• 'WE FAKED IT!' -- Top Obama Official Stabs Him In The Back With Hug

    From Clave@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 04:36:01 2017
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    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Dr. Jai Maharaj on Thu Sep 21 05:46:23 2017
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    On 9/20/2017 7:48 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
    Steven
    Koonin, the former Undersecretary of the Department of
    Energy

    In a new Wall Street Journal piece (Climate Science Is Not Settled,
    September 19) former BP scientist and DOE Undersecretary of Science
    Steven Koonin delivers a paradoxical case for climate change inaction.
    In a testament to just how strong the science is, he acknowledges the
    basic facts that humans are causing harmful warming, never flat-out
    stating that action isn’t needed. But Koonin mis-states a number of scientific details, and ultimately lures readers toward the conclusion
    that climate change isn’t an urgent problem. His choice of emphasis
    doesn’t hold up when confronted with all of the available evidence.

    We know that humans have warmed the climate
    Future projections run from bad to worse
    Uncertainty is a central concern of climate science, far from being covered up
    The IPCC is transparent and clear on uncertainty
    Reducing emissions is practical, achievable, and necessary now –
    and the status quo poses huge risks

    We know that humans have warmed the climate. Koonin is clear on this
    point, saying there’s “no hoax” and “little doubt” that humans are influencing the climate.

    http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2014/09/20/on-eve-of-climate-march-wsj-publishes-call-to-wait-and-do-nothing/

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  • From D.R. Strange@21:1/5 to Clave on Thu Sep 21 08:49:19 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 5:36 AM, Clave wrote:
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.



    Demotards are like that, eh scumsucking bivalve traitor?

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  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to eric.stevens@sum.co.nz on Thu Sep 21 17:46:28 2017
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    On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:55:47 +1200, Eric Stevens
    <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:

    On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:48:04 GMT, alt.fan.jai-maharaj@googlegroups.com
    (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:

    'We Faked It!' -- Top Obama Official Stabs Him In The
    Back With Huge Admission

    By Gary Maher
    usapoliticstoday.com

    Climate Change. Officials from the former Obama White
    House are starting to speak out against the corrupt
    administration now that it is safe to come forward. It's
    about time!

    The most recent official to come forward is Steven
    Koonin, the former Undersecretary of the Department of
    Energy. He is accusing President Obama of fabricating
    scientific evidence proving "climate change".

    "What you saw coming out of the press releases about
    climate data, climate analysis, was, I'd say, misleading,
    sometimes just wrong," Koonin told the Wall Street
    Journal.

    According to Koonin, multiple departments responsible for
    environmental science either misrepresented data or
    completely fabricated results to justify the policies of
    the Obama administration.

    Scientists at NASA and the National Ocean and Atmospheric
    Administration (NOAA) colluded with press officers to
    create misleading press releases that supported the
    former president's agenda.

    Koonin isn't the only Obama-era official claiming
    wrongdoing by the Obama administration. Retired principle
    climate scientist Dr. John Bates testified before a House
    Committee in February claiming that the NOAA was
    manipulating data.

    Dr. Bates claimed that "the Karl study" was politically
    motivated and not supported by data. "The Karl study" was
    a report designed to account for the apparent slowing of
    global temperature growth.

    Liberals want to prove that climate change is a real and
    dangerous phenomenon to justify increased regulation and
    size of government.

    Scientists, motivated by politics, have completely
    abandoned the scientific method to support their personal
    opinion. And an entire industry has been created around
    the false notion that the earth is getting warmer.

    Continues at:

    https://www.usapoliticstoday.com/official-climate-change-obama/


    Then there is >https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4503006/global-warming-sums-experts-bullies-james-delingpole-opinion/
    or http://tinyurl.com/yak7zqux


    Assertions alone don't PROVE anything ... but if
    they came from a higher-level pol then they're sure
    something that needs to be looked into.

    The American 'left' has long been engaged in what
    can only be described as a scheme to undermine
    the sources of American prosperity and power ...
    under the theory that the USA is the worst evil in
    the world, ever, and needs to be castrated. What
    the "climate crisis" requires as a fix would serve
    that agenda quite nicely.

    So I'm very suspicious of the GW crowd. It's far
    less 'science' now than it is 'politics'. They have
    ulterior motives.

    Of course there's also a fanatical "GW Hoax" crowd
    that's also suspicious and is likely funded by those
    with ulterior motives. Again less 'science' than
    'politics' and $$$ issues.

    The Truth - if the body of actual scientific data actually
    prove much of anything at all - probably lies in-between
    the two extremes. Of course that's *boring* and you
    can't make any money off a dull so-so problem.

    As for "Dr. Jai" ... he just does copy/paste rather
    a lot - not much attempt at analysis.

