, videos, books, food,
    money, and a slingshot!

    * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

    THANK YOU

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

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  • From dold@10.usenet.us.com@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Jan 18 05:40:17 2020
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.
    Recreation: map and compass.

    While in Mongolia, I told my driver that I wanted to visit a confluence.

    He had no maps, but he did call it a "map cross".
    Later, while driving on a plateau, he said we were getting close, as he looked at the mountains on all sides of us.

    Navigation by mountain ridges. No compass, no maps. No roads.

    --
    Clarence A Dold - Santa Rosa, CA, USA GPS: 38.47,-122.65

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  • From Hans-Georg Michna@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Jan 18 13:04:22 2020
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

    Hmm, perhaps the aeroplane ruins your natural jumping skills.

    Bicycles, motorbikes, and, even worse, cars ruin your running
    skills.

    Books, not to mention computers, and particularly things like
    Wikipedia ruin your memory skills.

    Do forks and knives or chop sticks ruin your eating skills?

    Looking back to stone age, even the first weapons ever invented,
    like stones, clubs, hand-axes, spears, bows and arrows ruined
    our forebears' hand-fighting skills. (Nowadays some people even
    have guns.)

    Glasses ruin your seeing skills. (Oops, that may actually be
    true sometimes. :-)

    Please add more examples, everyone! It's fun.

    Hans

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Hans-Georg Michna on Sat Jan 18 13:31:01 2020
    Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

    Hmm, perhaps the aeroplane ruins your natural jumping skills.

    Bicycles, motorbikes, and, even worse, cars ruin your running
    skills.

    Books, not to mention computers, and particularly things like
    Wikipedia ruin your memory skills.

    Do forks and knives or chop sticks ruin your eating skills?

    Looking back to stone age, even the first weapons ever invented,
    like stones, clubs, hand-axes, spears, bows and arrows ruined
    our forebears' hand-fighting skills. (Nowadays some people even
    have guns.)

    Glasses ruin your seeing skills. (Oops, that may actually be
    true sometimes. :-)

    Please add more examples, everyone! It's fun.

    Hans

    Yeah. Great German humour,

    Jan

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to dold@10.usenet.us.com on Sat Jan 18 10:05:11 2020
    On 2020-01-18 00:40, dold@10.usenet.us.com wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.
    Recreation: map and compass.

    While in Mongolia, I told my driver that I wanted to visit a confluence.

    He had no maps, but he did call it a "map cross".
    Later, while driving on a plateau, he said we were getting close, as he looked at the mountains on all sides of us.

    Navigation by mountain ridges. No compass, no maps. No roads.

    That's local information. Which is great.

    But I worry about people's basic orientation, map reading and navigation skills.

    I'd be a lot more impressed if people found caches w/o GPS. I suppose
    such a "sport" could be invented. Perhaps call it:

    -Orienteering or
    -Rogaine

    And people would participate all over the world, and ...

    Ah, I'm dreaming!

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hans-Georg Michna on Sat Jan 18 10:06:33 2020
    On 2020-01-18 07:04, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

    Hmm, perhaps the aeroplane ruins your natural jumping skills.

    You're an idiot on most NG's, and staying true to form.

    As a matter of fact I don't jump out of perfectly functioning airplanes
    and I'm quite skilled at navigating them with compass, map and watch.
    For that matter I used to teach those skills.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Sat Jan 18 10:07:15 2020
    On 2020-01-18 07:31, J. J. Lodder wrote:


    Yeah. Great German humour,

    For very low values of "Great" and zero value of "humour".

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  • From Hans-Georg Michna@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Jan 19 13:36:56 2020
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:06:33 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    On 2020-01-18 07:04, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

    Hmm, perhaps the aeroplane ruins your natural jumping skills.

    You're an idiot on most NG's, and staying true to form.

    As a matter of fact I don't jump out of perfectly functioning airplanes
    and I'm quite skilled at navigating them with compass, map and watch.
    For that matter I used to teach those skills.

