• OT: Don't let Peanut Die For Nothing

    From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 4 23:37:45 2024
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

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  • From Hoppy@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Nov 4 17:56:46 2024
    On 11/4/24 15:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    Peanut was abducted and murdered in Republican Chemung County.

    As of 2024, the Chemung County Legislature includes 13 Republicans and 2 Democrats.
    In presidential elections, Chemung County tends to vote Republican.
    In 2016, Donald Trump carried Chemung County with 55.64% of the vote
    compared to Hillary Clinton's 38.09%. Trump carried the county again in
    2020 with over 55% of the vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemung_County,_New_York


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Hoppy on Tue Nov 5 00:30:47 2024
    On 11/4/2024 8:56 PM, Hoppy wrote:
    On 11/4/24 15:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    Peanut was abducted and murdered in Republican Chemung County.

    As of 2024, the Chemung County Legislature includes 13 Republicans and 2 Democrats.
    In presidential elections, Chemung County tends to vote Republican.
    In 2016, Donald Trump carried Chemung County with 55.64% of the vote
    compared to Hillary Clinton's 38.09%. Trump carried the county again in
    2020 with over 55% of the vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemung_County,_New_York


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-
    peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    Yeah I don't know why people go to the pet store or animal shelter in
    the US when the forests are full of all sorts of perfectly good animals,
    even coyotes or "forest puppies" as some prefer to call them.

    You can just go into any random woods and have your kids pick out the
    free dog they like best. Herr Trump has been known to intervene on
    behalf of children's forest puppies on several occasions.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Nov 9 23:33:52 2024
    On 9/11/2024 4:51 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.

    I would expect somebody of your age to have understood a bit more of how the US works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

    What you are actually expecting is that I'm just as demented as you are
    because I'm of a similar age. Dementia doesn't work that way.

    Lunatics like you have a wide variety of silly idea. People who haven't developed the disorder don't.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 13:26:00 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 05:51:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.


    I would expect somebo[d]y of your age to have understood a bit more of how the YouAsh works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

    As expected, Team Trump have announced they will not be supporting
    Ukraine, thank god. That could have turned *very* nasty indeed. In
    fact it's interesting to note that the price of gold fell
    substantially on the outcome of the US election. Gold has been rising
    of late due to the increase in international tension. When Trump won,
    that was interpreted as a positive signal for peace by the precious
    metals markets. Of course you'll have damn fools like Bill Sloman
    who'll try to tell you differently, but investors are staking their
    own cash on peace with Russia and you can't get a more reliable and
    genuine guide than that.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 13:32:28 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance. >>>>>>
    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no >>>>>> way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
    why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some >>>> amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly >>>> white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession
    crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling.

    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

    I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the
    will of the people yet.

    Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly
    obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on
    large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his >intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and
    quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd
    been more competent.

    These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
    stop at literally nothing to get their way.

    With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry.


    But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming >> of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

    Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place".

    "It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: ??
    ("not") and ????? ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when >'described in considerable detail'.

    America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture,
    but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily, >anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as
    most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and
    less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come
    from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money
    on helping politicians they like.

    Universal health care is *hugely* expensive. The only reason those
    Europeans can - just about - afford it is because the US has been
    paying for their defense for decades. When they finally have to pay
    for their own, you can expect vicious cuts to those benefits.


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Nov 9 14:17:10 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:45:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/9/2024 1:06 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.

    You're talking about Democrats, though. I'm talking about the kind of
    candidate who could have won over the floating/undecided voters in the
    swing states.

    Most of whom weren't well educated, and were susceptible to Trump's lies.

    A Democrat candidate who could have out-lied him is conceivable, but no
    name springs to mind. Trump has been lying on a industrial scale for
    most of his career and has a string of bankruptcies to show for it.

    The take-away message is that America needs to clean up it's secondary
    education system, but it is unique in that it's primary and secondary
    education system is run and paid for by tiny school districts.

    The US constitution was written before universal education was
    economically feasible - it took Turnip Townsend's agricultural
    revolution to make it possible - and education isn't a responsibility of
    the nation or the individual states.


    Trump managed to attract a significant fraction of the Jewish-American, >Muslim-American, _and_ neo-Nazi/white supremacist vote simultaneously, a >rather remarkable feat in its way. Maybe he should get a Nobel peace
    prize, lol..

    He won't. These days they only dish those out to warmongers. I would
    suggest Zelensky would be the next recipient.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 14:23:43 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:46:22 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 5:03 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:05:30 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every >>>>> pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main >>>>> selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has
    been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a
    brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash >>> and money flowing overseas, keep a bunch of Trumps policies, but at
    least not be him. It's insufficient.

    Anyway, maybe there should have been a primary.....

    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Obviously not. You are a right-wing lunatic, and not susceptible to
    rational argument.

    They threw away their chance with this pick. Having the
    prospect of the 'first black woman ever to be US president' might
    sound grand to you or your cohort, but it's utterly meaningless to
    folks who care more about their pocket-book than the colour or gender
    of a candidate. As someone once said, "It's the economy, stupid."

    The economy was actually doing fine under Biden, but the inflation
    caused by the Covid-19 pandemic meant that regular citizens didn't
    realise this, and it's not an easy idea to get across.

    Especially since there are 75 million developmentally subnormal people
    in the US, as Bill believes.
    The pandemic did *not* cause the inflation. THAT was generated
    directly as a result of the ludicrous response to the pandemic by
    various governments across the world who should have simply let the
    damn thing rip. But that's governments for you: always sticking their
    noses in and making everything 10X worse. The Gipper was dead right.


    Trying to do it in a late-starting campaign doesn't seem to have been
    seen as practicable.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 14:27:07 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:32:38 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 5:10 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:18:09 -0500, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >>> illeagal people in the city.

    Ignorant people like Bill Sloman think that squirrels are just rats
    with a bushy tail, but they are *way* more intelligent and social.

    Squirrels and rats are both rodents, and both are moderately social
    animals - rats more so than squirrels.

    https://critterstop.com/post/can-rats-and-squirrels-live-together-understanding-their-coexistence-in-urban-environments/

    Cursitor Doom is remarkably ignorant, and doesn't seem to have any idea
    quite how ignorant he really is.

    They're easy to tame and enjoy human company. And they care about each
    other more than a lot of humans do.This short clip is very touching
    and shows this not untypical behaviour:

    Snipped the usual sentimental nonsense.

    No need to keep proving you're a psychopath, Bill; we already know
    that.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 07:03:55 2024
    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Sat Nov 9 15:51:31 2024
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 23:33:52 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgnkrv$3p31a$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:51 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.

    I would expect somebody of your age to have understood a bit more of how the US works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

    What you are actually expecting is that I'm just as demented as you are >because I'm of a similar age. Dementia doesn't work that way.

    Lunatics like you have a wide variety of silly idea. People who haven't >developed the disorder don't.


    I know you left here and are now hanging upside down down-under
    to prevent peeing out your brain cells,
    but it proves that method does not really work.
    So keep it up!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 16:07:56 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:51:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 23:33:52 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgnkrv$3p31a$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:51 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump >>>>> offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was >>>>> the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.

    I would expect somebody of your age to have understood a bit more of how the US works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

    What you are actually expecting is that I'm just as demented as you are >>because I'm of a similar age. Dementia doesn't work that way.

    Lunatics like you have a wide variety of silly idea. People who haven't >>developed the disorder don't.


    I know you left here and are now hanging upside down down-under
    to prevent peeing out your brain cells,
    but it proves that method does not really work.
    So keep it up!

    ROTFL!! :-D

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 02:59:54 2024
    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance. >>>>>>>
    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no >>>>>>> way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy. >>>>>>
    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV >>>>> debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is >>>>> why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some >>>>> amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly >>>>> white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession >>>> crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling. >>>>
    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

    I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the
    will of the people yet.

    Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly
    obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on
    large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his
    intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and
    quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd
    been more competent.

    These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
    stop at literally nothing to get their way.

    With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry.


    But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming
    of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

    Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place".

    "It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: ??
    ("not") and ????? ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when
    'described in considerable detail'.

    America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture,
    but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily,
    anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as
    most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and
    less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come
    from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money
    on helping politicians they like.

    Universal health care is *hugely* expensive. The only reason those
    Europeans can - just about - afford it is because the US has been
    paying for their defense for decades. When they finally have to pay
    for their own, you can expect vicious cuts to those benefits.

    Twaddle. Universal healthcare is cheaper than what the US has - their
    system costs half as much again per head as the most expensive European systems, and doesn't work as well as the appreciably cheaper English
    NHS. The vicious cuts are in the most expensive procedures - most of the
    money is spent on the last eighteen months of life, and you can save a
    lot by going over to palliative care somewhat earlier.