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  • From carl@21:1/5 to Clave on Thu Sep 21 14:47:19 2017
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    "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com> wrote in message news:oq0873$5nj$1@dont-email.me...
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

    Its not desperate horseshit dude. Obama is a corrupt pres. How he was
    able to lie to get in the WH...so he can have power. Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.


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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to carl on Thu Sep 21 15:37:30 2017
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    "carl" <cstandifer@bak.rr.com> wrote in message news:zrWwB.70809$t03.128@fx23.iad...

    "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com> wrote in message news:oq0873$5nj$1@dont-email.me...
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

    Its not desperate horseshit dude. Obama is a corrupt pres. How he was
    able to lie to get in the WH...so he can have power. Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.

    I think I see your problem.

    You're a complete fool.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to carl on Thu Sep 21 16:01:41 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 2:47 PM, carl wrote:

    "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com> wrote in message news:oq0873$5nj$1@dont-email.me...
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

    Its not desperate horseshit dude. Obama is a corrupt pres. How he was
    able to lie to get in the WH...so he can have power. Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.




    Even your hero Trump has told you that's not true.

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  • From D.R. Strange@21:1/5 to Bob F on Thu Sep 21 17:31:25 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 5:01 PM, Bob F wrote:
    Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.




    Even your hero Trump has told you that's not true.

    SFW?!?!?!?!

    Meanwhile the truth WAS made public:

    http://www.azfamily.com/story/28346221/arpaio-unveils-results-of-obama-birth-certificate-investigation


    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his
    volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good
    faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio.

    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    He also said the Selective Service card completed by Obama in 1980 in
    Hawaii also was most likely a forgery.

    “Investigators believe that the long-form birth certificate was
    manufactured electronically and did not originate in a paper format as
    claimed by the White House,” said Arpaio.

    Even though the White House released Obama's birth certificate online
    last year, a group of Arizona Tea Party members asked Arpaio to
    investigate the document shortly after.

    The sheriff launched his volunteer cold case posse to start digging.

    Six months later the results are in.

    “The document has failed every test we put it through,” said volunteer
    lead investigator Michael Zullo.

    Zullo said the date and time stamp on the birth certificate appear
    imported and he suspects the president's birth certificate is forged.

    Outside the sheriff’s office Arpaio supporters and opponents squared off.

    “I think sheriff Arpaio is looking for headlines, he is trying to divert attention away from problems he has caused in this county,” said Daniel Martinez with the group Citizens For A Better Arizona.

    Martinez said Arizona doesn't need a sheriff meddling in Obama's affairs.

    Instead Martinez wants Arpaio to focus on the Department of Justice's investigation into his office.

    “He has not investigated over 400 sex crimes against children,” said Martinez.

    The sheriff said he wasn’t accusing Obama of forging his birth certificate.

    The volunteer Cold Case Posse has made an ID of a person of interest
    into the suspected forgery.

    Not everyone is buying what the sheriff is selling.

    The Arizona Democratic Party responded by calling on its party to "Stop
    the ridiculous tea part, birther GOP nonsence" and make a donation to
    the party today.

    The sheriff said no tax payer dollars were used during this investigation.

    Obama's campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt offered a light-hearted dismissal
    of Arpaio's probe -- hetweeted what he referred to as a "live link" to
    the sheriff's news conference, but instead provided a link to a snippet
    of the old conspiracy-theory based TV series, "The X-Files.

    Hawaii Department of Health: Frequently Asked Questions about Vital
    Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II

    Maricopa County Sheriff's Department press release

    VIDEOS RELEASED AS PART OF ARPAIO'S INVESTIGATION OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
    BIRTH CERTIFICATE:

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  • From carl@21:1/5 to Bob F on Thu Sep 21 16:24:00 2017
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    Ask Alan Keyes....He knows Obama was born in Kenya.
    Alan Keyes is a black man.

    "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message news:oq1gg4$u57$1@dont-email.me...
    On 9/21/2017 2:47 PM, carl wrote:

    "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com> wrote in message
    news:oq0873$5nj$1@dont-email.me...
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

    Its not desperate horseshit dude. Obama is a corrupt pres. How he was
    able to lie to get in the WH...so he can have power. Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.




    Even your hero Trump has told you that's not true.

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  • From D.R. Strange@21:1/5 to Clave on Thu Sep 21 17:33:01 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 4:37 PM, Clave wrote:

    ---hid the followups like a cat with his shit---

    You're a complete fool.


    Said the scum filtering Clam to his better in every measurable way...

    Die soon, Jim.

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  • From D.R. Strange@21:1/5 to carl on Thu Sep 21 17:33:59 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 3:47 PM, carl wrote:
    "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com> wrote in message news:oq0873$5nj$1@dont-email.me...
    Wow-- that's some pretty desperate horseshit.

    Its not desperate horseshit dude. Obama is a corrupt pres. How he was
    able to lie to get in the WH...so he can have power. Obama been lying
    before he was elected. He is from Kenya. Not Hawaii.




