• I2C relay boards.

    From David Lesher@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 00:33:51 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    I have need for a 8-16 channel I2C in, relay out expansion board.
    We're now using:
    <https://www.ereshop.com/shop/free/I2C-RL8xxM_SHEET.pdf>
    but the shipping is insane.

    So I'm seeking an alternative supplier. I figure one approach is
    to find a forum where Arduino users hang out, and ask there.

    Any suggestions for board suppliers or forums?
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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Thu Oct 26 06:22:11 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote:
    I have need for a 8-16 channel I2C in, relay out expansion board.
    We're now using:
    <https://www.ereshop.com/shop/free/I2C-RL8xxM_SHEET.pdf>
    but the shipping is insane.

    So I'm seeking an alternative supplier. I figure one approach is
    to find a forum where Arduino users hang out, and ask there.

    Any suggestions for board suppliers or forums?

    PCF8574-I2C-Bidirectional-I-O-Expander-Relay-Control-SmartHome-Ardiuno-Raspberry

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/282692860765 US $2.90

    Used with:

    /8-Eight-Channel-5V-Relay-Module-Board-with-Optocoupler-Power-Supply-PIC-ARM

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/322834065204 US $6.39


    gives you eight relays for $9.29 plus some wires between the modules.

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Thu Oct 26 15:35:10 2017
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    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:


    PCF8574-I2C-Bidirectional-I-O-Expander-Relay-Control-SmartHome-Ardiuno-Raspberry

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/282692860765 US $2.90

    Used with:

    /8-Eight-Channel-5V-Relay-Module-Board-with-Optocoupler-Power-Supply-PIC-ARM

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/322834065204 US $6.39

    gives you eight relays for $9.29 plus some wires between the modules.

    Seen many versions of that. Want an integrated board w/relays. Found several but all thus far are international $hipping.


    --
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    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Thu Oct 26 13:19:06 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:


    PCF8574-I2C-Bidirectional-I-O-Expander-Relay-Control-SmartHome-Ardiuno-Raspberry

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/282692860765 US $2.90

    Used with:

    /8-Eight-Channel-5V-Relay-Module-Board-with-Optocoupler-Power-Supply-PIC-ARM

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/322834065204 US $6.39

    gives you eight relays for $9.29 plus some wires between the modules.

    Seen many versions of that. Want an integrated board w/relays. Found
    several but all thus far are international $hipping.


    OK, make your own. A schematic of that board is online.

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  • From rickman@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Fri Oct 27 00:54:40 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote on 10/26/2017 11:35 AM:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:


    PCF8574-I2C-Bidirectional-I-O-Expander-Relay-Control-SmartHome-Ardiuno-Raspberry

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/282692860765 US $2.90

    Used with:

    /8-Eight-Channel-5V-Relay-Module-Board-with-Optocoupler-Power-Supply-PIC-ARM

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/322834065204 US $6.39

    gives you eight relays for $9.29 plus some wires between the modules.

    Seen many versions of that. Want an integrated board w/relays. Found several but all thus far are international $hipping.

    I don't follow what is so bad about international shipping? The typical
    vendor of inexpensive boards is in Asia and ships for free. I found two on eBay that sell 8 channel I2C relay boards with a different form factor for
    $80 or $90 in the US. Where are you?

    --

    Rick C

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    on the centerline of totality since 1998

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Fri Oct 27 15:43:41 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:



    OK, make your own. A schematic of that board is online.


    Worst option. Avoiding manufacturing anything; just exponential time-sink. Would prefer the integrated board but may end up with split approach.
    --
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    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Fri Oct 27 14:12:07 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:



    OK, make your own. A schematic of that board is online.


    Worst option. Avoiding manufacturing anything; just exponential time-sink. Would prefer the integrated board but may end up with split approach.

    The split configuration would make it easier to repair, and the
    control boards can be plugged end to end. You can eliminate the jumpers
    on the headers with a drop of solder on the underside of the boards.

    If a relay board or controller board fails, it will be much cheaper
    to repair. You can buy ready made 40 conductor cables with single Dupont contacts on Ebay to harness them together. I remove the single contact
    shells and replace them with a single, with the proper number of
    positions. That way, my projects look a lot neater than the typical wad
    of individual wires.

    I may use a pair of these boards in a custom, multiple iron
    soldering station that I'm building.

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to rickman on Sat Oct 28 04:58:39 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:


    I don't follow what is so bad about international shipping? The typical >vendor of inexpensive boards is in Asia and ships for free. I found two on >eBay that sell 8 channel I2C relay boards with a different form factor for >$80 or $90 in the US. Where are you?

    The best boards we've found are: <https://www.ereshop.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=143_178&products_id=767>
    as they come with 24V relays, an advantage.

    But price it out:

    $35 board, $31 of shipping.

    And form factor does matter to us.

    --
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    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Sat Oct 28 05:04:44 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:


    The split configuration would make it easier to repair, and the
    control boards can be plugged end to end. You can eliminate the jumpers
    on the headers with a drop of solder on the underside of the boards.

