• Re: tRump jobs plan

    From glen moore@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 10:16:10 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- that
    would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to ship
    jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a military perspective.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to glen moore on Wed May 8 10:05:18 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    "glen moore" <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in message news:9d16f6f142c494707a7bd33b367e3f01@dizum.com...
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- that
    would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to ship
    jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a military perspective.

    Or trying to touch of the 2nd civil war.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to glen moore on Wed May 8 14:40:44 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    glen moore <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in news:9d16f6f142c494707a7bd33b367e3f01@dizum.com:

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- that
    would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to ship
    jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected will drive inflation to double digits.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 11:35:42 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:v1g2tc$s58$2@dont-email.me...
    glen moore <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in news:9d16f6f142c494707a7bd33b367e3f01@dizum.com:

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
    news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- that
    would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to ship
    jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget, with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who is elected in November
    because the events for next year have already been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame Biden
    because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed May 8 17:13:24 2024
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:v1g64p$1l44$2@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:v1g2tc$s58$2@dont-email.me...
    glen moore <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in
    news:9d16f6f142c494707a7bd33b367e3f01@dizum.com:

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
    news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer --
    that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to
    ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected will
    drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget, with
    the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we can
    pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who is
    elected in November because the events for next year have already been
    set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame Biden
    because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    And the only time the Repugs yell about the national debt is when a Dem
    is president - otherwise, it's time for Tax Breaks for the Rich, and to
    hell with the debt.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 13:45:52 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:v1gbrk$31hp$1@dont-email.me...
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    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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    glen moore <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
    news:v15i63$18lsn$2@dont-email.me:


    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer --
    that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier to
    ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected will
    drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget, with
    the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we can
    pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who is
    elected in November because the events for next year have already been
    set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame Biden
    because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to reduce inflation?

    What you talking about isn't a reduction of inflation.. but simply kicking
    the can down the road so we can have an ever greater rate of inflation
    later.

    And the only time the Repugs yell about the national debt is when a Dem
    is president - otherwise, it's time for Tax Breaks for the Rich, and to
    hell with the debt.

    Maybe you think that, but frankly I would love to see a freeze on taxation.
    A mandatory spending limit of 90% of the revenue anytime the national debt exceeds 10% of the GDP, and penalties for the President, Vice President and Congress if the national debt exceeds 20%, which could include their removal from office.

    Because we have NO sound federal fiscal policy, Tax and Spend is NOT a sustainable system.

    We currently are one of the top 10 MOST indebted nations on the planet based
    on our National Debt to GDP ratio. This doesn't even consider our State and Local governmental debt, much less personal debt.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed May 8 20:04:07 2024
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    glen moore <gmoore@twc.com> wrote in
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
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    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer --
    that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier
    to ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected
    will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget,
    with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we
    can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who
    is elected in November because the events for next year have already
    been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame
    Biden because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure. 'Course you don't have brains to
    understand how that works - but it's like getting a loan to start a
    business.

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  • From jack murphy@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 15:17:30 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    On 5/8/2024 1:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:v1gf7i$3rt2$2@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
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    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- >>>>>>> that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier >>>>>>> to ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected
    will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget,
    with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we
    can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who
    is elected in November because the events for next year have already
    been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame
    Biden because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure. 'Course you don't have brains to
    understand how that works - but it's like getting a loan to start a
    business.

    Like the way they do it in Oregon? No thanks.

    National Bridge Inventory: Oregon

    The state has identified needed repairs on 1,953 bridges.
    This compares to 2,024 bridges that needed work in 2019.
    Over the life of the IIJA, Oregon will receive a total of $288.4 million
    in bridge formula funds, which will help make needed repairs.
    Oregon currently has access to $115.4 million of that total, and has
    committed $1.4 million towards 2 projects as of June 2023.
    Of the 8,292 bridges in the state, 401, or 4.8 percent, are classified
    as structurally deficient. This means one of the key elements is in poor
    or worse condition.

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  • From Jonathan Small Balls@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 16:28:45 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 8 May 2024 20:04:07 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure.


    Never worked when the Fed did it.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-11-22/fed-s-qe-was-a-colossal-monetary-policy-mistake

    It’s Now Clear That QE Was a Colossal Policy Mistake
    There’s no convincing evidence that central banks’ purchases of
    trillions of dollars of bonds and other financial assets helped any
    economy.

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  • From Jonathan Small Balls@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 16:21:39 2024
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    On Wed, 8 May 2024 14:40:44 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Economists are warning that

    Fuck those lying fiat currency shills!

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  • From Jonathan Small Balls@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed May 8 16:27:20 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 8 May 2024 17:13:24 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    He sent all our money to Ukraine, dumb fuck!

