Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70% cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and 100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the world includes
Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with
lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70%
cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff
full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and
100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures
was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the
world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70%
cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff
full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and
100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures
was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the
world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit >flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
On a sunny day (Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <vj9236$t4hr$3@dont-email.me>:
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
Do not remember having tried that...
PS
the reason I put a question mark in the subject line is that I really hope those guys are not confusing cause and effect.
There was this German prof who showed his students that in the same village that had the most storks there were also the most child births.
So, warned his students that statistics is dangerous and that that does not prove storks bring kids.
I could imagine people with some sort of leaning towards diabetes having less desire for chocolate?
It all depends.
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70%
cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff
full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and
100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures
was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the
world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit >flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in
a life raft or a prison cell.
I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and
killing it.
Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70%
cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff
full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and
100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures
was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the
world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in
a life raft or a prison cell.
I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and
killing it.
Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.
On 10/12/2024 14:16, Jan Panteltje wrote:
PS
the reason I put a question mark in the subject line is that I really hope >> those guys are not confusing cause and effect.
There was this German prof who showed his students that in the same village >> that had the most storks there were also the most child births.
So, warned his students that statistics is dangerous and that that does not >> prove storks bring kids.
I could imagine people with some sort of leaning towards diabetes having less
desire for chocolate?
It all depends.
My favourite in that line of correlation vs causation is length of name vs faintness for asteroids.
Early ones got Greek and Roman Gods names Iris, Juno, Ceres, Vesta etc.
More recently they are numbered and then named for famous(ish) people:
2675 Tolkien (unusually short)
4015 Wilson–Harrington (unusually long for a low numbered one)
50719 Elizabethgriffin
Increasingly they just have discovery numbers and a set of orbital elements saved just in case someone wants to observe them again.
Finding Earth orbit crossing ones has become something of a growth industry lately since they could pose an existential threat to us.
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/12/2024 05:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
That is probably because there is comparatively little sugar in >70%
cocoa solids dark chocolate and mostly expensive natural cocoa butter.
It is far more likely that consuming the other cheap and nasty stuff
full of dodgy fats and loads of sugar is *causing* type 2 diabetes.
I like chocolate up to 85% cocoa solids and I have tasted 90%, 95% and
100% which are all too bitter for my palate. One of the Xmas lectures
was on chocolate a few years back. Best high quality chocolate in the
world includes Swiss, Portuguese, Belgian and Japanese.
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in
a life raft or a prison cell.
I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and
killing it.
The vomit taste of Hershey bars used to be from the sour milk formula.
My Hebridean crofter ancestors (Nicolson of Skye) used to prefer drinking >sour milk, and a lot of butter used to be made from sour cream. (Thats
why the modern stuff says sweet cream butter on the package.)
Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.
Cadbury and Co. licensed their name to Mars or somebody, who aggressively >pursue anyone selling the real stuff.
Ritter Sport, you can still get, and its better than Cadbury or Tobler >anyway.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On 10/12/2024 15:51, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in
a life raft or a prison cell.
Maybe... but I'd have to think carefully about it.
I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and
killing it.
Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.
Cadbury was better before it was taken over and ruined by Kraft. I think
to a large extent people think chocolate is whatever they grew up with.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cadburys-chocolate-fairtrade-fair-trade-mark-farmers-kraft-american-brand-abandoned-promise-a7445826.html
Dove is a soap brand in the UK >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_(Unilever_brand)
I wouldn't dream of eating it as chocolate.
I presume like Kenwood Hifi (foodmixers only in UK) the branding is very >different in the USA. I don't recall noticing Dove chocolate there.
PS
the reason I put a question mark in the subject line is that I really hope those guys are not confusing cause and effect.
There was this German prof who showed his students that in the same village that had the most storks there were also the most child births.
So, warned his students that statistics is dangerous and that that does not prove storks bring kids.
I could imagine people with some sort of leaning towards diabetes having less desire for chocolate?
It all depends.
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:25:36 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/12/2024 15:51, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit >>>> flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
The Hershey Special Dark bars are OK in an emergency, like stranded in
a life raft or a prison cell.
Maybe... but I'd have to think carefully about it.
I won't forgive Hershey for buying Joseph Schmidt Confections and
killing it.
Cadbury is mostly inedible. As is Dove.