    Ayup:



    http://www.azfamily.com/story/28346221/arpaio-unveils-results-of-obama-birth-certificate-investigation


    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his
    volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good
    faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio.

    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    He also said the Selective Service card completed by Obama in 1980 in
    Hawaii also was most likely a forgery.

    “Investigators believe that the long-form birth certificate was
    manufactured electronically and did not originate in a paper format as
    claimed by the White House,” said Arpaio.

    Even though the White House released Obama's birth certificate online
    last year, a group of Arizona Tea Party members asked Arpaio to
    investigate the document shortly after.

    The sheriff launched his volunteer cold case posse to start digging.

    Six months later the results are in.

    “The document has failed every test we put it through,” said volunteer
    lead investigator Michael Zullo.

    Zullo said the date and time stamp on the birth certificate appear
    imported and he suspects the president's birth certificate is forged.

    Outside the sheriff’s office Arpaio supporters and opponents squared off.

    “I think sheriff Arpaio is looking for headlines, he is trying to divert attention away from problems he has caused in this county,” said Daniel Martinez with the group Citizens For A Better Arizona.

    Martinez said Arizona doesn't need a sheriff meddling in Obama's affairs.

    Instead Martinez wants Arpaio to focus on the Department of Justice's investigation into his office.

    “He has not investigated over 400 sex crimes against children,” said Martinez.

    The sheriff said he wasn’t accusing Obama of forging his birth certificate.

    The volunteer Cold Case Posse has made an ID of a person of interest
    into the suspected forgery.

    Not everyone is buying what the sheriff is selling.

    The Arizona Democratic Party responded by calling on its party to "Stop
    the ridiculous tea part, birther GOP nonsence" and make a donation to
    the party today.

    The sheriff said no tax payer dollars were used during this investigation.

    Obama's campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt offered a light-hearted dismissal
    of Arpaio's probe -- hetweeted what he referred to as a "live link" to
    the sheriff's news conference, but instead provided a link to a snippet
    of the old conspiracy-theory based TV series, "The X-Files.

    Hawaii Department of Health: Frequently Asked Questions about Vital
    Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II

    Maricopa County Sheriff's Department press release

    VIDEOS RELEASED AS PART OF ARPAIO'S INVESTIGATION OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
    BIRTH CERTIFICATE:

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 19:32:29 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 4:31 PM, D.R. Strange wrote:

    LOL!

    You mean this Arpaio? What a loser


    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to D.R. Strange on Thu Sep 21 19:55:25 2017
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    On 9/21/2017 4:31 PM, D.R. Strange wrote:
    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio.

    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    You mean that convicted criminal Arpaio?

    Try reading this

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/

    And I'm shocked at all you people calling Trump a lier. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Sep 22 20:28:42 2017
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    On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:55:25 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/21/2017 4:31 PM, D.R. Strange wrote:
    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his
    volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good
    faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio.

    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    You mean that convicted criminal Arpaio?

    Try reading this

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/

    And I'm shocked at all you people calling Trump a lier. >http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html

    So am I. Fancy calling him a lier.

    If I was in your shoes I would have called him a liar.

    But then I'm not in your shoes either.
    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Fri Sep 22 01:31:32 2017
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    "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message news:bai9sct1fob3qf7oe16m5ckmq6fj6kp8lm@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:55:25 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/21/2017 4:31 PM, D.R. Strange wrote:
    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his
    volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good >>> faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio.

    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    You mean that convicted criminal Arpaio?

    Try reading this
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/

    And I'm shocked at all you people calling Trump a lier. >>http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html

    So am I. Fancy calling him a lier.

    If I was in your shoes I would have called him a liar.
    ^
    were


    HTH, HAND

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 12:28:14 2017
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    On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:31:32 -0700, "Clave" <clavius@themonastery.com>
    wrote:


    "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message >news:bai9sct1fob3qf7oe16m5ckmq6fj6kp8lm@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:55:25 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/21/2017 4:31 PM, D.R. Strange wrote:
    Posted: Mar 01, 2012 3:56 PM MST
    Updated: Mar 10, 2015 1:47 AM MDT

    By Catherine Holland
    By Catherine Holland
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has unveiled
    preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his
    volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack
    Obama's birth certificate.

    “Based on all the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good >>>> faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” said Arpaio. >>>>
    Arpaio, a Republican, is making bold accusations about Democratic
    president Barack Obama's birth certificate.

    You mean that convicted criminal Arpaio?

    Try reading this
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/

    And I'm shocked at all you people calling Trump a lier. >>>http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html

    So am I. Fancy calling him a lier.

    If I was in your shoes I would have called him a liar.
    ^
    were

    :-)

    HTH, HAND



    --

    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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