    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 03:17:35 2024
    On 10/11/2024 1:23 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:46:22 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 5:03 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:05:30 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every >>>>>> pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main >>>>>> selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has >>>> been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a >>>> brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash >>>> and money flowing overseas, keep a bunch of Trumps policies, but at
    least not be him. It's insufficient.

    Anyway, maybe there should have been a primary.....

    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Obviously not. You are a right-wing lunatic, and not susceptible to
    rational argument.

    They threw away their chance with this pick. Having the
    prospect of the 'first black woman ever to be US president' might
    sound grand to you or your cohort, but it's utterly meaningless to
    folks who care more about their pocket-book than the colour or gender
    of a candidate. As someone once said, "It's the economy, stupid."

    The economy was actually doing fine under Biden, but the inflation
    caused by the Covid-19 pandemic meant that regular citizens didn't
    realise this, and it's not an easy idea to get across.

    Especially since there are 75 million developmentally subnormal people
    in the US, as Bill believes.

    I don't. The US population hasn't got any obvious developmental
    problems. They do have a problem getting a decent education, because the primary and secondary school system is funded by very small school
    districts, some of which have a lot more money to spend per pupil than
    others.

    The pandemic did *not* cause the inflation. THAT was generated
    directly as a result of the ludicrous response to the pandemic by
    various governments across the world who should have simply let the
    damn thing rip.

    That would have killed a lot more people than ended up dying. Look at
    the Covid-19 deaths per million column in the worldometer data.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    The US didn't do well. Others did worse.

    But that's governments for you: always sticking their
    noses in and making everything 10X worse. The Gipper was dead right.

    That's "The Big Myth"

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    Ronald Reagan was hired to present the propaganda, and got suckered by
    it himself.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Nov 9 16:19:08 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:03:55 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

    I like the noticeboard. :-)

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 16:16:59 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance. >>>>>>>>
    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy. >>>>>>>
    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in. >>>>>> Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV >>>>>> debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd >>>>>> been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered >>>>>> for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is >>>>>> why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some >>>>>> amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM - >>>>>> but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly >>>>>> white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession >>>>> crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling. >>>>>
    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

    I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the >>>> will of the people yet.

    Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly
    obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on
    large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his
    intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and
    quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd >>> been more competent.

    These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
    stop at literally nothing to get their way.

    With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry.


    But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming
    of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

    Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place".

    "It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: ??
    ("not") and ????? ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when
    'described in considerable detail'.

    America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture,
    but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily,
    anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as
    most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and
    less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come >>>from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money
    on helping politicians they like.

    Universal health care is *hugely* expensive. The only reason those
    Europeans can - just about - afford it is because the US has been
    paying for their defense for decades. When they finally have to pay
    for their own, you can expect vicious cuts to those benefits.

    Twaddle. Universal healthcare is cheaper than what the US has - their
    system costs half as much again per head as the most expensive European >systems, and doesn't work as well as the appreciably cheaper English
    NHS.

    It's the *UK* NHS actually - and it's barely functional in most areas
    as the demands upon it from an aging population are cripplingly
    expensive. Like Europe in general, it's only - just about - funded by
    running a massive public sector structural debt which can never be
    repaid. I believe France and Germany are in an even worse fiscal hole
    at present (France in particular has a massive problem with unfunded
    pension liabilities)

    The vicious cuts are in the most expensive procedures - most of the
    money is spent on the last eighteen months of life, and you can save a
    lot by going over to palliative care somewhat earlier.

    And even more by allowing voluntary euthanasia - which is currently
    under discussion.

    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able >>> to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 03:22:40 2024
    On 10/11/2024 1:27 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:32:38 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 5:10 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:18:09 -0500, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that >>>>> we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >>>> illeagal people in the city.

    Ignorant people like Bill Sloman think that squirrels are just rats
    with a bushy tail, but they are *way* more intelligent and social.

    Squirrels and rats are both rodents, and both are moderately social
    animals - rats more so than squirrels.

    https://critterstop.com/post/can-rats-and-squirrels-live-together-understanding-their-coexistence-in-urban-environments/

    Cursitor Doom is remarkably ignorant, and doesn't seem to have any idea
    quite how ignorant he really is.

    They're easy to tame and enjoy human company. And they care about each
    other more than a lot of humans do.This short clip is very touching
    and shows this not untypical behaviour:

    Snipped the usual sentimental nonsense.

    No need to keep proving you're a psychopath, Bill; we already know
    that.

    Or think you do. Your ignorance is rather more profound than you seem to
    be capable of realising.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 03:39:06 2024
    On 10/11/2024 12:26 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 05:51:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.


    I would expect somebo[d]y of your age to have understood a bit more of how the YouAsh works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

    As expected, Team Trump have announced they will not be supporting
    Ukraine, thank god. That could have turned *very* nasty indeed.

    The situation in the Ukraine has been very nasty for years. Even before
    the invasion, the Russians had set up fake separatists movements to try
    to take over the bits of the country they fancied. Trump doesn't like
    spending money on frustrating Putin, presumably because Putin has got
    some dirt on him.

    In fact it's interesting to note that the price of gold fell
    substantially on the outcome of the US election. Gold has been rising
    of late due to the increase in international tension. When Trump won,
    that was interpreted as a positive signal for peace by the precious
    metals markets.

    Not exactly a signal for peace. More like a signal that Russian
    oligarch's will be able to get away with more now that Putin's pet is
    back in the White House.

    Of course you'll have damn fools like Bill Sloman
    who'll try to tell you differently, but investors are staking their
    own cash on peace with Russia and you can't get a more reliable and
    genuine guide than that.
    They aren't staking their cash on peace with Russia - rather on an international environment that is going to be more oligarch-friendly
    because Donald Trump is an amoral creep.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 08:53:14 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:19:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:03:55 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

    I like the noticeboard. :-)

    I used to hurry home after school to see Rocky and Bullwinkle in TV.


    Boris: Vell, ve iss foiled again by moose and squirrel.

    Natasha: Vat ve do now, buy tickets and go home?

    Boris: No, ve STEAL tickets and go home.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Nov 9 17:25:45 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:53:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:19:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:03:55 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>>control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

    I like the noticeboard. :-)

    I used to hurry home after school to see Rocky and Bullwinkle in TV.


    Boris: Vell, ve iss foiled again by moose and squirrel.

    Natasha: Vat ve do now, buy tickets and go home?

    Boris: No, ve STEAL tickets and go home.

    Yeah, that was a classic cartoon for sure. Still enjoyed it as an
    adult.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Nov 9 18:59:15 2024
    On 11/9/2024 10:03 AM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg


    Just give the witless government bureaucrats a badge and gun and call
    them "police" and MAGA is all for it.

    They seem to want their papers checked more often, not less. I expect
    they'll get their wish..

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 15:51:27 2024
    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able >>>> to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    --
    Bill Slomnan, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Nov 10 15:54:32 2024
    On 10/11/2024 4:25 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:53:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:19:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:03:55 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>>> control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

    I like the noticeboard. :-)

    I used to hurry home after school to see Rocky and Bullwinkle in TV.


    Boris: Vell, ve iss foiled again by moose and squirrel.

    Natasha: Vat ve do now, buy tickets and go home?

    Boris: No, ve STEAL tickets and go home.

    Yeah, that was a classic cartoon for sure. Still enjoyed it as an
    adult.

    Cursitor Doom imagines that he is an adult. He's old enough that he
    ought to be, but - like Jan Panteltje - he never made it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 12:18:53 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able >>>>> to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 12:23:09 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:54:32 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 4:25 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:53:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:19:08 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 07:03:55 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>>>> control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/mrz111024dAPR-800x0.jpg

    I like the noticeboard. :-)

    I used to hurry home after school to see Rocky and Bullwinkle in TV.


    Boris: Vell, ve iss foiled again by moose and squirrel.

    Natasha: Vat ve do now, buy tickets and go home?

    Boris: No, ve STEAL tickets and go home.

    Yeah, that was a classic cartoon for sure. Still enjoyed it as an
    adult.

    Cursitor Doom imagines that he is an adult. He's old enough that he
    ought to be, but - like Jan Panteltje - he never made it.

    Any further insults to add before I begin ignoring your posts again,
    Bill? If I continue to bandy words with you I shall incur the wrath of
    a certain Mr. Larkin and we can't have that.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Nov 11 00:56:25 2024
    On 10/11/2024 11:18 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able >>>>>> to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    It does seem to be trait that nobody imagines that they embody. Since my reaction when somebody says something nice about me is to look out for
    the nasty job that they are about to lumber me with, I imagine that I'm probably not a narcissist, but I could be wrong.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 07:34:47 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able >>>>>> to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Nov 10 17:49:46 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here
    and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one
    concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 17:53:35 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:56:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 11:18 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    It does seem to be trait that nobody imagines that they embody. Since my >reaction when somebody says something nice about me is to look out for
    the nasty job that they are about to lumber me with, I imagine that I'm >probably not a narcissist, but I could be wrong.

