• Re: Democrat mismanaged Yosemite National Park wildfires explode in siz

    From But Trump!@21:1/5 to forging asshole on Sun Jul 24 09:25:16 2022
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    In article <t2kpt1$3mp8r$69@news.freedyn.de>
    forging asshole <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    Gov. Gavin Newsom, D-Calif., misrepresented his wildfire preparedness and even disinvested in prevention.


    Due to the fires in Yosemite National Park, the U.S. Forest
    Service is taking emergency action to save the giant sequoias

    A fast-moving wildfire near Yosemite National Park exploded in
    size Saturday and prompted evacuations even as firefighters made
    progress against an earlier blaze that burned to the edge of a
    grove of giant sequoias.

    The Oak Fire, which began Friday afternoon southwest of the park
    near Midpines in Mariposa County, grew to 10.2 square miles
    (26.5 square kilometers) by Saturday morning, according to the
    California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or Cal
    Fire.

    Evacuation orders were put in effect Saturday for over 6,000
    people living in the sparsely populated, rural area.

    "Explosive fire behavior is challenging firefighters," Cal Fire
    said in a statement Saturday morning that described the fire
    activity as "extreme with frequent runs, spot fires and group
    torching."

    As of Saturday morning, the fire had destroyed 10 residential
    and commercial structures and damaged five more, and was
    threatening 2,000 more structures, Cal Fire said.

    The fast-growing blaze prompted Caltrans to order numerous road
    closures, including a shutdown of Highway 140 between Carstens
    Road and Allred Road ó blocking one of the main routes into
    Yosemite National Park.

    Hot weather and bone dry vegetation caused by the worst drought
    in decades was fueling the blaze and challenging fire crews,
    said Daniel Patterson, a spokesman for the Sierra National
    Forest.

    "The fire is moving quickly. This fire was throwing embers out
    in front of itself for up to 2 miles yesterday," Patterson said.
    "These are exceptional fire conditions."

    A shoeless older man attempting to flee crashed his sedan into a
    ditch in a closed area and was helped by firefighters. He was
    safely driven from the area and did not appear to suffer any
    injuries. Several other residents stayed in their homes Friday
    night as the fire continued to burn nearby.

    Pacific Gas & Electric said on its website that more than 2,600
    homes and businesses in the area had lost power by Friday
    afternoon and there was no indication when it would be restored.

    "PG&E is unable to access the affected equipment," the company
    said.

    Thereís no immediate word on what sparked the fire.

    On Friday, firefighters reported that they have been able to
    contain 79% of the initial wildfire, the Washburn Fire.

    The fire, in the lower Mariposa Grove area near the Washburn
    trail, forced the evacuation of the community of Wowona and
    endangered hundreds of giant sequoias, the world's largest trees
    by volume.

    Wawona Road is tentatively set to reopen on Saturday, according
    to the park website.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. Forest Service announced Friday it's taking
    emergency action to save giant sequoias by speeding up projects
    to protect the trees from the increasing threat of wildfires.

    The Save Our Sequoias (SOS) Act was introduced by a bipartisan
    group of congressman including House Republican leader Kevin
    McCarthy.

    The SOS acts calls for intentionally lighting smaller trees and
    vegetation during damp conditions with firefighters monitoring.

    "The Forest Serviceís action today is an important step forward
    for Giant Sequoias, but without addressing other barriers to
    protecting these groves, this emergency will only continue," the
    group said. "Itís time to codify this action by establishing a
    true comprehensive solution to fireproof every grove in
    California through the SOS Act and save our sequoias."

    This emergency action could cut years off the normal approval
    process required to cut smaller trees in national forests and
    use intentionally low-intensity fires to reduce dense brush. The
    dense underbrush aids wildfires to spread rapidly.

    "Without urgent action, wildfires could eliminate countless more
    iconic giant sequoias," Forest Service Chief Randy Moore said in
    a statement. "This emergency action to reduce fuels before a
    wildfire occurs will protect unburned giant sequoia groves from
    the risks of high-severity wildfires."

    Some environmental groups have criticized forest thinning as an
    excuse for commercial logging.

    Ara Marderosian, executive director of the Sequoia ForestKeeper
    group, called the announcement a "well-orchestrated PR campaign."

    He said it fails to consider how logging can exacerbate
    wildfires and could increase carbon emissions that will worsen
    the climate crisis.

