• How many Earths do we need if the world's population lived like...

    From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 2 14:04:22 2021
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    "David P" wrote in message news:7b006481-2b89-4dda-a30f-98f14cadefd9n@googlegroups.com...

    How many Earths do we need if the world's population lived like...
    United States, 5.0 Earths
    Australia, 4.1 Earths

    <snip>

    Ever notice that the higher the energy consumption,
    the higher the standard of living?

    You might have caught this on CNN a few years back:

    Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw3ET3zqxk

    Feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zph89X6FTKI

    YT has "pulled" it several times since its release in 2013.

    The links are good as of 8/2.

    "Pandora's Promise" pointed out that global energy requirements grow at
    about 3% per year, and "alternative" energy sources simply won't be able to keep up. If you want to give up fossil fuel, then the only alternative is nuclear power, and the leadership of the environmental movement will not support that.

    "[B]y the end of the year (2013), more than 400,000 individual solar
    projects will be operating across the country": http://www.seia.org/research-resources/solar-market-insight-2013-q3

    Then you'd better get building: Since about 24 terawatts are consumed
    globally each year (as of 2018), and demand grows by 3% a year, then 720
    extra gigawatts will have to be produced each year and increased by 3% the
    next year and so on until you'll be needing 5.4 more TW by 2024...

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Byker on Mon Aug 2 12:41:01 2021
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    In article <h66dnQpsIKEl3JX8nZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    Ever notice that the higher the energy consumption,
    the higher the standard of living?

    Energy efficiency in the US has gone up. Compare car petrol
    consumption today to 1970. Energy prices drive innovation.

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to Byker on Tue Aug 3 07:49:09 2021
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    On 3/08/21 7:04 am, Byker wrote:
    "David P"  wrote in message news:7b006481-2b89-4dda-a30f-98f14cadefd9n@googlegroups.com...

    How many Earths do we need if the world's population lived like...
    United States, 5.0 Earths
    Australia, 4.1 Earths

    <snip>

    Ever notice that the higher the energy consumption,
    the higher the standard of living?

    You might have caught this on CNN a few years back:

    Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw3ET3zqxk

    Feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zph89X6FTKI

    YT has "pulled" it several times since its release in 2013.

    The links are good as of 8/2.

    "Pandora's Promise" pointed out that global energy requirements grow at
    about 3% per year, and "alternative" energy sources simply won't be able to keep up. If you want to give up fossil fuel, then the only alternative is nuclear power, and the leadership of the environmental movement will not support that.

    "[B]y the end of the year (2013), more than 400,000 individual solar
    projects will be operating across the country": http://www.seia.org/research-resources/solar-market-insight-2013-q3

    Then you'd better get building: Since about 24 terawatts are consumed globally each year (as of 2018), and demand grows by 3% a year, then 720 extra gigawatts will have to be produced each year and increased by 3%
    the next year and so on until you'll be needing 5.4 more TW by 2024...

    Rolling on the floor and laughing.
    And once again pointing out where the greens are garbage
    Solar is great during the day and fails somewhat at night or in the Arctic/Antarctic areas...

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Aug 2 16:14:19 2021
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    On 8/2/21 3:41 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <h66dnQpsIKEl3JX8nZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    Ever notice that the higher the energy consumption,
    the higher the standard of living?

    Energy efficiency in the US has gone up. Compare car petrol
    consumption today to 1970. Energy prices drive innovation.

    The same miles driven by an electric car will consume more energy
    because transferring that energy into a batter and then back out and to mechanical energy is less efficient. Then there are weak batteries, and
    the cold and other losses when using batteries to store energy.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Aug 2 18:40:12 2021
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    On 8/2/21 3:41 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <h66dnQpsIKEl3JX8nZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    Ever notice that the higher the energy consumption,
    the higher the standard of living?

    Energy efficiency in the US has gone up. Compare car petrol
    consumption today to 1970. Energy prices drive innovation.

    But gas-guzzling SUVs and "monster" trucks still sell terrifically...

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to George Black on Tue Aug 3 12:32:45 2021
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    "George Black" wrote in message news:ibWdnQGOWY6r0ZX8nZ2dnUU7-UXNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    Rolling on the floor and laughing.
    And once again pointing out where the greens are garbage
    Solar is great during the day and fails somewhat at night or in the Arctic/Antarctic areas...

    For once I can agree with Michael Moore.

    Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXCftKF4uI

    Feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

    Of course the eco-kooks go gaga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzQxaUVtmUA

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  • From Mainspring@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 4 00:03:38 2021
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    Solar is just not a good substitute at this point.
    Up-front costs are HIGH (and there's a lot of energy
    and pollution involved).

    Solar might eventually BECOME "good", but figure 20
    years, not next week.

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