    Two points here, Bill: when does *anyone* *ever* say anything nice
    about you? Secondly, narcissism is a hallmark of psychopathy. Get
    someone to check you off against Dr. Robert Hare's Psychopathy
    Checklist and you might learn something unusual about yourself you're
    currently unaware of.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Nov 11 14:00:23 2024
    On 11/11/2024 2:34 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by >>>>>>> the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    In the sense that I don't give John Larkin the flattery he feels he
    deserves, which leaves him feeling insulted, so he figures that
    everybody else feels equally hurt.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Nov 11 13:55:38 2024
    On 11/11/2024 4:53 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:56:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 11:18 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    It does seem to be trait that nobody imagines that they embody. Since my
    reaction when somebody says something nice about me is to look out for
    the nasty job that they are about to lumber me with, I imagine that I'm
    probably not a narcissist, but I could be wrong.

    Two points here, Bill: when does *anyone* *ever* say anything nice
    about you?

    It happens, if not all that often.

    Secondly, narcissism is a hallmark of psychopathy.

    It's a character defect. Dignifying it as one of the many forms of
    psychopathy is a bit of a stretch. It doesn't seem to mess people up
    enough to prevent them living more or less normal lives, so it isn't pathological.

    Get someone to check you off against Dr. Robert Hare's Psychopathy
    Checklist and you might learn something unusual about yourself you're currently unaware of.

    Probably not. My wife worked as a psycholinguist and I got to hang out
    with a lot of psychologically sophisticated people - I once got told off
    by Uta Frith for making a joke about being on the autism spectrum - I'm
    not, but it made for a neat punch-line.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 19:26:30 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from, >>>Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here
    and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one >concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal
    issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting
    nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jasen Betts@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Mon Nov 11 04:10:52 2024
    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals

    --
    Jasen.
    🇺🇦 Слава Україні

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org on Sun Nov 10 20:38:14 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals

    Squirrels almost never get rabies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Nov 11 17:51:40 2024
    On 11/11/2024 2:26 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here
    and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one
    concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal
    issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting
    nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    Not that he can be bothered to cite an example. I hypothesise that he
    imagines that my unwillingness to flatter him reflects a malicious unwillingness to recognise his imagined brilliance, and he's thinks I'm
    being equally unkind to everybody else.

    I've actually been known to say nice things about Phil Hobbs, but John
    won't have read them.

    John's here to get flattered about his own work, and doesn't care about
    anybody else's, beyond seeing it as an opportunity flaunt his own
    expertise (such as it is).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Nov 11 18:01:23 2024
    On 11/11/2024 3:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.

    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals.

    If you've been exposed to the rabies virus you'd have antibodies to it.
    Getting a big enough blood sample to test for those antibodies isn't
    going to kill anybody - human or squirrel.

    Squirrels almost never get rabies.

    But you don't want to get bitten by one of the rare exceptions. It's a
    very nasty disease. Pasteur worked out that it develops slowly enough
    that you can vaccinate people against it if you start the process
    shortly after they have been bitten, but if you waited for symptoms to
    develop, it was too late.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydeny

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Tue Nov 5 06:37:27 2024
    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD


    I could no longer watch Makala Harry (or whatever her name) on CNN and wondered why...
    It reminds me (her face) of a donkey!!

    Now that is one thing, being a donkey, she cannot help, be blamed for,
    but the question is: Who rides it?
    And with the US Military Complex (the one that helps is-a-hell commit genocide on Palestinians) riding her 4 sure a nuclear ...
    escalation
    Or maybe a new civil war in the US...
    or both

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 5 09:07:41 2024
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom ><cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>:

    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD


    I could no longer watch Makala Harry (or whatever her name) on CNN and wondered why...
    It reminds me (her face) of a donkey!!

    Now that is one thing, being a donkey, she cannot help, be blamed for,
    but the question is: Who rides it?
    And with the US Military Complex (the one that helps is-a-hell commit genocide on Palestinians) riding her 4 sure a nuclear ...
    escalation
    Or maybe a new civil war in the US...
    or both

    A face like a donkey and a laugh like a hyena. There's no substance to
    the woman at all: none. She's an empty vessel just waiting for the WEF
    goons to tell her what to do and say; the perfect puppet for the
    Globalists to continue their endless wars.
    "Too close to call!" "It's on a knife edge!" Nope. Trump's well ahead
    but Harris will eventually be declared the winner. Same steal as last
    time, just with a different puppet fronting for the Dems. RIP
    democracy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Nov 11 22:48:41 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:26:30 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from, >>>>Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here
    and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one >>concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal
    issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting
    nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    His limited vocabulary kind of lets him down on that front. Perhaps in
    the old days it was more expansive, I can't recall.
    Anyway, let's agree to just not respond to him. Both of us. Let's just
    not feed him any more. Deal?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 23:02:20 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:00:23 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/11/2024 2:34 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential >>>>>>>> election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, >>>>>>>> you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition
    movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's
    always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    In the sense that I don't give John Larkin the flattery he feels he
    deserves, which leaves him feeling insulted, so he figures that
    everybody else feels equally hurt.

    Can you not see that you're projecting (as the pyschiatrists call it)
    here, Bill? You are assuming that JL needs flattery to feel validated
    when in reality that's your own need coming through. Go back 25 years.
    Be the Bill Sloman of back then. Then you might just get the sincere appreciation you clearly crave.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Nov 11 23:08:04 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:38:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts ><usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals

    Squirrels almost never get rabies.

    And yet those demonic Democrats murdered him anyway. What a bunch of
    jerks. This is precisely the kind of petty town hall interference that
    Trump needs to break up and destroy.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 18:36:58 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:48:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:26:30 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican >>>>>>>> nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from, >>>>>Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here >>>and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one >>>concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal >>issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting >>nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    His limited vocabulary kind of lets him down on that front. Perhaps in
    the old days it was more expansive, I can't recall.
    Anyway, let's agree to just not respond to him. Both of us. Let's just
    not feed him any more. Deal?

    Yes.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 12 13:55:38 2024
    On 12/11/2024 10:08 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:38:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
    <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that >>>>> we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals

    Squirrels almost never get rabies.

    And yet those demonic Democrats murdered him anyway.

    You can't murder a squirrel. You can kill it, but murder is specific to
    humans.

    What a bunch of jerks.

    Making it less likely that people will get rabies isn't the action of a
    jerk.

    This is precisely the kind of petty town hall interference that
    Trump needs to break up and destroy.

    And Trump is dim enough to see it that way. He's not actually all that
    stupid, but he seems to be incapable of the kind of attention span that
    would let him place the action in context. Curistor Doom is equally ill-informed, and somewhat dimmer.

    They both seem to be thoroughly ill-informed on climate change. Cursitor
    Doom went on quixotic quest to find old and misleading data to bolster
    his ill-founded opinions. Trump wouldn't have bothered.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 12 13:30:32 2024
    On 12/11/2024 9:48 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:26:30 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican >>>>>>>> nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from, >>>>> Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here
    and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a
    pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one
    concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease
    to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests
    of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal
    issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting
    nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    His limited vocabulary kind of lets him down on that front. Perhaps in
    the old days it was more expansive, I can't recall.

    Cursitor Doom thinks that it would take a large vocabulary to
    characterise his character defects. He's fooling himself.
    It takes a small, if specialised, vocabulary. If he had the wit, or the inclination to read more of my output he been exposed to a wider range
    of words.

    Anyway, let's agree to just not respond to him. Both of us. Let's just
    not feed him any more. Deal?

    Of course they would both have to give up posting fatuous nonsense to
    get the effect Cursitor Doom seems to want. That would be a big ask.
    They'd have to learn how to identify fatuous nonsense first.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 12 13:45:51 2024
    On 12/11/2024 10:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:00:23 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/11/2024 2:34 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    In the sense that I don't give John Larkin the flattery he feels he
    deserves, which leaves him feeling insulted, so he figures that
    everybody else feels equally hurt.

    Can you not see that you're projecting (as the pyschiatrists call it)
    here, Bill?

    You may like to think that, but "projecting" is a term that's popular in popular psychology which shows up in your newspaper next to the
    astrology column. None of the psychiatrists I've known - not a
    prepossessing bunch - have used it.

    You are assuming that JL needs flattery to feel validated
    when in reality that's your own need coming through.

    Really? Your insights have all the depth of a puddle of dirty water.

    Go back 25 years. Be the Bill Sloman of back then.

    Not a practical project.

    Then you might just get the sincere
    appreciation you clearly crave.

    I don't post here to get sincere appreciation - I post here to be
    entertained. I have published papers in the peer-reviewed literature -
    here's an example

    Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A
    microcontroller-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical
    stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a
    thermistor sensor†Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)
    – nineteen citations so far, only two of them by me.

