• TIG again after 5 years, help

    From amdx@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 7 21:31:12 2020
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                   Thanks, Mikek


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to amdx on Sat Aug 8 07:15:10 2020
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                   Thanks, Mikek



    I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a gas
    lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad or worse
    than not enough .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat Aug 8 07:53:02 2020
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek >>


      I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a gas
    lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad or worse
    than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens. Not just somebody on YouTube
    hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to amdx on Sat Aug 8 13:53:49 2020
    On 8/8/2020 1:38 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a
    gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad
    or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on YouTube
    hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

    OK, I set it all up, I have gas flow, I have High frequency arc, but I
    don't have any current to heat the metal.

    I've tried every thing I know of. Here's a picture of my panel settings.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr3oehlbofdti1n/tig%20settings.jpg?dl=0

    I have the ground clip connected to Neg and the Tig Torch connected to
    pos.

    I've tried the torch switch and foot switch, both give me gas and HF
    arc, but no current.

    This did work, when I put it away 5 years ago.

                                               Thanks for your help, Mikek


     I noted that when I have the current set to read 180at maximum and try
    to TIG, the HF arcs and

    the current reading drops to 35. after I stop the HF arc it takes 10
    seconds and the reading increases back to 180.

                                                       Mikek





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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Aug 8 13:38:04 2020
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a
    gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad
    or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on YouTube hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

    OK, I set it all up, I have gas flow, I have High frequency arc, but I
    don't have any current to heat the metal.

    I've tried every thing I know of. Here's a picture of my panel settings.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr3oehlbofdti1n/tig%20settings.jpg?dl=0

    I have the ground clip connected to Neg and the Tig Torch connected to pos.

    I've tried the torch switch and foot switch, both give me gas and HF
    arc, but no current.

    This did work, when I put it away 5 years ago.

                                               Thanks for your help, Mikek


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Aug 8 13:59:48 2020
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a
    gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad or
    worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on YouTube hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?


    I think it does give you slightly better shielding by diffusing the
    shield gas . I also think a round piece of scotchbrite pad slid up into
    the cup will do about as good at a much much lower cost .
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to amdx on Sat Aug 8 14:07:32 2020
    On 8/8/2020 1:53 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 1:38 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a
    gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad
    or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on YouTube
    hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

    OK, I set it all up, I have gas flow, I have High frequency arc, but I
    don't have any current to heat the metal.

    I've tried every thing I know of. Here's a picture of my panel settings.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr3oehlbofdti1n/tig%20settings.jpg?dl=0

    I have the ground clip connected to Neg and the Tig Torch connected to
    pos.

    I've tried the torch switch and foot switch, both give me gas and HF
    arc, but no current.

    This did work, when I put it away 5 years ago.

                                               Thanks for your help, Mikek


     I noted that when I have the current set to read 180at maximum and try
    to TIG, the HF arcs and

    the current reading drops to 35. after I stop the HF arc it takes 10
    seconds and the reading increases back to 180.

                                                       Mikek






    I have a Powertig 250 EX , mine is set up with the 'trode negative .
    Recently I had a problem with my machine , erratic and just wierd .
    Taking the case off and blowing the cobwebs and dust out brought it all
    back ... they do advise doing that from time to time .
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  • From etpm@whidbey.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 8 12:07:22 2020
    On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 07:53:02 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



      I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a gas
    lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad or worse
    than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens. Not just somebody on YouTube
    hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?
    I love gas lenses and use them almost exclusively. They quickly pay
    for themselves with lower gas consumption. And the shielding is much
    better which leads to better welds, especially when welding stainless.
    They are bigger than standard cups and so don't work as well in tight
    spaces. So for tight spaces I use standard cups.
    Eric

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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat Aug 8 15:49:38 2020
    On 8/8/2020 2:07 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 1:53 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 1:38 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using
    a gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as
    bad or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on
    YouTube hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a
    kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

    OK, I set it all up, I have gas flow, I have High frequency arc, but
    I don't have any current to heat the metal.

