"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lysfunugzn.fsf@void.com...
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I try to help when I can, but my MIG welding skill is barely adequate
to let an old car and truck pass inspection. I've heard that manual
and writing skill occur together even less often in Britain than in
America.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2MKhm99hgpBrV79K47Mycbh/persian-poets-need-not-apply-29-march-2002

-jsw

Very interesting read.
We do have a cultural problem, yes. My impression is it's affected
the course of our economy to where we are and our economic situation.
I have a PhD from a study on steel and welding where I was inept (I
was only young) but determined and did get it done, discovering
notable new knowledge - and I work as a welder.
Interview processes exclude me from any jobs
A rare skill could make a person valuable. It can also mean you don't
fit any precepts about who they are looking to recruit.

I have to be very thick-skinned as the welding world is dominated by
traditions as a Trade for people mainly living hand-to-mouth.
The engineering world ostensibly about welding is in a parallel
Universe, an office world entirely defined by its walls, a phone and a
filing cabinet.
Nett result - both worlds bump along in their own grooves achieving
way less than should be the case.
In my less than humble opinion.
Best wishes,

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"rds" wrote in message news:lytuf16r6a.fsf_-_@void.com...

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lysfunugzn.fsf@void.com...
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I try to help when I can, but my MIG welding skill is barely adequate
to let an old car and truck pass inspection. I've heard that manual
and writing skill occur together even less often in Britain than in
America.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2MKhm99hgpBrV79K47Mycbh/persian-poets-need-not-apply-29-march-2002

-jsw

Very interesting read.
We do have a cultural problem, yes. My impression is it's affected
the course of our economy to where we are and our economic situation.
I have a PhD from a study on steel and welding where I was inept (I
was only young) but determined and did get it done, discovering
notable new knowledge - and I work as a welder.
Interview processes exclude me from any jobs
A rare skill could make a person valuable. It can also mean you don't
fit any precepts about who they are looking to recruit.

I have to be very thick-skinned as the welding world is dominated by
traditions as a Trade for people mainly living hand-to-mouth.
The engineering world ostensibly about welding is in a parallel
Universe, an office world entirely defined by its walls, a phone and a
filing cabinet.
Nett result - both worlds bump along in their own grooves achieving
way less than should be the case.
In my less than humble opinion.
Best wishes,

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The Two Cultures mentality does exist here but it's not universal. One of my Chemistry profs tried to convince us that theoretical academic research was
the only ethical career choice, others worked closely with industry and some courses taught us industrial practice, especially for steel mills.

I've worked at a research facility where the division bordered on official policy, with the result that although I don't have an EE degree I was
allowed to flesh out the design of complex electronic circuits after the
Ph.Ds had determined the requirement and selected the critical components.
On the other hand at Segway the engineers machined their own prototype parts
on the CNC mill and lathe, more or less leaving to me the jobs that required cut-and-try hand or manual machine work. Filing and scraping to fit aren't 'normal' here.

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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:spv4vh$517$1@dont-email.me...

"rds" wrote in message news:lytuf16r6a.fsf_-_@void.com...

A rare skill could make a person valuable. It can also mean you don't
fit any precepts about who they are looking to recruit.

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The niche I fell into was Lab Manager at non-Union facilities that allowed
me to do whatever I could, and the engineers couldn't or didn't have time
for. Another ill-defined function I qualified for was Test Engineer, and you might also, or as a welding supplier's in-house expert who develops new processes for customers. Maybe you will perfect proton beam welding. http://aea.web.psi.ch/Urs_Rohrer/MyWeb/protect.htm

My missed opportunity was during Army training when they took me aside and asked if I wanted to be James Bond, to which I would have replied that I'd rather be "Q", if only I'd been carrying the little tin box I had made that unfolded into a crossbow shooting darts tipped with flash bulbs that fired
on impact.

It's probably better that I continued to the school I'd signed up for, and added electronics to my skill set.

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