• Gas stove fight is more elite culture-war nonsense

    From zinn@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 07:37:22 2023
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    You couldn’t imagine a more picture-perfect anti-science, dishonest,
    elitist signal than talk of banning gas stoves. Yet it’s not just Team
    Biden: It looks like Gov. Kathy Hochul is seeking to pass a ban of her own
    this year.

    On the federal level, the supposed reason the Consumer Product Safety Commission is looking to outlaw stoves now used in more than 40% of US
    homes is a claim that they cause asthma in kids.

    Except they don’t. The science is clear on this. There is “no evidence of
    an association between the use of gas as a cooking fuel and either asthma symptoms or asthma diagnosis,” per a multi-year study tracking more than 500,000 kids around the world.

    That the banners can cite another study or two that suggest a link is just
    more proof that liars use statistics. Especially when the main “study”
    comes from the radical green Rocky Mountain Institute. And it’s pretty
    clear that Hochul’s ban is entirely about her anti-carbon agenda.

    Yet the ban makes no sense from a science-based green perspective, since
    the electric stoves that would replace gas ones would be overwhelmingly
    powered by fossil fuels anyway (including, gasp, coal and oil).

    So it’s more “emissions theater” at the expense of regular folks. Gas
    stoves are far superior to normal electric stoves, and the cheapest
    induction stoves cost about twice as much as basic gas stoves (and also
    require special pots and pans to work).

    After news of the possible ban broke, the feds were quick to insist that
    the gas-stove ban isn’t coming anytime soon. Believe that if you will —
    but the crusaders won’t stop.

    The same dim thinking already has green pols warring on gas heat, with
    bans on new gas hookups in place in New York and elsewhere around the
    country. No matter that it can drive up heating costs alone as much as
    $1,420 a year — again, for no environmental gain until the nation stops
    relying overwhelmingly on carbon fuels for its electricity.

    Heating or cooking, these bans are only “green” in sentiment, not science
    — not to mention the huge social injustice. Adding a bogus “health” excuse
    only adds to the profound deception. How about Hochul and the feds focus
    on actual solutions for real problems?

    Comments:

    Evan Jones
    1 hour ago

    I think this is the first period of history where academia was so toxic
    that its very existence actually reduces economic activity and Gross
    Domestic Product.

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  • From Mr Posting Robot@21:1/5 to zinn on Thu Jan 12 08:14:06 2023
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    In alt.global-warming zinn <zinn@reno.us> wrote:
    You couldn?t imagine a more picture-perfect anti-science, dishonest,
    elitist signal than talk of banning gas stoves. Yet it?s not just Team
    Biden: It looks like Gov. Kathy Hochul is seeking to pass a ban of her own this year.
    ...

    It's a world-wide elitist movement promited by left and right govmints
    and ebin by energy companies theirselbs to cut pipeline maintenance an
    boost profits! Bastards!

    Deres eben some dum cober story dat meefan leeks inna home caus lung cancer
    an other disease in adults and kids -- if yo nebbe heerd anythin sew unpossible!
    Hoo nids dum kids!!??


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