    I've tried every thing I know of. Here's a picture of my panel
    settings.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr3oehlbofdti1n/tig%20settings.jpg?dl=0

    I have the ground clip connected to Neg and the Tig Torch connected
    to pos.

    I've tried the torch switch and foot switch, both give me gas and HF
    arc, but no current.

    This did work, when I put it away 5 years ago.

                                               Thanks for your help, Mikek


      I noted that when I have the current set to read 180at maximum and
    try to TIG, the HF arcs and

    the current reading drops to 35. after I stop the HF arc it takes 10
    seconds and the reading increases back to 180.

                                                        Mikek






    I have a Powertig 250 EX , mine is set up with the 'trode negative .
    Recently I had a problem with my machine , erratic and just wierd .
    Taking the case off and blowing the cobwebs and dust out brought it
    all back ... they do advise doing that from time to time .

    I did pop the cover, not so much to blow cobwebs out as I had it covered
    for 5 years, so it's clean. But I was hoping to find a poor connection,

    no such luck. Is there such a thing as a schematic available for an
    Everlast Powertig 200 DX?


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  • From David Billington@21:1/5 to amdx on Sat Aug 8 23:03:32 2020
    On 08/08/2020 21:49, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 2:07 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 1:53 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 1:38 PM, amdx wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at. >>>>>>>
    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using >>>>>> a gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as
    bad or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on
    YouTube hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a
    kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?

    OK, I set it all up, I have gas flow, I have High frequency arc,
    but I don't have any current to heat the metal.

    I've tried every thing I know of. Here's a picture of my panel
    settings.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr3oehlbofdti1n/tig%20settings.jpg?dl=0

    I have the ground clip connected to Neg and the Tig Torch connected
    to pos.

    I've tried the torch switch and foot switch, both give me gas and
    HF arc, but no current.

    This did work, when I put it away 5 years ago.

                                               Thanks for your help, Mikek


      I noted that when I have the current set to read 180at maximum and
    try to TIG, the HF arcs and

    the current reading drops to 35. after I stop the HF arc it takes 10
    seconds and the reading increases back to 180.

                                                        Mikek






    I have a Powertig 250 EX , mine is set up with the 'trode negative .
    Recently I had a problem with my machine , erratic and just wierd .
    Taking the case off and blowing the cobwebs and dust out brought it
    all back ... they do advise doing that from time to time .

    I did pop the cover, not so much to blow cobwebs out as I had it
    covered for 5 years, so it's clean. But I was hoping to find a poor connection,

    no such luck. Is there such a thing as a schematic available for an
    Everlast Powertig 200 DX?


    You can get oxidation of the tungsten electrode which can prevent the
    arc starting, scratching the electrode on the work piece or welding
    table surface normally removes it from the tip and allows a clean start

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Aug 14 08:16:37 2020
    On 8/8/2020 11:59 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 9:53 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 8/7/2020 9:31 PM, amdx wrote:
    I haven't TIGed for 5 years, what do I set the gas flow level at.

    Tigging aluminum, 1-1/2" square tube, 1/8" wall to 1/4" plate.

                                    Thanks, Mikek



       I usually run around 10-15 scfm depending on whether I'm using a
    gas lens or regular cup and what size cup/lens . Too much is as bad
    or worse than not enough .

    Finally a real person using a gas lens.  Not just somebody on YouTube
    hawking wares or denigrating wares they don't get a kickback from.

    So what do you think of the whole gas lens thing?


      I think it does give you slightly better shielding by diffusing the shield gas . I also think a round piece of scotchbrite pad slid up into
    the cup will do about as good at a much much lower cost .

    You know. One of the YouTube experts who is often hawking wares once
    suggested the same thing in a video using a spool gun to weld aluminum.
    A piece of Scotch brite pad back inside the hood to more uniformly
    deliver the shielding gas.

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