On Sunday, January 8, 2012 at 10:03:28 AM UTC-5, Michael Dobony wrote:

On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno wrote:

School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.

It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves.

Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.

The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs

That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school

Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?

BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html

I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute.

mineral oil is too viscous and makes the valves move slowly

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If the valves are stuck, you should probably bring the instrument in
to a pro for service. If you want to try loosening them yourself,
maybe WD40 will work, but it might take a long time to penetrate, or
might not work at all, or might affect the finish.

But maybe by "stuck" you don't mean stuck, but slow. Then a low
viscosity oil might work as a temporary substitute for valve oil.

Severely hydrotreated sounds horrible? LOL. What about dihydrogen
oxide, would you drink it?

Your gasoline is also severely hydrotreated. This treatment removes
unsaturated compounds, smelly stuff and other pollutants.

Naphtha, not naptha.


On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:28:33 -0800 (PST), ababore@uci.edu wrote:

On Sunday, January 8, 2012 at 10:03:28 AM UTC-5, Michael Dobony wrote:

On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno wrote:

School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are >> > stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.

It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a >> > musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the
valves.

Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling >> > says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.

The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97%
with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs

That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to >> > school

Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I
can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder
if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on
a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?

BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in
addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most
of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? >> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html

I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt >> they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out
quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute.

mineral oil is too viscous and makes the valves move slowly

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The dishsoap with water totally worked thanks! I used dawn

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replying to sam bruno, Colton furlong wrote:
What kind of essential oil

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Dude I drink dihydrogen monoxide every day, I think I am pretty normal.

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replying to zxcvbob, Sydneytbee wrote:
WD-40 corrodes the nickle in horns (not reccomended)

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replying to sam bruno, Victor wrote:
I haven't played my trumpet for about a year and the valves don't even move what should I do


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Dear Victor:

On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 8:44:03 PM UTC-7, Victor wrote:

replying to sam bruno, Victor wrote:
I haven't played my trumpet for about a year
and the valves don't even move what should I
do

Replying to a poster that has not responded to this thread in 5 years, may never get the intended response. Might be better to start a new thread. Maybe on a musical instrument newsgroup, too.

What would happen if you vented a very light solvent through a warmed (say in the oven on "warm" for a few minutes) trumpet, say some alcohol, with a "paint gun", and tried to cycle the valves on the trumpet? If they started to move, you could loosen
and lubricate, and repeat as necessary, until you got full motion.

David A. Smith

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WD-40 will corrode the metal never use it.....EVER

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 3:55:38 PM UTC-8, ctco...@gmail.com wrote:

WD-40 will corrode the metal never use it.....EVER

That is not true, WD-40 may effect other things, but it is not a corrosive agent on Nickel. Most likely though there is a polymer coating that the WD-40 reacts with to give the illusion.

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replying to Tony Hwang, Angelica wrote:
umm.... WD-40 will destroy your horn.. i wouldnt use that if i where you


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replying to clare, Johnson wrote:
yea you are right. I used the soap diluted in a ton of water and it worked
just as good as valve oil. Have 4th of July Parade today, hopefully it works for a while

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replying to Tony Hwang, Adam Barrow wrote:
WD 40 will actually corrode the metal in the instrument.

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replying to Tony Hwang, Lysa Baldwin wrote:
Don't use wd-40 that messes them up in a trumpet player

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replying to sam bruno, Rissa wrote:
If you have canola oil or any kitchen/baking oil it should work just don't use it too often in place of actual valve oil

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replying to Johnson, Reuben wrote:
Can you use CarMax

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replying to sam bruno, Smarty wrote:
You can use baby oil works fine fine only for a short while though good luck.

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I tried duct tape on the valves as you suggested. It works great--they don't rattle or move or anything.

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replying to sam bruno, Marv80205 wrote:
Charcoal lighter fluid works great. Seriously. I use it for my trumpet. Charcoal lighter fluid is a high grade kerosene and so is the valve oil you purchase at the music store. It even smells the same. Plus, it's a whole lot cheaper per ounce than what you get in those little bottles at the music
store. Just fill your old valve oil bottle with charcoal lighter fluid and you'll see what I mean.

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replying to Adam Barrow, Mark Slater wrote:
WD-40 is an anti-corrosive.
the only thing it's not good for is the lauqer that makes you instrument shiny. Know what is corrosive? Water.


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Why so many non-musicians and no trumpet players? - a very small amoutn of clipper oil or sewing machine oil

My son was recently handed his grandfather's trumpet out of the attic. Still plays and the valves work, but it is a bit tarnished. After looking at several Trumpet Maintenance 101 videos and reviews, it appears fairly simple to disassemble the trumpet
and soak the brass parts (do not soak the valve pads or springs) in warm water with a small amount of dish soap. Trumpets are wind instruments designed for 'spit' so a little water won't hurt them. Then dry gently, the most important part being not to
ding or bend the trumpet.

You will need some pipe cleaners and/or q-tips to get all of the parts clean and a soft cloth that won't scratch the brass.

Brass polish can be used to remove tarnish, I used Brasso as the trumpet was very tarnished after 50 years in a basement and then an attic. There are milder polishes for more frequent use.

Valve oil and valve grease are the best to use and there is no good substitute. The closest would be clipper oil or sewing machine oil but it will have to be wiped clean and replaced with valve oil to get everything back to "FAST."

We've got everything back together now, does anyone have a good substitute for earplugs?

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replying to Tony Hwang, Trumpets101 wrote:
Don’t use WD40. It will corrode the silver in your instrument and cause a
lot of damage.

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As a trombone player, the instrument that the most likely to need lubricants for instrument.
I use "baby oil by Johnson and Johnson"

as a substitute for best sliding performance.

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El Saturday, January 7, 2012 a la(s) 8:01:08 PM UTC-8, sam bruno escribió:

School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil.

It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves.

Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'.

The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" (> 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs

That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school

Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)?

BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_homemade-trumpet-valve-oil.html

FYI: I am using the Lucas Fishing Reel Oil 10690. and can find it in this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0787FH8RL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I hope this helps. It works wonders.

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No dude not wd-40 that's how u get sick, sure it would work, but it's not worth your health

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