• NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate Change Ar

    From Bob F@21:1/5 to Dr. Jai Maharaj on Tue Aug 8 17:37:33 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/8/2017 2:15 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti

    http://bit.do/jaimaharaj


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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Dr. Jai Maharaj on Tue Aug 8 20:22:08 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, talk.politics.misc

    On 8/8/2017 2:15 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
    Om Shanti

    http://bit.do/jaimaharaj



    "The Washington Post added to Hayhoe’s remarks, reporting the “version
    at the White House is the fifth draft, but people familiar with both
    versions say there is no substantive difference.”"

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Dr. Jai Maharaj on Tue Aug 8 22:48:39 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why
    they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they
    refute the theories.

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Aug 11 17:03:01 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why
    they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they
    refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more
    detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.
    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Fri Aug 11 06:49:27 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why
    they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they
    refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more
    detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sat Aug 12 12:56:07 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why
    they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they
    refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more
    detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?
    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Sat Aug 12 07:05:16 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/11/2017 5:56 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory >>>> by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why
    they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they
    refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more
    detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it
    it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun Aug 13 12:49:32 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:05:16 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/11/2017 5:56 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory >>>>> by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why >>>>> they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they >>>>> refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more
    detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it
    it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

    I already have several times invited you to tell me exactly what is
    your theory of global warming. Each time you have avoided the question
    and have asked me (as now) to explain what is wrong with your theory.

    That's odd.

    The ordinary reader could be forgiven for concluding that you don't
    know or understand the explanation commonly put forward for global
    warming. You instead seem to have a mindless response as though you
    have been conditioned to be an advocate without actually knowing why.
    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Sat Aug 12 21:33:20 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/12/2017 5:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:05:16 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/11/2017 5:56 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate
    Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory >>>>>> by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why >>>>>> they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they >>>>>> refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the
    theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people
    much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more >>>>> detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that
    man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could
    "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can
    warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories
    are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it
    it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

    I already have several times invited you to tell me exactly what is
    your theory of global warming. Each time you have avoided the question
    and have asked me (as now) to explain what is wrong with your theory.

    That's odd.

    The ordinary reader could be forgiven for concluding that you don't
    know or understand the explanation commonly put forward for global
    warming. You instead seem to have a mindless response as though you
    have been conditioned to be an advocate without actually knowing why.


    Which is to say, you don't have a clue about the real science.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun Aug 13 20:14:27 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:33:20 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/12/2017 5:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:05:16 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/11/2017 5:56 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate >>>>>>>>>>> Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory >>>>>>> by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why >>>>>>> they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they >>>>>>> refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the >>>>>> theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people >>>>>> much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more >>>>>> detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that >>>>>> man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could >>>>>> "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can >>>>>> warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories >>>>>> are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the
    subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it
    it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

    I already have several times invited you to tell me exactly what is
    your theory of global warming. Each time you have avoided the question
    and have asked me (as now) to explain what is wrong with your theory.

    That's odd.

    The ordinary reader could be forgiven for concluding that you don't
    know or understand the explanation commonly put forward for global
    warming. You instead seem to have a mindless response as though you
    have been conditioned to be an advocate without actually knowing why.


    Which is to say, you don't have a clue about the real science.

    Are you really saying that *I* don't have a clue about the real
    science for the reason that *you* don't know enough to tell me
    exactly what is *your* theory of global warming?

    Duh!
    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Sun Aug 13 07:42:48 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On 8/13/2017 1:14 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:33:20 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/12/2017 5:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:05:16 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/11/2017 5:56 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:49:27 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 8/10/2017 10:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 22:48:39 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 8/8/2017 8:43 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

    NYT Caught Switching Out Documents To Fix Botched Climate >>>>>>>>>>>> Change Article

    dailycaller.com
    Tuesday, August 8, 2017

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/nyt-caught-switching-out-documents-to-fix-botched-climate-change-article/

    Forwarded post:

    NY Times: All Lies, Smears, Innuendo, and Hatred of
    Conservatism. All. The. Time.

    Try this one apparently from 2011:

    NY Times Lies about Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin

    https://www.almanacnews.com/square/print/2015/02/16/new-york-times-caught-in--lie-about-scott-walker

    Posted by SoFloFreeper

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Doesn't matter how many drafts the NYT does on this
    thing, their climate change is BS. Total BS. They are
    trying to get us to focus on a lie that has no trail of
    consistently connecting dots leading to factual
    conclusion. NONE.