    If a relay board or controller board fails, it will be much cheaper
    to repair. You can buy ready made 40 conductor cables with single Dupont >contacts on Ebay to harness them together. I remove the single contact
    shells and replace them with a single, with the proper number of
    positions. That way, my projects look a lot neater than the typical wad
    of individual wires.

    40?

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    --
    A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Sat Oct 28 06:46:07 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:


    The split configuration would make it easier to repair, and the
    control boards can be plugged end to end. You can eliminate the jumpers
    on the headers with a drop of solder on the underside of the boards.

    If a relay board or controller board fails, it will be much cheaper
    to repair. You can buy ready made 40 conductor cables with single Dupont
    contacts on Ebay to harness them together. I remove the single contact
    shells and replace them with a single, with the proper number of
    positions. That way, my projects look a lot neater than the typical wad
    of individual wires.

    40?

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    Yes, ribbon cable. Peel off as many conductors as you need. The color
    code repeats every ten conductors.

    T1-3X-40pcs-20cm-Male-To-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Cable-Arduino-Breadboard

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/231708399395

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  • From rickman@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Sat Oct 28 14:27:47 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote on 10/28/2017 2:23 PM:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    Yes, ribbon cable. Peel off as many conductors as you need. The color
    code repeats every ten conductors.

    T1-3X-40pcs-20cm-Male-To-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Cable-Arduino-Breadboard

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/231708399395


    I'd rather use an IDC connector that matches the headers; less
    chance something gets loose/ is misconnected.

    The IDC connector is a solid block and fixed size. The "Dupont" cables can
    be used in any width or as individual wires. The connectors on the end
    aren't tied on with string. They work great. You can get them in either
    male or female on both ends and in any combination. Very flexible indeed.

    --

    Rick C

    Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
    on the centerline of totality since 1998

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Sat Oct 28 18:23:38 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    Yes, ribbon cable. Peel off as many conductors as you need. The color
    code repeats every ten conductors.

    T1-3X-40pcs-20cm-Male-To-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Cable-Arduino-Breadboard

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/231708399395


    I'd rather use an IDC connector that matches the headers; less
    chance something gets loose/ is misconnected.
    --
    A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From David Lesher@21:1/5 to rickman on Sat Oct 28 18:38:43 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:


    The IDC connector is a solid block and fixed size. The "Dupont" cables can >be used in any width or as individual wires. The connectors on the end >aren't tied on with string. They work great. You can get them in either >male or female on both ends and in any combination. Very flexible indeed.

    Yes, I see. But they are fixed length. With ribbon+IDC, I can make the cables the correct length.


    --
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    & no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
    Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
    is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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  • From rickman@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Sat Oct 28 14:51:40 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote on 10/28/2017 2:38 PM:
    rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:


    The IDC connector is a solid block and fixed size. The "Dupont" cables can >> be used in any width or as individual wires. The connectors on the end
    aren't tied on with string. They work great. You can get them in either
    male or female on both ends and in any combination. Very flexible indeed.

    Yes, I see. But they are fixed length. With ribbon+IDC, I can make the cables the correct length.

    They are available in many lengths, mostly multiples of 5 cm. Works for me.

    --

    Rick C

    Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
    on the centerline of totality since 1998

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Sat Oct 28 15:27:20 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    David Lesher wrote:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    Yes, ribbon cable. Peel off as many conductors as you need. The color
    code repeats every ten conductors.

    T1-3X-40pcs-20cm-Male-To-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Cable-Arduino-Breadboard

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/231708399395


    I'd rather use an IDC connector that matches the headers; less
    chance something gets loose/ is misconnected.


    Really? Have you ever used the Dupont connectors? They are reliable,
    and inexpensive.

    I've used thousands of them, along with IDC. Only a keyed header and
    a keyed IDC connector will prevent misconnecting a cable. The color
    coded wire that I mentioned makes it easy, since they follow the
    standard color code. Start with black for pin one. Consider it the
    stripe on typical ribbon cable.

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  • From rickman@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Sat Oct 28 17:01:48 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    Michael A Terrell wrote on 10/28/2017 3:27 PM:
    David Lesher wrote:
    Michael A Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

    I need some 10 position one-row headers but will likely use
    two-row 20's and ignore the other. I do plan to plug them end
    to end but will need to hold them. Thinking a slotted /______\
    piece of soft plastic that in turn is mounted to the DIN rail.

    Yes, ribbon cable. Peel off as many conductors as you need. The color
    code repeats every ten conductors.

    T1-3X-40pcs-20cm-Male-To-Male-Female-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Cable-Arduino-Breadboard


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/231708399395


    I'd rather use an IDC connector that matches the headers; less
    chance something gets loose/ is misconnected.


    Really? Have you ever used the Dupont connectors? They are reliable, and inexpensive.

    I've used thousands of them, along with IDC. Only a keyed header and a keyed IDC connector will prevent misconnecting a cable. The color coded wire that I mentioned makes it easy, since they follow the standard color code. Start with black for pin one. Consider it the stripe on typical ribbon cable.

    Shouldn't black be pin zero?

    --

    Rick C

    Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
    on the centerline of totality since 1998

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to rickman on Sat Oct 28 23:43:47 2017
    XPost: sci.electronics.design

    rickman wrote:

    Shouldn't black be pin zero?


    If you can find a pin zero, you can use it.

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