    Getting cited is a form of fairly sincere appreciation, but at least two
    of the people who cited me hadn't read the paper all that carefully, so
    their sincerity might not have been all that it should have been.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 5 11:28:34 2024
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 00:30:47 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/4/2024 8:56 PM, Hoppy wrote:
    On 11/4/24 15:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    Peanut was abducted and murdered in Republican Chemung County.

    As of 2024, the Chemung County Legislature includes 13 Republicans and 2
    Democrats.
    In presidential elections, Chemung County tends to vote Republican.
    In 2016, Donald Trump carried Chemung County with 55.64% of the vote
    compared to Hillary Clinton's 38.09%. Trump carried the county again in
    2020 with over 55% of the vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemung_County,_New_York


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-
    peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    Yeah I don't know why people go to the pet store or animal shelter in
    the US when the forests are full of all sorts of perfectly good animals,
    even coyotes or "forest puppies" as some prefer to call them.

    You can just go into any random woods and have your kids pick out the
    free dog they like best. Herr Trump has been known to intervene on
    behalf of children's forest puppies on several occasions.

    You typify the Left's callous indifference to life and death. That
    innocent squirrel had his own Youtube channel - with over half a
    million followers! They're devastated at the loss of their hero and
    many of them were young children. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 5 23:52:15 2024
    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom >> <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>: >>
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD


    I could no longer watch Makala Harry (or whatever her name) on CNN and wondered why...
    It reminds me (her face) of a donkey!!

    Now that is one thing, being a donkey, she cannot help, be blamed for,
    but the question is: Who rides it?
    And with the US Military Complex (the one that helps is-a-hell commit genocide on Palestinians) riding her 4 sure a nuclear ...
    escalation
    Or maybe a new civil war in the US...
    or both

    A face like a donkey and a laugh like a hyena.

    Whereas Cursitor Doom is a completely anonymous troll.

    There's no substance to the woman at all: none.

    An implausible claim. Insubstantial people don't have her history.
    Cursitor Doom - as an anonymous troll has no history at all.

    She's an empty vessel just waiting for the WEF
    goons to tell her what to do and say; the perfect puppet for the
    Globalists to continue their endless wars.

    There's rather more to her than Trump. At least she doesn't admire Putin
    and Kim Jong Un.

    "Too close to call!" "It's on a knife edge!" Nope. Trump's well ahead
    but Harris will eventually be declared the winner. Same steal as last
    time, just with a different puppet fronting for the Dems. RIP
    democracy.

    So Cursitor Doom's intuition is a more reliable guide to outcome of the
    US presidential election than all the expensive polls?

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a
    liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies,
    so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 5 14:02:23 2024
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom >>> <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>: >>>
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD


    I could no longer watch Makala Harry (or whatever her name) on CNN and wondered why...
    It reminds me (her face) of a donkey!!

    Now that is one thing, being a donkey, she cannot help, be blamed for,
    but the question is: Who rides it?
    And with the US Military Complex (the one that helps is-a-hell commit genocide on Palestinians) riding her 4 sure a nuclear ...
    escalation
    Or maybe a new civil war in the US...
    or both

    A face like a donkey and a laugh like a hyena.

    Whereas Cursitor Doom is a completely anonymous troll.

    Plenty of people here know who I am. Since you said you wanted me
    dead, I naturally don't trust you, Bill. I used a screen name because
    there are nut-cases out there like you and bitrex who have no regard
    for human - or squirrel - life. It's for my personal safety.

    There's no substance to the woman at all: none.

    An implausible claim. Insubstantial people don't have her history.
    Cursitor Doom - as an anonymous troll has no history at all.

    So what? I'm not running for president!

    She's an empty vessel just waiting for the WEF
    goons to tell her what to do and say; the perfect puppet for the
    Globalists to continue their endless wars.

    There's rather more to her than Trump. At least she doesn't admire Putin
    and Kim Jong Un.

    "Too close to call!" "It's on a knife edge!" Nope. Trump's well ahead
    but Harris will eventually be declared the winner. Same steal as last
    time, just with a different puppet fronting for the Dems. RIP
    democracy.

    So Cursitor Doom's intuition is a more reliable guide to outcome of the
    US presidential election than all the expensive polls?

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a
    liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies,
    so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 5 07:01:52 2024
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom >>>> <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>: >>>>
    ...

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a
    liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies,
    so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

    You may recall that when Trump first started running he said he would
    not accept the results of an election where he loses because the
    Democrats cheat.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-not-technically-saying-hell-refuse-to-accept-election-results-he-just-wont-accept-them-and-has-explained-why/ar-AA1p7vTk

    He has never said otherwise in all the years he was president and then
    when he lost office. And he has worked tirelessly ever since at making
    the US Electorate doubt the integrity of their fellow citizens who run elections.

    You must love being patted on the head like other useful idiots. What a
    Good Doggie you are!

    John

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 5 10:58:46 2024
    On 11/5/2024 6:28 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Guy had 7 years to get a license, the authorities here in the US will
    kick down your door for far less it's true.

    You typify the Left's callous indifference

    I think many leftists would say if you're going to engage in illegal
    activities it's not the best idea to broadcast it to the world, given
    the facts we know with respect to the former.

    I suppose there are people who figure a "law & order" president will
    intervene to save people's pets from said authorities or make the
    situation in that respect generally better, them and squirrels share the
    same brain.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 5 10:47:27 2024
    On 11/5/2024 6:28 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 00:30:47 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/4/2024 8:56 PM, Hoppy wrote:
    On 11/4/24 15:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    Peanut was abducted and murdered in Republican Chemung County.

    As of 2024, the Chemung County Legislature includes 13 Republicans and 2 >>> Democrats.
    In presidential elections, Chemung County tends to vote Republican.
    In 2016, Donald Trump carried Chemung County with 55.64% of the vote
    compared to Hillary Clinton's 38.09%. Trump carried the county again in
    2020 with over 55% of the vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemung_County,_New_York


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-
    peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    Yeah I don't know why people go to the pet store or animal shelter in
    the US when the forests are full of all sorts of perfectly good animals,
    even coyotes or "forest puppies" as some prefer to call them.

    You can just go into any random woods and have your kids pick out the
    free dog they like best. Herr Trump has been known to intervene on
    behalf of children's forest puppies on several occasions.

    You typify the Left's callous indifference to life and death. That
    innocent squirrel had his own Youtube channel - with over half a
    million followers! They're devastated at the loss of their hero and
    many of them were young children. You should be ashamed of yourself.


    If only it were possible to provoke the same outrage among right-wing
    citizens when the authorities "euthanize" random human citizens:

    <https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/>

    How many citizens did the state randomly execute where you're at last year?

    Anyway. it's not possible. Worship a cop today like every MAGA does.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Tue Nov 5 11:37:18 2024
    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened
    Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote in
    <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>:

    ...

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a
    liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies,
    so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

    You may recall that when Trump first started running he said he would
    not accept the results of an election where he loses because the
    Democrats cheat.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-not-technically-saying- hell-refuse-to-accept-election-results-he-just-wont-accept-them-and-has- explained-why/ar-AA1p7vTk

    He has never said otherwise in all the years he was president and then
    when he lost office. And he has worked tirelessly ever since at making
    the US Electorate doubt the integrity of their fellow citizens who run elections.

    You must love being patted on the head like other useful idiots. What a
    Good Doggie you are!

    John

    Live from Philadelphia:

    <https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1853620937079300096/pu/vid/avc1/720x1280/cJJ_tU7TtdA7PHGq.mp4?tag=12>

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  • From Crash Gordon@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Tue Nov 5 11:06:36 2024
    On 11/5/2024 9:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    You may recall that when Trump first started running he said he would
    not accept the results of an election where he loses because the
    Democrats cheat.

    I am a candidate for President of the United States: Gordon4Prez.com

    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states. I challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    --
    I'm part of the vast libertarian conspiracy to take over the world and
    leave everyone alone.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 5 18:12:33 2024
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:37:18 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened
    Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote in
    <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>:

    ...

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a >>>> liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies, >>>> so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

    You may recall that when Trump first started running he said he would
    not accept the results of an election where he loses because the
    Democrats cheat.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-not-technically-saying-
    hell-refuse-to-accept-election-results-he-just-wont-accept-them-and-has-
    explained-why/ar-AA1p7vTk

    He has never said otherwise in all the years he was president and then
    when he lost office. And he has worked tirelessly ever since at making
    the US Electorate doubt the integrity of their fellow citizens who run
    elections.

    You must love being patted on the head like other useful idiots. What a
    Good Doggie you are!