    I admit, for me it's easy to say these things. I have crossed
    the entire continent of Africa twice in the pilot's seat of my
    Cessna 172 before the GPS was even invented. So I know what I'm
    talking about and I necessarily had to master map and compass
    navigation.

    But I also admit that I prefer the new Cessna 172 SP with the
    Garmin G1000 avionics that I fly these days. I hold pilot
    workshops for it.

    It is interesting to think about what pilots should be able to
    do nowadays. Of course they have to have the capability to
    navigate by map and compass, but what I keep seeing is that
    pilots have too little knowledge about the new systems to
    utilize them fully. The question is, what gives them more
    safety, learning more about classic map, compass, and radio
    navigation or learning more about the glass cockpits they use?
    They cannot always do both. Looking at accident statistics,
    there are indications that certain types of accidents are more
    typical of glass cockpits, and quite possibly caused by a
    misalignment between the new technology and the pilot's ability
    to put the new GPS-based devices to full and proper use.

    It is, of course, easy to say that the pilot should always fall
    back on map and compass in any difficult situation, but that
    doesn't cut it. Pilots can get into poor visibility or into
    areas lacking landmarks and radio nav-aids, where their classic
    navigation skills don't help them much. I still remember looking
    out for fires to get an idea about the wind to aid
    dead-reckoning. But such situations are where GPS technology is
    far superior and can greatly lighten the workload of the pilot
    and increase safety.

    It is always easy to say that pilots should know both means of
    navigation perfectly, but in practice this will never be the
    case. Private pilots will not be able to expend the time and
    effort to know all the old and the new methods to perfection.
    Therefore it is quite possible that the optimum is to know just
    sufficient classic navigation to get by and put more effort into
    mastering the glass cockpit, if this means fewer accidents and
    more successful flights. The truth is rarely black and white.

    I have been in situations where the GPS made VFR flights
    possible that I could not have done without GPS. A simple
    example is deteriorating visibility, where you have sufficient
    view of the ground to keep flying, but insufficient information
    to determine precisely where you are. In such situations the
    classic navigations skills will certainly keep you alive and
    allow you to safely return to your point of departure, but they
    will not allow you to land at a much more convenient small
    airfield nearby, because without GPS you simply cannot find it.
    I have been in exactly this situation, and the GPS saved me
    countless hours of unnecessary flying. (The small airfield was
    Mweiga, Kenya.)

    In short, I am sure that just insisting on perfect mastery of
    the old methods and discounting the new ones is not optimal.

    Hans

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hans-Georg Michna on Sun Jan 19 12:17:10 2020
    On 2020-01-19 07:36, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:06:33 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    On 2020-01-18 07:04, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:01:43 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    Shit on that. Ruins navigation skills.

    Recreation: map and compass.

    Fuck Geo-caching.

    Hmm, perhaps the aeroplane ruins your natural jumping skills.

    You're an idiot on most NG's, and staying true to form.

    As a matter of fact I don't jump out of perfectly functioning airplanes
    and I'm quite skilled at navigating them with compass, map and watch.
    For that matter I used to teach those skills.

    I admit, for me it's easy to say these things. I have crossed
    the entire continent of Africa twice in the pilot's seat of my

    In short, I am sure that just insisting on perfect mastery of
    the old methods and discounting the new ones is not optimal.

    In short, you completely missed the point and posted a self-interest
    piece in its place.

    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce. Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods. There's that.

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  • From Hans-Georg Michna@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Mon Jan 20 17:18:04 2020
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce. Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods. There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Hans

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  • From Terje Mathisen@21:1/5 to Hans-Georg Michna on Mon Jan 20 17:38:12 2020
    Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce. Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods. There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Because it is systematic littering?

    I.e. pretty much all geocaches are physical, which means that somebody
    have hidden a box, typically plastic, at the site.