Cadbury was better before it was taken over and ruined by Kraft. I think
to a large extent people think chocolate is whatever they grew up with.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cadburys-chocolate-fairtrade-fair-trade-mark-farmers-kraft-american-brand-abandoned-promise-a7445826.html
Dove is a soap brand in the UK >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_(Unilever_brand)
I wouldn't dream of eating it as chocolate.
Dove is a soap here as well. Favored by some (mostly women) with dry
skin, far too greasy for me.
Dove is a soap brand in the UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_(Unilever_brand)
I wouldn't dream of eating it as chocolate.
I presume like Kenwood Hifi (foodmixers only in UK) the branding is very different in the USA. I don't recall noticing Dove chocolate there.
On 10/12/2024 13:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:36:35 +0000) it happened Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <vj9236$t4hr$3@dont-email.me>:
We also had US Hershey bar available to taste - the world's only vomit
flavoured "chocolate" (doesn't meet EU regulations to be chocolate).
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Hersheys-not-popular-in-Europe
Do not remember having tried that...
You would if you had. I try it again about once a decade to see if it is >really as bad as I remember it. Some things like durian fruit and natto
smell terrible but taste delicious (at least if you like strong tastes
like very blue cheese). Hershey bars smell bad and taste even worse.
It used to be only available on US airbases in the UK until recently.
Now one of the supermarkets, Morrisons has it on the shelves. Doesn't
really sell to anyone apart from to homesick US expats.
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/hershey-s-milk-chocolate/110782496
On 12/9/24 9:02 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
So that means if I eat a lot of these I'll never become diabetic? :-)
https://www.vermontcountrystore.com/anthon-berg-single-malt-scotch-chocolate-bottles/product/81584
I just bought a box. Delicious!
And yeah, this being the nanny state of California I had to show my
driver's license before they'd sell me the box.
On a sunny day (Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:47:50 -0800) it happened Joerg ><news@analogconsultants.com> wrote in <lrrr86F5vjnU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 12/9/24 9:02 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
So that means if I eat a lot of these I'll never become diabetic? :-)
https://www.vermontcountrystore.com/anthon-berg-single-malt-scotch-chocolate-bottles/product/81584
I just bought a box. Delicious!
And yeah, this being the nanny state of California I had to show my >>driver's license before they'd sell me the box.
I stopped drinking alcohol in the late seventies.
Became a veggy too back then.
I still have a bottle of wine I got as present from those early days somewhere.
Before that I drank Johnnie Walker whisky ...
and a lot of other stuff, wine, beer,
smoked lots of stuff <>, stopped smoking back then too.
lived above a sherry bar for years...
Have not really missed it.
Apple juice, Orange juice, H20, it will do for me.
On a sunny day (Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:26:01 +0000) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <vj9j1s$108f4$1@dont-email.me>:
It used to be only available on US airbases in the UK until recently.
Now one of the supermarkets, Morrisons has it on the shelves. Doesn't
really sell to anyone apart from to homesick US expats.
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/hershey-s-milk-chocolate/110782496
Thank you, I am warned!
Have not seen it here yet...
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
It is definitely the sort of thing that you should try once.
I enjoyed durian fruit but people sat near me afterwards didn't,
Am 11.12.24 um 11:59 schrieb Martin Brown:
It is definitely the sort of thing that you should try once.
I enjoyed durian fruit but people sat near me afterwards didn't,
An Indonesian-Chinese friend once told me that it is forbidden
to carry durian in public transportation in Singapore.
The taste of it was ok, the smell not so.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:02:33 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
Last week it was cancer.
My favorite was 'rancid pepper oil causing prostate cancer'
Someone must have cornered the market on pepper grinders, before
putting that one out.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:02:33 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
Last week it was cancer.
My favorite was 'rancid pepper oil causing prostate cancer'
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 08:43:31 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:02:33 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
Last week it was cancer.
My favorite was 'rancid pepper oil causing prostate cancer'
Bummer. That was one of my favorite ingredients.
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:51:44 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 08:43:31 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:02:33 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Eating dark chocolate linked with reduced risk of type 2 diabetes
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241204183114.htm
Source:
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Summary:
Consuming dark, but not milk, chocolate may be associated with lower risk of
developing type 2 diabetes (T2D), according to a new study.
Last week it was cancer.
My favorite was 'rancid pepper oil causing prostate cancer'
Bummer. That was one of my favorite ingredients.
. . . and was the big tell in the news story. It's not
a commodity that's measurable, nor is there any possibility
of statistically valid control groups.
I've always wondered how it got past the broadcaster's
stink test. CBC
RL
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