    "Fast-tracking thinning fails to consider that roadways and
    logged areas ... allows wind-driven fires because of greater
    airflow caused by the opening in the canopy, which increases
    wildfire speed and intensity," he said.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/yosemite-national-park-wildfires- explode-size-us-takes-emergency-action-save-sequoias

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  • From Pot addles your brains@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Jul 24 19:14:04 2022
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:tbjo2o$1lhv$2@gioia.aioe.org:

    But Trump! <real_geniuses@latimes.com> wrote in news:02ee2698662b679cc02e99dd95947525@dizum.com:

    <snip>

    "Fast-tracking thinning fails to consider that roadways and
    logged areas ... allows wind-driven fires because of greater
    airflow caused by the opening in the canopy, which increases
    wildfire speed and intensity," he said.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/yosemite-national-park-wildfires-
    explode-size-us-takes-emergency-action-save-sequoias


    That sounds like they raked the forest like tRump told them to.

    Or "thinning" - that's what all Repugs on the West Coast demand.

    In short, it sounds more like Repug than Dem.

    Here's the part you snipped, you dishonest sack of shit.

    "Ara Marderosian, executive director of the Sequoia ForestKeeper
    group, called the announcement a "well-orchestrated PR campaign."

    He said it fails to consider how logging can exacerbate
    wildfires and could increase carbon emissions that will worsen
    the climate crisis."

    He's a wackdoodle.

    https://content.sierraclub.org/grassrootsnetwork/users/ara-marderosian

    https://www.saveamericasforests.org/congress/congress-gallery.htm

    If you don't clean the deadfall from forests, it simply becomes a huge
    campfire with plenty of ground level fuel to feed on. Every boy scout
    knows that. Every firebug exploits that. Every power company fears that.

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  • From interzone@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 24 13:35:53 2022
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    On 7/24/2022 1:25 AM, But Trump! wrote:
    The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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  • From interzone@21:1/5 to Pot addles your brains on Sun Jul 24 13:29:45 2022
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    On 7/24/2022 1:14 PM, Pot addles your brains wrote:
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:tbjo2o$1lhv$2@gioia.aioe.org:

    But Trump! <real_geniuses@latimes.com> wrote in
    news:02ee2698662b679cc02e99dd95947525@dizum.com:

    <snip>

    "Fast-tracking thinning fails to consider that roadways and
    logged areas ... allows wind-driven fires because of greater
    airflow caused by the opening in the canopy, which increases
    wildfire speed and intensity," he said.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/yosemite-national-park-wildfires-
    explode-size-us-takes-emergency-action-save-sequoias


    That sounds like they raked the forest like tRump told them to.

    Or "thinning" - that's what all Repugs on the West Coast demand.

    In short, it sounds more like Repug than Dem.

    Here's the part you snipped, you dishonest sack of shit.

    "Ara Marderosian, executive director of the Sequoia ForestKeeper
    group, called the announcement a "well-orchestrated PR campaign."

    He said it fails to consider how logging can exacerbate
    wildfires and could increase carbon emissions that will worsen
    the climate crisis."

    He's a wackdoodle.

    https://content.sierraclub.org/grassrootsnetwork/users/ara-marderosian

    https://www.saveamericasforests.org/congress/congress-gallery.htm

    If you don't clean the deadfall from forests, it simply becomes a huge campfire with plenty of ground level fuel to feed on. Every boy scout
    knows that. Every firebug exploits that. Every power company fears that.

    The only western nation to "manage" their forests is...wait for
    it...GERMANY!


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/forests-german-myth-under-physical-attack-drought-heat-n1065661

    And for all their efforts in fuel reduction they end up in the same mess
    the Bandera maple preserve in Texas has - DROUGHT!!!

    "Dr. Tanja Sanders, head of forest ecology and biodiversity at the
    Th√ľnen Institute, explains that some beech trees have suffered the
    equivalent of a sunburn during the droughts and are slowly dying."

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1724849/central-texas-tree-dying-from-top-down

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  • From Jolly Kone Mgnt@21:1/5 to interzone on Sun Jul 24 22:26:36 2022
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    interzone <user@sample.net> wrote in news:tbk6v4$phqj$15@dont-email.me:

    On 7/24/2022 1:25 AM, But Trump! wrote:
    The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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  • From interzone@21:1/5 to Jolly Kone Mgnt on Sun Jul 24 17:25:36 2022
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    On 7/24/2022 4:26 PM, Jolly Kone Mgnt wrote:
    interzone <user@sample.net> wrote in news:tbk6v4$phqj$15@dont-email.me:

    On 7/24/2022 1:25 AM, But Trump! wrote:
    The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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