    Terje

    --
    - <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
    "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hans-Georg Michna on Mon Jan 20 13:52:04 2020
    On 2020-01-20 11:18, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce. Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods. There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    No challenge to the brain box.

    I'd grant it's slightly better than Pokemon live (whatever the fuck it's called) where people capture virtual thises-and-that's out there in the
    wild. (Drove the Canadian military bonkers for a while as people
    climbed fences at secure bases ...)

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Terje Mathisen on Mon Jan 20 13:53:37 2020
    On 2020-01-20 11:38, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce.  Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods.  There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Because it is systematic littering?

    I.e. pretty much all geocaches are physical, which means that somebody
    have hidden a box, typically plastic, at the site.

    Good point.

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  • From jacob29687@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Mon Jan 20 21:16:08 2020
    On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-01-20 11:38, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce.  Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods.  There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Because it is systematic littering?

    I.e. pretty much all geocaches are physical, which means that somebody have hidden a box, typically plastic, at the site.

    Good point.

    Ok boomer

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  • From Hans-Georg Michna@21:1/5 to Terje Mathisen on Wed Jan 22 18:16:24 2020
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 17:38:12 +0100, Terje Mathisen wrote:

    Hans-Georg Michna wrote:

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Because it is systematic littering?

    I.e. pretty much all geocaches are physical, which means that somebody
    have hidden a box, typically plastic, at the site.

    Well, that is formally true, but you have to admit that the
    littering does not disturb, because the caches are invisible to
    the general public.

    And they are usually well-maintained. If a geocache is disused,
    the owner will remove it. If not, sooner or later probably a
    non-geocaching kid will find the cache and take it home. "Look,
    ma, what I found!"

    I think to call geocaching littering is a bit far-fetched
    anyway. Geocaches represent such an extremely tiny fraction of
    all garbage on our planet that it is a bit preposterous to count
    them at all. We are living in a landfill economy.

    On the plus side, they are a good thing for example for
    families, because they introduce kids and adults to nature and
    to technology at the same time. Some geocaches even have an
    explicit educational purpose.

    There are very many things that should be criticized long before
    geocaching.

    Hans-Georg

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to jacob29687@gmail.com on Fri Jan 24 09:41:43 2020
    On 2020-01-21 00:16, jacob29687@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-01-20 11:38, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:17:10 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
    ...
    To think that geo-caching is of any value to anyone is an absolute
    farce.  Well I suppose it gets lazy minded people off their butts
    looking for a bucket in the woods.  There's that.

    Geo-caching is a game. Why should geocaching have less value
    than any other game?

    Because it is systematic littering?

    I.e. pretty much all geocaches are physical, which means that somebody
    have hidden a box, typically plastic, at the site.

    Good point.

    Ok boomer

    I've been fighting trash, pollution, waste, plastic, emissions all my
    life and I still am. So take that tired retort and shove it where it
    belongs.

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  • From Rexma@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 11 15:10:21 2020
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Rexma on Sat Sep 12 11:06:59 2020
    On 2020-09-11 18:10, Rexma wrote:
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers


    Go Orienteering. Better for both mind and body.

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  • From Terje Mathisen@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Sep 13 15:30:59 2020
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-11 18:10, Rexma wrote:
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers


    Go Orienteering.  Better for both mind and body.

    Indeed.

    Orienteering was the only sport that never had to close down completely
    this spring, in fact we had a huge growth in recreational orienteers ("Tur-orientering") this spring/summer.

    Individual orienteering is of course the "most socially distanced" sport
    ever, it even says so in the rule book, i.e. you cannot follow anyone
    else within sight distance. :-)

    Terje

    --
    - <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
    "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Terje Mathisen on Sun Sep 13 12:19:33 2020
    On 2020-09-13 09:30, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-11 18:10, Rexma wrote:
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers


    Go Orienteering.  Better for both mind and body.