    John

    Live from Philadelphia:

    <https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1853620937079300096/pu/vid/avc1/720x1280/cJJ_tU7TtdA7PHGq.mp4?tag=12>

    It's very telling that the only respondents to this thread have been Left-wingers and that not one of them has expressed any sorrow or
    regret for the death of this innocent animal, choosing instead to
    score political points out of it. Shameful.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 5 18:08:28 2024
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 10:47:27 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 6:28 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 00:30:47 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/4/2024 8:56 PM, Hoppy wrote:
    On 11/4/24 15:37, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>>> control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    Peanut was abducted and murdered in Republican Chemung County.

    As of 2024, the Chemung County Legislature includes 13 Republicans and 2 >>>> Democrats.
    In presidential elections, Chemung County tends to vote Republican.
    In 2016, Donald Trump carried Chemung County with 55.64% of the vote
    compared to Hillary Clinton's 38.09%. Trump carried the county again in >>>> 2020 with over 55% of the vote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemung_County,_New_York


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-
    peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD



    Yeah I don't know why people go to the pet store or animal shelter in
    the US when the forests are full of all sorts of perfectly good animals, >>> even coyotes or "forest puppies" as some prefer to call them.

    You can just go into any random woods and have your kids pick out the
    free dog they like best. Herr Trump has been known to intervene on
    behalf of children's forest puppies on several occasions.

    You typify the Left's callous indifference to life and death. That
    innocent squirrel had his own Youtube channel - with over half a
    million followers! They're devastated at the loss of their hero and
    many of them were young children. You should be ashamed of yourself.


    If only it were possible to provoke the same outrage among right-wing >citizens when the authorities "euthanize" random human citizens:

    <https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/>

    How many citizens did the state randomly execute where you're at last year?

    A *lot* more than the number of squirrels who rob stores and get shot
    resisting arrest. When did you last hear of a squirrel who broke the
    law? What did Peanut do to warrant his summary execution?

    Anyway. it's not possible. Worship a cop today like every MAGA does.

    The cops do a tough job and deserve our support and respect IMO. What
    have you got against law and order?

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Nov 5 15:50:19 2024
    On 11/5/2024 1:12 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:37:18 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened
    Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote in
    <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>:

    ...

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but >>>>> every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a >>>>> liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies, >>>>> so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

    You may recall that when Trump first started running he said he would
    not accept the results of an election where he loses because the
    Democrats cheat.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-not-technically-saying-
    hell-refuse-to-accept-election-results-he-just-wont-accept-them-and-has- >>> explained-why/ar-AA1p7vTk

    He has never said otherwise in all the years he was president and then
    when he lost office. And he has worked tirelessly ever since at making
    the US Electorate doubt the integrity of their fellow citizens who run
    elections.

    You must love being patted on the head like other useful idiots. What a
    Good Doggie you are!

    John

    Live from Philadelphia:

    <https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1853620937079300096/pu/vid/avc1/720x1280/cJJ_tU7TtdA7PHGq.mp4?tag=12>

    It's very telling that the only respondents to this thread have been Left-wingers and that not one of them has expressed any sorrow or
    regret for the death of this innocent animal, choosing instead to
    score political points out of it. Shameful.


    Funny, never took you for an animal-rights activist. You could always
    join PETA or donate to them if you care so much, they could probably use
    the help.

    Actually I doubt they'd even take you seriously.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Nov 6 14:07:44 2024
    On 6/11/2024 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom >>>> <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <7hmiijtl3rvef23g21qip2l27gg8tu12uu@4ax.com>: >>>>
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque >>>>> control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD


    I could no longer watch Makala Harry (or whatever her name) on CNN and wondered why...
    It reminds me (her face) of a donkey!!

    Now that is one thing, being a donkey, she cannot help, be blamed for, >>>> but the question is: Who rides it?
    And with the US Military Complex (the one that helps is-a-hell commit genocide on Palestinians) riding her 4 sure a nuclear ...
    escalation
    Or maybe a new civil war in the US...
    or both

    A face like a donkey and a laugh like a hyena.

    Whereas Cursitor Doom is a completely anonymous troll.

    Plenty of people here know who I am. Since you said you wanted me
    dead, I naturally don't trust you, Bill. I used a screen name because
    there are nut-cases out there like you and bitrex who have no regard
    for human - or squirrel - life. It's for my personal safety.

    There's no substance to the woman at all: none.

    An implausible claim. Insubstantial people don't have her history.
    Cursitor Doom - as an anonymous troll has no history at all.

    So what? I'm not running for president!

    Just as well.

    She's an empty vessel just waiting for the WEF
    goons to tell her what to do and say; the perfect puppet for the
    Globalists to continue their endless wars.

    There's rather more to her than Trump. At least she doesn't admire Putin
    and Kim Jong Un.

    "Too close to call!" "It's on a knife edge!" Nope. Trump's well ahead
    but Harris will eventually be declared the winner. Same steal as last
    time, just with a different puppet fronting for the Dems. RIP
    democracy.

    So Cursitor Doom's intuition is a more reliable guide to outcome of the
    US presidential election than all the expensive polls?

    Trump does like to claim that the 2020 US election was "stolen", but
    every time he tried to get the case argued in court he lost.

    Gee, I wonder why?

    The simplest explanation is that the election wasn't stolen. Cursitor
    Doom does prefer vastly improbable explanations, but that is a
    congnitive defect, as William of Occam could have explained to him, if
    he'd lasted long enough.

    He's likely to make the same claim again, if he loses, but he's been a
    liar all his life. Cursitor Doom does like thoroughly implausible lies,
    so he tout's Trump's claims, which must be music to his ears.

    I called out the last election as a fix long before Trump ever stated
    it, Bill. Do try to keep up.

    You've been exhibiting an enthusiasm for fatuous nonsense for as long as
    you've been posting here. I've had no trouble keeping up with that.
    Keeping track of your various bits of fatuous nonsense would be quite pointless. Who cares if your preferred absurdities remain the same?

    Being self-consistent lunatic isn't actually a virtue.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Nov 6 14:11:57 2024
    On 6/11/2024 5:12 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:37:18 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened
    Cursitor Doom

    <snip>


    It's very telling that the only respondents to this thread have been Left-wingers and that not one of them has expressed any sorrow or
    regret for the death of this innocent animal, choosing instead to
    score political points out of it. Shameful.

    Getting sentimental about tree-rats is the kind of rhetorical nonsense
    we can expect from Cursitor Doom.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 11:10:38 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 14:11:57 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 6/11/2024 5:12 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:37:18 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened
    Cursitor Doom

    <snip>


    It's very telling that the only respondents to this thread have been
    Left-wingers and that not one of them has expressed any sorrow or
    regret for the death of this innocent animal, choosing instead to
    score political points out of it. Shameful.

    Getting sentimental about tree-rats is the kind of rhetorical nonsense
    we can expect from Cursitor Doom.

    Another cold, pyschopathic comment. Thankfully the American people
    didn't share your indifference and contempt for an innocent creature
    and have avenged Peanut's death emphatically. The little guy didn't
    die in vain after all. Rejoice!

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Nov 6 20:16:13 2024
    On 05-Nov-24 7:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

    The legislation under which Peanut was seized was enacted in 2004, while
    George E. Pataki, a Republican, was governor.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Wed Nov 6 15:15:50 2024
    On 11/6/24 13:16, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 05-Nov-24 7:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

    The legislation under which Peanut was seized was enacted in 2004, while George E. Pataki, a Republican, was governor.

    Sylvia.


    I'm sorry for the squirrel, but if the American voter can be
    influenced by such considerations, be afraid. Very afraid.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Nov 7 01:17:49 2024
    On 6/11/2024 10:10 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 14:11:57 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 6/11/2024 5:12 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:37:18 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 10:01 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2024-11-05 6:02 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:52:15 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/11/2024 8:07 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:37:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Nov 2024 23:37:45 +0000) it happened >>>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom

    <snip>


    It's very telling that the only respondents to this thread have been
    Left-wingers and that not one of them has expressed any sorrow or
    regret for the death of this innocent animal, choosing instead to
    score political points out of it. Shameful.

    Getting sentimental about tree-rats is the kind of rhetorical nonsense
    we can expect from Cursitor Doom.

    Another cold, pyschopathic comment. Thankfully the American people
    didn't share your indifference and contempt for an innocent creature
    and have avenged Peanut's death emphatically. The little guy didn't
    die in vain after all. Rejoice!

    American squirrels can carry rabies. One can understand why Cursitor
    Doom would get sentimental over a rabid pest - that pretty much
    describes him too - but it is a rather psychopathic attitude.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Crash Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash Gordon on Wed Nov 6 09:09:02 2024
    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results,
    that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    --
    I'm part of the vast libertarian conspiracy to take over the world and
    leave everyone alone.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 19:21:44 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I
    challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results,
    that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    I hope Trump will leave office in 4 years having made the
    weaponization of the law for political ends impossible going forward,
    because what we have seen has been outrageous abuse of the legal
    system in a flagrant attempt to crush any second term for him. We
    really have been in banana republic territory of late, what with that
    and the assassination attempts.