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to jack murphy on Thu May 9 03:24:52 2024
    XPost: or.politics, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    jack murphy <jmurpht7@infinity.net> wrote in news:v1gtll$1nrev$6 @news.mixmin.net:

    On 5/8/2024 1:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
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    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- >>>>>>>> that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier >>>>>>>> to ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected
    will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget,
    with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we
    can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who
    is elected in November because the events for next year have
    already
    been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame
    Biden because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure. 'Course you don't have brains to
    understand how that works - but it's like getting a loan to start a
    business.

    Like the way they do it in Oregon? No thanks.

    National Bridge Inventory: Oregon

    The state has identified needed repairs on 1,953 bridges.
    This compares to 2,024 bridges that needed work in 2019.
    Over the life of the IIJA, Oregon will receive a total of $288.4
    million
    in bridge formula funds, which will help make needed repairs.
    Oregon currently has access to $115.4 million of that total, and has committed $1.4 million towards 2 projects as of June 2023.
    Of the 8,292 bridges in the state, 401, or 4.8 percent, are classified
    as structurally deficient. This means one of the key elements is in
    poor
    or worse condition.

    So what's your problem? You don't want Oregon bridges to get fixed? Or
    you don't want Biden funding of those repairs.

    tRump promised FOXCON to Racine, WI, and failed to deliver - Biden is delivering Microsoft and thousands of jobs to Racine.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu May 9 12:40:19 2024
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    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:v1hfm4$ee5f$2@dont-email.me...
    jack murphy <jmurpht7@infinity.net> wrote in news:v1gtll$1nrev$6 @news.mixmin.net:

    On 5/8/2024 1:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
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    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- >>>>>>>>> that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier >>>>>>>>> to ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a >>>>>>>> military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected
    will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget,
    with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we >>>>>> can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who >>>>>> is elected in November because the events for next year have
    already
    been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame
    Biden because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure. 'Course you don't have brains to
    understand how that works - but it's like getting a loan to start a
    business.

    Like the way they do it in Oregon? No thanks.

    National Bridge Inventory: Oregon

    The state has identified needed repairs on 1,953 bridges.
    This compares to 2,024 bridges that needed work in 2019.
    Over the life of the IIJA, Oregon will receive a total of $288.4
    million
    in bridge formula funds, which will help make needed repairs.
    Oregon currently has access to $115.4 million of that total, and has
    committed $1.4 million towards 2 projects as of June 2023.
    Of the 8,292 bridges in the state, 401, or 4.8 percent, are classified
    as structurally deficient. This means one of the key elements is in
    poor
    or worse condition.

    So what's your problem? You don't want Oregon bridges to get fixed? Or
    you don't want Biden funding of those repairs.

    Watch as Baxter now tries to change the subject.

    tRump promised FOXCON to Racine, WI

    Trump can promise whatever he likes but since he neither owns Foxconn nor controls it, he really couldn't promise anything despite what you might
    thing.

    and failed to deliver - Biden is
    delivering Microsoft and thousands of jobs to Racine.

    No he isn't The company is doing that. Biden is not even on the board of directors and can no more order them to go to Racine than Trump could order Faxconn to Racine.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu May 9 12:37:31 2024
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    "drill, baby, drill"

    =========

    Strange that - we're already the world's biggest oil producer -- >>>>>>> that would only drive the price of oil down - and make it easier >>>>>>> to ship jobs overseas.

    Not the brightest logic there, Mr. brainiac.

    If anyone is to blame, it's the Democrats who apparently are
    deliberately setting the USA up to fail economically and from a
    military perspective.


    Economists are warning that tRump's plans should he get elected
    will drive inflation to double digits.

    We've already had that under Biden.. and with the largest budget,
    with the highest debt, and largest debt increase in US history, we
    can pretty much be assured that inflation will occur no matter who
    is elected in November because the events for next year have already
    been set by Biden's pending federal budget for 2025.

    So if there is a risk of double digit inflation in 2025.. blame
    Biden because it will be HIS fiscal policy driving it.

    Blame Biden?! When ALL the Republicans voted against his inflation
    relief legislation?

    Question: How does increasing deficit government spending going to
    reduce inflation?

    By investing in infrastructure.

    That doesn't reduce inflation. Deficit spending.. that drives inflation.

    'Course you don't have brains to
    understand how that works

    So you don't understand it and thus can show how it would work.


    - but it's like getting a loan to start a
    business.

    What business' has the federal government started which haven't lost tons of money?

    After all, with all this infrastructure we have all over.. we shouldn't have
    to pay ANY taxes..

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  • From Jonathan Ball's dismay@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri May 10 11:28:58 2024
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    On Thu, 9 May 2024 03:24:52 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    You don't want Oregon bridges to get fixed?

    A good start on culling the herd, sure.

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