    Indeed.

    Orienteering was the only sport that never had to close down completely
    this spring, in fact we had a huge growth in recreational orienteers ("Tur-orientering") this spring/summer.

    It's open here but I haven't gone. Too many restrictions (need to
    reserve for a particular 30 minute slot), no electronic tags at
    checkpoints (no idea why), so it's honor system and/or record your track.


    Individual orienteering is of course the "most socially distanced" sport ever, it even says so in the rule book, i.e. you cannot follow anyone
    else within sight distance. :-)

    Hard to avoid following someone on a trail who is slower than you are -
    you'll be following for some portion of time ...

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Terje Mathisen@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Sep 15 10:24:42 2020
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-13 09:30, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-11 18:10, Rexma wrote:
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers


    Go Orienteering.  Better for both mind and body.

    Indeed.

    Orienteering was the only sport that never had to close down
    completely this spring, in fact we had a huge growth in recreational
    orienteers ("Tur-orientering") this spring/summer.

    It's open here but I haven't gone.  Too many restrictions (need to
    reserve for a particular 30 minute slot), no electronic tags at
    checkpoints (no idea why), so it's honor system and/or record your track.

    The first race I organized back in April used no punching, just flags
    (which you should pass very close to without touching), and then the
    results were based on either personally reported times ("honor system"),
    or for most of the participants, by uploading their track log to
    LiveLox: https://www.livelox.com/Events/Show/47104/OBIK-P1

    People were allowed to start at any time within a 2-week period, so very
    rarely more than one or two runners in the forest at the same time.


    Individual orienteering is of course the "most socially distanced"
    sport ever, it even says so in the rule book, i.e. you cannot follow
    anyone else within sight distance. :-)

    Hard to avoid following someone on a trail who is slower than you are - you'll be following for some portion of time ...

    Passing people is of course OK. :-)

    In Norwegian terrain you would spend very little time running on paths
    anyway, and different courses would share zero to very few legs.

    Terje

    --
    - <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
    "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Terje Mathisen on Sat Sep 19 13:14:41 2020
    On 2020-09-15 04:24, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-13 09:30, Terje Mathisen wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2020-09-11 18:10, Rexma wrote:
    Wow, this post is history. Wowzers


    Go Orienteering.  Better for both mind and body.

    Indeed.

    Orienteering was the only sport that never had to close down
    completely this spring, in fact we had a huge growth in recreational
    orienteers ("Tur-orientering") this spring/summer.

    It's open here but I haven't gone.  Too many restrictions (need to
    reserve for a particular 30 minute slot), no electronic tags at
    checkpoints (no idea why), so it's honor system and/or record your track.

    The first race I organized back in April used no punching, just flags
    (which you should pass very close to without touching), and then the
    results were based on either personally reported times ("honor system"),
    or for most of the participants, by uploading their track log to
    LiveLox: https://www.livelox.com/Events/Show/47104/OBIK-P1

    People were allowed to start at any time within a 2-week period, so very rarely more than one or two runners in the forest at the same time.

    I don't see why using an electronic tag is an issue. Very little
    contact and it is very brief. Not like you smell it afterwards.



    Individual orienteering is of course the "most socially distanced"
    sport ever, it even says so in the rule book, i.e. you cannot follow
    anyone else within sight distance. :-)

    Hard to avoid following someone on a trail who is slower than you are
    - you'll be following for some portion of time ...

    Passing people is of course OK. :-)

    In Norwegian terrain you would spend very little time running on paths anyway, and different courses would share zero to very few legs.

    On some courses here you are rarely out of the woods so the undergrowth determines route choice. Most courses seem about 70-90% woods though
    some are closer to 50/50.

    The organizers, of course, put as many checkpoints in the woods as
    possible (except beginner level). So you have to quickly decide on
    bushwhack or trail or the right mix.

    Often you can't see a CP until within 10 - 20 metres.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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