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  • From David LaRue@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Nov 6 21:44:38 2024
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in news:evfnijl4hdba3vec1rgud1frjftjur337a@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I
    challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple
    challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    I hope Trump will leave office in 4 years having made the
    weaponization of the law for political ends impossible going forward,
    because what we have seen has been outrageous abuse of the legal
    system in a flagrant attempt to crush any second term for him. We
    really have been in banana republic territory of late, what with that
    and the assassination attempts.

    Agreed.

    One more very important thing needs to be added to the goals for President Trump and his team. (IMHO) Bringing both sides together is a nice goal,
    but a better goal improving on that idea is to teach all Americans of all
    ages the values that created this great country. So that in the future we might combine our efforts to improve instead of listening to those efforts
    that divided us on many false issues. We need to focus on what is
    important.

    The media will not tell you what that means.

    Politicians cannot tell you what that means.

    God told us what we need to do. Our Great Founding Fathers new the path.

    Amen,

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Nov 6 17:11:28 2024
    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I
    challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results,
    that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges. >>
    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep
    the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing
    states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and
    three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain
    knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Wed Nov 6 15:14:08 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:11:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I >>>> challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>> that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges. >>>
    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep
    the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing >states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and
    three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a >billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain
    knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..






    What would really be interesting is a Cabinet with one guy who was a
    poor hillbilly orphan, and another guy who is the richest person on
    Earth.

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com on Wed Nov 6 15:10:10 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 21:44:38 -0000 (UTC), David LaRue
    <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in >news:evfnijl4hdba3vec1rgud1frjftjur337a@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I >>>> challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming!
    I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>>that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple
    challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    I hope Trump will leave office in 4 years having made the
    weaponization of the law for political ends impossible going forward,
    because what we have seen has been outrageous abuse of the legal
    system in a flagrant attempt to crush any second term for him. We
    really have been in banana republic territory of late, what with that
    and the assassination attempts.

    Agreed.

    One more very important thing needs to be added to the goals for President >Trump and his team. (IMHO) Bringing both sides together is a nice goal,
    but a better goal improving on that idea is to teach all Americans of all >ages the values that created this great country. So that in the future we >might combine our efforts to improve instead of listening to those efforts >that divided us on many false issues. We need to focus on what is
    important.

    The media will not tell you what that means.

    Politicians cannot tell you what that means.

    God told us what we need to do. Our Great Founding Fathers new the path.

    Amen,

    Whether you are a believer or not, The Enlightment started with The
    Ten Commandments, the teachings of Jesus, the Gutenberg bible, the
    Reformation, the Magna Carta, and the US Constitution as amended.

    Religion is the firmware, the axioms, of our morality and law.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Wed Nov 6 15:54:50 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:15:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/6/24 13:16, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 05-Nov-24 7:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

    The legislation under which Peanut was seized was enacted in 2004, while
    George E. Pataki, a Republican, was governor.

    Sylvia.


    I'm sorry for the squirrel, but if the American voter can be
    influenced by such considerations, be afraid. Very afraid.

    Jeroen Belleman

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Nov 6 19:35:41 2024
    On 11/6/2024 6:14 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:11:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I >>>>> challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming! >>>> I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>>> that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep
    the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing
    states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and
    three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a
    billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain
    knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..






    What would really be interesting is a Cabinet with one guy who was a
    poor hillbilly orphan, and another guy who is the richest person on
    Earth.


    Vance is an odd duck; seems to believe his mother stealing pills from
    her workplace to feed her drug addiction was the fault of somebody other
    than herself and Purdue Pharma.

    Having Trump, Vance, RFK Jr. and Musk is a hazard, the gravitational
    pull of many massive egos in once place is likely to cause a rip in the
    space time continuum.


    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Wed Nov 6 16:45:28 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:35:41 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 6:14 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:11:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I >>>>>> challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming! >>>>> I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>>>> that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any
    fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to
    even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep
    the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing
    states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and
    three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a
    billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain
    knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..






    What would really be interesting is a Cabinet with one guy who was a
    poor hillbilly orphan, and another guy who is the richest person on
    Earth.


    Vance is an odd duck; seems to believe his mother stealing pills from
    her workplace to feed her drug addiction was the fault of somebody other
    than herself and Purdue Pharma.

    Having Trump, Vance, RFK Jr. and Musk is a hazard, the gravitational
    pull of many massive egos in once place is likely to cause a rip in the
    space time continuum.


    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Nov 7 16:14:39 2024
    On 7/11/2024 10:54 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:15:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/6/24 13:16, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 05-Nov-24 7:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

    The legislation under which Peanut was seized was enacted in 2004, while >>> George E. Pataki, a Republican, was governor.

    Sylvia.


    I'm sorry for the squirrel, but if the American voter can be
    influenced by such considerations, be afraid. Very afraid.

    Jeroen Belleman

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.

    And, like most of John Larkin's opinions, this was inculcated by lying right-wing American propaganda.

    https://www.sir.advancedleadership.harvard.edu/articles/the-big-myth-how-american-business-taught-us-loathe-government-and-love-free-market

    The same authors also wrote "The Merchants of Doubt" which looks at the
    climate change denial propaganda which has also suckered John Larkin.

    Natural monopolies need to be regulated by elected politicians -
    privatisation is one of those popular fads that doesn't work.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jl@glen--canyon.com on Thu Nov 7 06:41:58 2024
    On a sunny day (Wed, 06 Nov 2024 15:10:10 -0800) it happened john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in <metnijh8hi2bgr20fdcdogn56c5gvbfgl2@4ax.com>:

    Whether you are a believer or not, The Enlightment started with The
    Ten Commandments, the teachings of Jesus, the Gutenberg bible, the >Reformation, the Magna Carta, and the US Constitution as amended.

    Religion is the firmware, the axioms, of our morality and law.

    Darwin rules
    Religion is a control system made by some ... for profit.
    I never met CheeseUS, but you could try inflatable slippers to walk on water perhaps.
    After killing most native 'merricans and doing nuclear tests on the reservations they were put in later..
    the obviously instable divided states will now demonstrate that Darwin was right :-) ???
    Were will it go?
    ByeThen just donated more weapons to youcrane while he still could.
    Europe: German governmet is falling.. War machine starting up, army conscription considered again..
    Mill industry there wants more weapon production.
    Will EU survive?
    Will China nuke US, (together with N Korea, Russia, some more)?
    Religious wars..
    Will we see a 2 state solution in is-a-hell?

    More on this channel in 4 years (if it still exists) (else on X) ?


    Oh, I forgot:
    will the restaurants on Mars require Chinse or YouAsh currency?
    Will Trump be shot?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Nov 7 09:54:02 2024
    On 11/6/2024 6:54 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:15:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/6/24 13:16, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 05-Nov-24 7:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This is just typical of Democrat control. Today a defenseless
    squirrel; tomorrow you or me. That's how these heartless Stalinesque
    control freaks operate. For Peanut's sake, vote Trump tomorrow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-rally-around-peanut-the-squirrel-in-last-ditch-attempt-for-votes/ar-AA1tuquD

    The legislation under which Peanut was seized was enacted in 2004, while >>> George E. Pataki, a Republican, was governor.

    Sylvia.


    I'm sorry for the squirrel, but if the American voter can be
    influenced by such considerations, be afraid. Very afraid.

    Jeroen Belleman

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.


    Lots of people don't like Democrats, but are fine with faceless
    progressive policy and are happy to vote themselves higher wages, free education and more money from the government.

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every
    pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 10:18:09 2024
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of illeagal people in the city.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 10:19:51 2024
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every
    pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Thu Nov 7 17:05:30 2024
    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every
    pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has
    been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a
    brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash
    and money flowing overseas, keep a bunch of Trumps policies, but at
    least not be him. It's insufficient.

    Anyway, maybe there should have been a primary.....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Nov 7 17:20:19 2024
    On 11/7/2024 5:05 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every
    pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has
    been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a
    brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash
    and money

    cash & bombs, rather

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Thu Nov 7 23:43:52 2024
    On 11/7/24 16:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of illeagal people in the city.


    That was the idea. There are plenty of things wrong in US society,
    but the authorities chose to after an easy target and politicians
    sought to use it to their advantage. Both parties deserve our scorn.

    Jeroen Belleman

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Thu Nov 7 15:53:27 2024
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:43:52 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/7/24 16:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of
    illeagal people in the city.


    That was the idea. There are plenty of things wrong in US society,
    but the authorities chose to after an easy target and politicians
    sought to use it to their advantage. Both parties deserve our scorn.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Political parties should have no official existance in the workings of elections or in government.

    The framers of our constitution debated that, and got it wrong.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 19:57:09 2024
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:53:27 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:43:52 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/7/24 16:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >>> illeagal people in the city.