    They think fractional evidence introduced by seemingly
    credible sources is all they need to continue to press
    their lie.

    Only the gullible could possibly buy into such
    incredible, and unproven theories.

    Posted by rockinqsranch

    End of forwarded post.

    Forwarded post:

    Any common lunatic can refer to themselves as a 'climate
    scientist' and the media gobbles up whatever crap they
    spew out of their mouths as though it were scientific
    fact. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why >>>>>>>> they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they >>>>>>>> refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the >>>>>>> theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people >>>>>>> much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more >>>>>>> detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that >>>>>>> man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could >>>>>>> "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can >>>>>>> warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories >>>>>>> are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the >>>>>> subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it >>>> it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

    I already have several times invited you to tell me exactly what is
    your theory of global warming. Each time you have avoided the question
    and have asked me (as now) to explain what is wrong with your theory.

    That's odd.

    The ordinary reader could be forgiven for concluding that you don't
    know or understand the explanation commonly put forward for global
    warming. You instead seem to have a mindless response as though you
    have been conditioned to be an advocate without actually knowing why.


    Which is to say, you don't have a clue about the real science.

    Are you really saying that *I* don't have a clue about the real
    science for the reason that *you* don't know enough to tell me
    exactly what is *your* theory of global warming?

    Duh!

    It isn't "my" theory. It is well presented multiple places. You either
    know something about it or you don't. So, since YOU know it isn't true,
    despite the opinions of all the experts, I will leave it up to you to
    clearly refute it. Please, educate me.

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Mon Aug 14 09:28:43 2017
    XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, sci.environment

    On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:42:48 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    --- somebody has got to snip ---

    And anyone who can't understand and state clearly the scientific theory
    by which greenhouse gases can warm the planet and clearly explain why >>>>>>>>> they believe these theories are wrong is just blowing steam when they >>>>>>>>> refute the theories.

    I understand the claimed theory and I know several reasons why the >>>>>>>> theory abouit manmade CO2 is blatantly wrong. There are many people >>>>>>>> much more qualified than I who can do that better than I and in more >>>>>>>> detail, but still the Juggernaut rolls on.

    I wish you would similarly require that the people who believe that >>>>>>>> man made CO2 is the cause of such global warming as there is could >>>>>>>> "state clearly the scientific theory by which greenhouse gases can >>>>>>>> warm the planet and clearly explain why they believe these theories >>>>>>>> are" correct.


    Feel free to convince me with your well thought out thoughts on the >>>>>>> subject.

    You really want me to discuss the flaws in a theory without first
    making clear to me what that theory is?


    Please. Tell me the theory, and convince me it is wrong. If you know it >>>>> it wrong, you must know what the theory is.

    I already have several times invited you to tell me exactly what is
    your theory of global warming. Each time you have avoided the question >>>> and have asked me (as now) to explain what is wrong with your theory.

    That's odd.

    The ordinary reader could be forgiven for concluding that you don't
    know or understand the explanation commonly put forward for global
    warming. You instead seem to have a mindless response as though you
    have been conditioned to be an advocate without actually knowing why.


    Which is to say, you don't have a clue about the real science.

    Are you really saying that *I* don't have a clue about the real
    science for the reason that *you* don't know enough to tell me
    exactly what is *your* theory of global warming?

    Duh!

    It isn't "my" theory. It is well presented multiple places. You either
    know something about it or you don't. So, since YOU know it isn't true, >despite the opinions of all the experts, I will leave it up to you to
    clearly refute it. Please, educate me.

    I will tell you three things that are wrong with it:

    1. It is generally agreed that CO2 on its own will cause a
    temperature rise of only fractions of a degree C. All the extra
    heating is proposed as coming from a feed-back loop involving water
    vapour. The fundamental mathematics behind this theory is grossly
    flawed.

    2. The heating is proposed as being due to a hot layer in the
    atmosphere radiating back to the earth. No such layer has ever been
    found.

    3. The theory on which you are basing your faith has repeatedly
    failed to reliably forecast future climate. We now have more than 20
    years of climate which, as it has unrolled, has proved to differ
    markedly from the theoretical predictions. The empirical evidence is
    that the theory is wrong.
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    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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