"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I
used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel
welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
On 1/3/2021 5:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my
TIG , it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things ,
different filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x
1/4 steel I used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle
and chase it a couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters .
Different steel welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that
steel welds right pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should
probably fill my gasoline cans too .
----------------------
A possible reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxidized_steel https://www.esabna.com/euweb/oxy_handbook/589oxy10_4.htm ----------------------
This is a piece of common hot rolled steel ... that first article
gave some insights into the problem . I won't be using the TIG welder
on it , got a couple of welds still to do for the weathercock mount
and I'll just use the MIG .
"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things ,
different filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x
1/4 steel I used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle
and chase it a couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters
. Different steel welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that
steel welds right pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum
----------------------
A possible reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxidized_steel
https://www.esabna.com/euweb/oxy_handbook/589oxy10_4.htm
"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things ,
different filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x
1/4 steel I used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle
and chase it a couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters
. Different steel welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that
steel welds right pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum
----------------------
A possible reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxidized_steel
https://www.esabna.com/euweb/oxy_handbook/589oxy10_4.htm
"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:ly5z4ctis5.fsf@richards-air-2.home...
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
...
fill my gasoline cans too .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum
----------------------
A possible reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxidized_steel
https://www.esabna.com/euweb/oxy_handbook/589oxy10_4.htm
I thought all concast (continuously cast) steels are "killed" "flat" -
and all general steels these days are concast?
These articles describe what did happen in history, when general
steels were ingot cast?
???
Rich S
--------------
Britannica gives about 55% concast. https://www.britannica.com/technology/steel/Casting-of-steel
"Richard Smith" wrote in message
news:ly5z4ctis5.fsf@richards-air-2.home...
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
"Snag" wrote in message news:rst3cu$jbq$1@dont-email.me...
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
...
fill my gasoline cans too .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum
----------------------
A possible reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxidized_steel
https://www.esabna.com/euweb/oxy_handbook/589oxy10_4.htm
I thought all concast (continuously cast) steels are "killed" "flat" -
and all general steels these days are concast?
These articles describe what did happen in history, when general
steels were ingot cast?
???
Rich S
--------------
Britannica gives about 55% concast. https://www.britannica.com/technology/steel/Casting-of-steel
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different >filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I
used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a >couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel
welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:45:50 -0600, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different
filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I
used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a
couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel
welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
TIG weld with 70S6 filler rod. 70S6 filler has the highest amount of de-oxidizers and works good with steel that's not perfect.
In my limited experience hot rolled generally welds worse than cold
rolled, a de-oxidizing filler is required.
Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
On 1/29/2021 8:04 AM, Randy333 wrote:How do you know it's not gremlins pushing your vane around? It could
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:45:50 -0600, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG
, it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different >>> filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I
used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a >>> couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel
welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
TIG weld with 70S6 filler rod. 70S6 filler has the highest amount of
de-oxidizers and works good with steel that's not perfect.
In my limited experience hot rolled generally welds worse than cold
rolled, a de-oxidizing filler is required.
Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
The TIG filler I have is 70S2 , the MIG wire is 70S6 , maybe that's
why it was more easily weldable with the MIG . Either way , the weather
vane is finished and mounted on the house now . And apparently I got it >perfectly plumb on the first try , seems every time I look at it it's >pointing a different direction . Not settling to the same position is a
good thing .
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:42:57 -0600, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
On 1/29/2021 8:04 AM, Randy333 wrote:How do you know it's not gremlins pushing your vane around? It could
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:45:50 -0600, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG >>>> , it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different >>>> filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I >>>> used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a >>>> couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel >>>> welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably >>>> fill my gasoline cans too .
TIG weld with 70S6 filler rod. 70S6 filler has the highest amount of
de-oxidizers and works good with steel that's not perfect.
In my limited experience hot rolled generally welds worse than cold
rolled, a de-oxidizing filler is required.
Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
The TIG filler I have is 70S2 , the MIG wire is 70S6 , maybe that's
why it was more easily weldable with the MIG . Either way , the weather
vane is finished and mounted on the house now . And apparently I got it
perfectly plumb on the first try , seems every time I look at it it's
pointing a different direction . Not settling to the same position is a
good thing .
happen. Just ask William Shatner.
Eric
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How do you know it's not gremlins pushing your vane around? It could
happen. Just ask William Shatner.
Eric
On 1/29/2021 8:04 AM, Randy333 wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:45:50 -0600, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
I did the test someone suggested to check for shield gas with my TIG >>> , it was getting gas to the nozzle . So I tried a few things , different >>> filler , different steel piece ... and it turns out the 3x 1/4 steel I
used is the problem . With no filler , just melt a puddle and chase it a >>> couple of inches and there were all kinds of craters . Different steel
welded nicely and had no problems . Strange , that steel welds right
pretty with the MIG .
I'm still going to pick up a new bottle tomorrow ... along with a
trip to the LPG store and the grocery store . Hmmm , I should probably
fill my gasoline cans too .
TIG weld with 70S6 filler rod. 70S6 filler has the highest amount of
de-oxidizers and works good with steel that's not perfect.
In my limited experience hot rolled generally welds worse than cold
rolled, a de-oxidizing filler is required.
Randy
Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
The TIG filler I have is 70S2 , the MIG wire is 70S6 , maybe that's
why it was more easily weldable with the MIG . Either way , the weather
vane is finished and mounted on the house now . And apparently I got it perfectly plumb on the first try , seems every time I look at it it's pointing a different direction . Not settling to the same position is a
good thing .
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