    That was the idea. There are plenty of things wrong in US society,
    but the authorities chose to after an easy target and politicians
    sought to use it to their advantage. Both parties deserve our scorn.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Political parties should have no official existance in the workings of >elections or in government.

    The framers of our constitution debated that, and got it wrong.

    They looked at the fractious politics of European parliamentary
    systems, which were largely self-crippling, and decided to set things
    up so there would be only a few parties, usually two major plus some pipsqueaks. It worked.

    Joe

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Nov 8 12:35:54 2024
    On 8/11/2024 10:53 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:43:52 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/7/24 16:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentality of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >>> illegal people in the city.

    The US has always had thousands of illegal immigrants. They are
    exploited as cheap labour - not as cheap as slaves, but less of a
    capital investment.

    That was the idea. There are plenty of things wrong in US society,
    but the authorities chose to after an easy target and politicians
    sought to use it to their advantage. Both parties deserve our scorn.

    Political parties should have no official existence in the workings of elections or in government.

    The framers of our constitution debated that, and got it wrong.

    The framers of the US constitution didn't like political parties, but
    the constitution that they wrote didn't prevent them from forming.

    Political parties seem to be pretty much inevitable. Countries with proportional representation and multi-member electorates tend to have
    quite a few political parties, and coalition governments.

    Matters that get dealt with privately as factional conflicts within the
    two dominant parties in two-party democracies get debated publicly
    between coalition partners in multi-party democracies. This seems to
    work better.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Fri Nov 8 12:44:37 2024
    On 8/11/2024 11:57 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 15:53:27 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:43:52 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 11/7/24 16:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that >>>>> we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >>>> illeagal people in the city.


    That was the idea. There are plenty of things wrong in US society,
    but the authorities chose to after an easy target and politicians
    sought to use it to their advantage. Both parties deserve our scorn.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Political parties should have no official existance in the workings of
    elections or in government.

    The framers of our constitution debated that, and got it wrong.

    They looked at the fractious politics of European parliamentary
    systems, which were largely self-crippling, and decided to set things
    up so there would be only a few parties, usually two major plus some pipsqueaks. It worked.

    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786.
    They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set
    up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the
    Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them
    and seems to work well.

    The 1956 French constitution was a De Gaulle ego trip, and doesn't work
    quite a well. The executive president idea appeals to egomanics, and
    they are the last people you want in the job. Look at Trump.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Fri Nov 8 06:19:56 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786.
    They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set
    up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the
    Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them
    and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Kanguros have more freedom there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Nov 8 23:05:27 2024
    On 8/11/2024 5:19 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786.
    They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set
    up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the
    Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them
    and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Less ridiculous to the parents of kids who have taken bad advice that
    they got from social media. Kids don't have good judgement - neither do
    you - but most of them get wiser as the get older and brain development
    settles down. They can't even get married without parental consent.

    Kangaroos have more freedom there.

    And most Australian kids can spell the word correctly. Kangaroos are
    wild animals, and can't screw up as thoroughly as kids can. They rarely
    commit suicide or become anorexic.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Fri Nov 8 12:50:48 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:05:27 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgkuqi$36je2$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 5:19 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786.
    They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set >>> up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the
    Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them
    and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Less ridiculous to the parents of kids who have taken bad advice that
    they got from social media.

    Would not they have dioed <and m,aybe sooner> if left to the control of theor parents of environment only?
    As soo nas kids can read and write they can slsao swipea smatp[hopne thse days...
    Thye know about google an politics too.


    Kids don't have good judgement - neither do
    you - but most of them get wiser as the get older and brain development

    boring twit!


    settles down. They can't even get married without parental consent.

    Kangaroos have more freedom there.

    And most Australian kids can spell the word correctly. Kangaroos are
    wild animals,


    Just testing
    You just contradicted your own argument


    and can't screw up as thoroughly as kids can. They rarely
    commit suicide or become anorexic.

    You never grew up in a city (like me in Amsterdam in the fourties and fifties)? Lots going on there for kids less than 16 years old long before social media existed.
    Some died..

    Quite possible just those social media and a view of differentlife stiles will protect the very young kids.
    Maybe help them to learn languages, what the world looks like higher than down under...
    Other cultures, religions, what not, even electronics...

    Amsterdam was fun yesterday, media all over it, pro-Palestinians against youwish genocide committing food bahllers

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Nov 9 01:17:14 2024
    On 8/11/2024 11:50 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:05:27 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgkuqi$36je2$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 5:19 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786.
    They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set >>>> up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the
    Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them >>>> and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Less ridiculous to the parents of kids who have taken bad advice that
    they got from social media.

    Would not they have died <and maybe sooner> if left to the control of their parents of environment only?

    Probably not. There seem to have been more bad outcomes in the last few
    years than there were before social media became popular

    As soon as kids can read and write they can also swipe a smart phone these days...
    They know about google and politics too.

    But they mostly can't afford smart phones.

    Kids don't have good judgement - neither do
    you - but most of them get wiser as the get older and brain development settles down >> settles down. They can't even get married without parental consent.

    boring twit!

    You seem to be the twit here. I'm not to boring to reply to.

    Kangaroos have more freedom there.

    And most Australian kids can spell the word correctly. Kangaroos are
    wild animals,

    Just testing

    Pull the other leg.

    and can't screw up as thoroughly as kids can. They rarely
    commit suicide or become anorexic.

    You just contradicted your own argument.

    But you can't spell out how.

    You never grew up in a city (like me in Amsterdam in the forties and fifties)? > Lots going on there for kids less than 16 years old long before
    social media existed.
    Some died..

    I grew up in a small town in Tasmania (population about 15,000 at the
    time) but there was quite a lot going on there too

    Quite possible just those social media and a view of different life styles will
    protect the very young kids.

    It doesn't seem to.

    Maybe help them to learn languages, what the world looks like higher than down under...
    Other cultures, religions, what not, even electronics...

    Grow up. I managed to learn French and German in Tasmania - Australia
    had lot of migrants from Europe at that time (including some from the Netherlands that I ran into as a kid). It obviously wasn't as
    cosmopolitan as Amsterdam, but we had a Danish next door neighbor and a
    couple of Russians lived just down the street at one stage. They moved
    to Sydney and my younger brother ran into them again fifty year later
    when he was organising the Sydney Olympic games.

    Amsterdam was fun yesterday, media all over it, pro-Palestinians against Jewish genocide-committing foot-ballers.

    The football supporters may have included some Jewish military on leave,
    but they'd probably argue that the numerous Palestinian civilian
    casualties were collateral damage arising from the nasty habit Hamas has
    of hiding in the middle of the civilian population. Genocide involves
    trying to kill every member of an ethnic group. An insensitivity to
    collateral damage is morally repugnant, but it isn't genocide.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Fri Nov 8 15:21:57 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:17:14 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgl6hm$37jl9$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 11:50 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:05:27 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgkuqi$36je2$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 5:19 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman >>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786. >>>>> They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set >>>>> up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the >>>>> Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them >>>>> and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Less ridiculous to the parents of kids who have taken bad advice that
    they got from social media.

    Would not they have died <and maybe sooner> if left to the control of their parents of environment only?

    Probably not. There seem to have been more bad outcomes in the last few
    years than there were before social media became popular

    As soon as kids can read and write they can also swipe a smart phone these days...
    They know about google and politics too.

    But they mostly can't afford smart phones.

    Kids don't have good judgement - neither do
    you - but most of them get wiser as the get older and brain development settles down >> settles down. They can't even get
    married without parental consent.

    boring twit!

    You seem to be the twit here. I'm not to boring to reply to.

    Kangaroos have more freedom there.

    And most Australian kids can spell the word correctly. Kangaroos are
    wild animals,

    Just testing

    Pull the other leg.

    and can't screw up as thoroughly as kids can. They rarely
    commit suicide or become anorexic.

    You just contradicted your own argument.

    But you can't spell out how.

    You never grew up in a city (like me in Amsterdam in the forties and fifties)? > Lots going on there for kids less than 16
    years old long before
    social media existed.
    Some died..

    I grew up in a small town in Tasmania (population about 15,000 at the
    time) but there was quite a lot going on there too

    Quite possible just those social media and a view of different life styles will
    protect the very young kids.

    It doesn't seem to.

    Maybe help them to learn languages, what the world looks like higher than down under...
    Other cultures, religions, what not, even electronics...

    Grow up. I managed to learn French and German in Tasmania - Australia
    had lot of migrants from Europe at that time (including some from the >Netherlands that I ran into as a kid). It obviously wasn't as
    cosmopolitan as Amsterdam, but we had a Danish next door neighbor and a >couple of Russians lived just down the street at one stage. They moved
    to Sydney and my younger brother ran into them again fifty year later
    when he was organising the Sydney Olympic games.

