• Re: Turkey earthquake

    From Kleiner Junge@21:1/5 to zvika on Sat Sep 9 16:07:53 2023
    On Wednesday, August 18, 1999 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, zvika wrote:
    Hi all
    I m following the last earthquake in turkey.
    I'd like 2 call all the safety engineers in the world 2 change
    perception about such a disaster.
    1. It happened at 3 am in morning with no alert.
    2. The length of zone under earthquake was at least 150 km (100 miles)
    3. There were 300 aftershocks which at least 200 people died because of
    that.
    4. Israel responed immediately not waiting 2 a call for help from the
    Turkey goverment.
    5. Greece which is in dispute and war with Turkey send a delegation of
    help.
    6. The people of Turkey r behaving very bravely and with simple means 2 trying 2 rescue as they can.
    7. The Turkey TV broadcasting direct non stop 4 a period of 48 hours and
    does report something else but the earthquake.
    8. Until now there r 3500 deads 30000 injured.
    9. There at least 10000 people missing.
    10. Help started reaching the area only 48 hours after the case.
    11. There r places were no one reached and yet we dont know about people missing.
    12. The zone of earthquake is likely 2 have an earthquake and building
    were built according 2 regulations.
    13. The next earthquake 2 come can b in Istanbul = 15M people.
    14. People r afraid 2 come back 2 home and so the became fugitives.
    15. It is now a critical moment - they dont have the power 2 keep on on rescue effort and they need ergently help.
    16. There r reports of deseases and shortage of water and electricity. Opinion
    1. The ability of a state 2 cope with such an event is impossible.
    2. There must b an international team that is operated on demand and
    because of good will.
    3. The standard of building is not a matter of state enforcing a
    regulation but an international commity.
    zvika greenberg
    safety information centre
    haifa israel.
    23 years later, another earthquake happened

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  • From Kleiner Junge@21:1/5 to Liz Bennett on Sat Sep 9 16:07:05 2023
    On Tuesday, August 24, 1999 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Liz Bennett wrote:
    Hi! You are obviously in a great deal of pain about this tragedy. It is
    right to have such a reaction but then to focus it to good so that such an event is far less likely in the future.
    I do hope the positive message from the USA has helped. There are many organisations and individuals in and from the UK who are providing technical support voluntarily or as part of a charitable organised response. I am sure the same is true of many other nations too.
    You will find that for every incompetent or meanspirited individual there
    are many who are determined to add to the happiness and welbeing of those around. I would suggest you decide what you can do yourself and how you can achieve that most effectively. Write a business plan where the profit is the wellbeing of mankind or the benefits for an "at risk group" close to your heart. All the circles of good we each generate will eventually merge.
    I cannot drive a crane or dig effectively with my hands or administer
    cholera treatment. Globally the best I can do is in education and public speaking and supporting your endeavours and the work of those who are able
    to provide direct assistance. Sending corporate and personal money to the agencies with the expertise helps too. We have our particular engineerng charity in this country supported by organisations who release young engineers for months on end to go to work in disaster relief. All parties gain from this arrangement and no-one gets stale or too depressed. Maybe you could do something similar....
    All the best.
    Liz
    23 years late, another earthquake happened

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