    Amsterdam was fun yesterday, media all over it, pro-Palestinians against Jewish genocide-committing foot-ballers.

    The football supporters may have included some Jewish military on leave,
    but they'd probably argue that the numerous Palestinian civilian
    casualties were collateral damage arising from the nasty habit Hamas has
    of hiding in the middle of the civilian population. Genocide involves
    trying to kill every member of an ethnic group. An insensitivity to >collateral damage is morally repugnant, but it isn't genocide.

    youws are just an other fanatic religious group who believe in Mosex and what not
    The Faraos already kicked them out, had enough of them.
    October 7 was provoked by them putting settlements and killing Palestinians They just grab and steal what they can, they want the Palestinian landstrip for their own
    killing hundreds if not thousands of Palestinian kids, destroying all houses. Good news source of what is happening there is Al Jazeera (banned in is-a-hell now).
    They kill journaiists, doctors, healtscare workers, aid workers too, just are animals.
    US supporting them is all about weapnos sales, payed for tbr the US taxpayer many who are now hiomel;ss becasue of thsoe taxes
    and lack of real useful jobs, or shot by the weapons made by that club, even kids at schools.
    not-an-yahoo is a CIA agent and that guy who started October 7 was also one THAT is how YouAsh plays the game, I know how CIA plays.
    All for the money.
    And who pays? US taxpayer does.
    Hopefully Trump will end that corrupt weapon selling club.
    Else may the rest of the world nuke it into oblivion as far as I am concerned.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 8 17:50:50 2024
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 8 17:58:26 2024
    On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 16:45:28 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:35:41 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 6:14 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:11:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I >>>>>>> challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming! >>>>>> I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results, >>>>>> that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any >>>>> fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to >>>>> even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep
    the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing >>>> states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and >>>> three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a
    billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain >>>> knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..






    What would really be interesting is a Cabinet with one guy who was a
    poor hillbilly orphan, and another guy who is the richest person on
    Earth.


    Vance is an odd duck; seems to believe his mother stealing pills from
    her workplace to feed her drug addiction was the fault of somebody other >>than herself and Purdue Pharma.

    Having Trump, Vance, RFK Jr. and Musk is a hazard, the gravitational
    pull of many massive egos in once place is likely to cause a rip in the >>space time continuum.


    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
    why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some
    amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
    white arse more than once, in fact.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Fri Nov 8 18:03:57 2024
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:05:30 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every
    pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has
    been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a
    brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash
    and money flowing overseas, keep a bunch of Trumps policies, but at
    least not be him. It's insufficient.

    Anyway, maybe there should have been a primary.....

    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer. They threw away their chance with this pick. Having the
    prospect of the 'first black woman ever to be US president' might
    sound grand to you or your cohort, but it's utterly meaningless to
    folks who care more about their pocket-book than the colour or gender
    of a candidate. As someone once said, "It's the economy, stupid."

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to rmowery42@charter.net on Fri Nov 8 18:10:37 2024
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:18:09 -0500, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of >illeagal people in the city.

    Ignorant people like Bill Sloman think that squirrels are just rats
    with a bushy tail, but they are *way* more intelligent and social.
    They're easy to tame and enjoy human company. And they care about each
    other more than a lot of humans do.This short clip is very touching
    and shows this not untypical behaviour:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s1moo9eGSE0

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Nov 8 15:00:04 2024
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
    why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
    white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession
    crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling.

    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Crash Gordon on Fri Nov 8 15:56:24 2024
    On 11/8/2024 3:49 PM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they wouldn't vote for?  With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him.  That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.


    World's most famous man and his sidekick the world's richest man
    successfully voted in as world's most powerful men. Film at 11.

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  • From Crash Gordon@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Nov 8 14:49:26 2024
    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not
    being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they
    wouldn't vote for? With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him. That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump. He successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.

    --
    I'm part of the vast libertarian conspiracy to take over the world and
    leave everyone alone.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 00:41:40 2024
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:49:26 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not >being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they >wouldn't vote for? With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him. That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same >question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump. He >successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.

    You're talking about Democrats, though. I'm talking about the kind of
    candidate who could have won over the floating/undecided voters in the
    swing states.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Nov 9 00:43:36 2024
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:56:24 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 3:49 PM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not
    being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they
    wouldn't vote for?  With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him.  That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same
    question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.


    World's most famous man and his sidekick the world's richest man
    successfully voted in as world's most powerful men. Film at 11.

    Look on the plus side. They're rich enough not be hired for rent like
    the typical politician is. You can't buy guys like them.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Nov 9 00:38:34 2024
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no >>>> way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
    why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some
    amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
    white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession
    crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling.

    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

    I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the
    will of the people yet. These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
    stop at literally nothing to get their way. But they're no friends of
    yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming of if Trump's out
    of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 15:43:37 2024
    On 9/11/2024 4:58 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 16:45:28 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:35:41 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 6:14 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:11:28 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 2:21 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:09:02 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 11/5/2024 11:06 AM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    I pledge to accept the election results as certified by the states.  I
    challenge all other candidates to make the same pledge.

    It turns out this pledge was unnecessary. I did *not* see that coming! >>>>>>> I was sure it would be at least a week before we had definitive results,
    that they would be very close, and that there would be multiple challenges.

    I am as agog as most democrats at this point.

    It was never close. That was just another MSM lie so it would be
    easier to fix the result again. But Trump was *so* far ahead that any >>>>>> fix would have been easily exposed as such. It was just too risky to >>>>>> even contemplate.
    The polls were pretty much bang on; that _someone_ would likely sweep >>>>> the swing states was known for weeks, months. The scenarios where swing >>>>> states got split were statistically unlikely.

    Running a candidate like Kamala who had not even a primary mandate and >>>>> three months to do a not particularly inspiring campaign up against a >>>>> billionaire celebrity like Trump was a big gamble, anyone with a brain >>>>> knew that. Did the Democrats? Who can say..






    What would really be interesting is a Cabinet with one guy who was a
    poor hillbilly orphan, and another guy who is the richest person on
    Earth.


    Vance is an odd duck; seems to believe his mother stealing pills from
    her workplace to feed her drug addiction was the fault of somebody other >>> than herself and Purdue Pharma.

    Having Trump, Vance, RFK Jr. and Musk is a hazard, the gravitational
    pull of many massive egos in once place is likely to cause a rip in the
    space time continuum.


    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance.

    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no
    way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.

    He was fine when he had the time to work through the problems he was
    faced with. He'd been making speech errors all through his career, and
    he really wasn't in state to produce instant responses in a debate.

    Trump doesn't have that problem. He refuses to study anything in detail,
    and improvises off the the cuff all the time, in part by lying, which he
    does a lot.

    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that.

    Cursitor Doom's favourite right-wing fantasy factories might have been
    saying that, But only people addicted to implausible fantasises - like
    Cursitor Doom - took them seriously.


    The MSM covered for him very well.

    More of Cursitor Doom's implausible fantasies.

    Can you imagine them doing that for Trump?

    They fact-checked him extensively from 2016 to 2020. and found that he
    lied a lot more than previous presidents. He's unlikely to be any more
    accurate in his second term.

    This is why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy
    media nowadays and get their news from other sources.

    Fewer a fewer right-wing nuts bother reading stuff that isn't curated
    for their pervserse tastes.

    Zerohedge has run some
    amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
    white arse more than once, in fact.

    Not that you can cite a single example. You may have got stories from
    them that played well with friends of yours that share your perverse
    tastes, but Zero Hedge exists to serve a lunatic fringe market.

    The Murdoch media and Fox News cater the more numerous market of the
    moderately demented, but they are in the same business.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 15:26:02 2024
    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Sat Nov 9 05:51:14 2024
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:26:02 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgmo98$3jlbv$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 9/11/2024 4:50 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 06:41:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Will Trump be shot?

    I'd say he remains in grave peril. I don't trust the CIA goons. He
    should surround himself with the 'wall of meat' the Bikers for Trump
    offered him, augmented by a few Oathkeepers for good measure. It was
    the CIA that whacked JFK - as I assume everyone knows now.

    Only the conspiracy theory nuts like Cursitor Doom who like their
    demented conspiracy theories to be totally implausible.


    I would expect somebo[d]y of your age to have understood a bit more of how the YouAsh works,
    peace is a danger to their weapon factories and supporting industry.
    Reagan was shot at too.. Imagine peace with Russia.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 16:38:04 2024
    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I hope DT will make a victory lap of the USA and adbicate to Vance. >>>>>
    Dream on. Biden had some sense (far too late) to bow out but there's no >>>>> way Trump is turning over the keys to Vance, or anyone else, easy.

    We'll never know what Nancy said to get Joe to quit. Probably
    threatened to put his entire family in prison.

    It was insane to have old Joe in the WH given the state he was in.
    Seems the US only woke up to his deterioration in that first live TV
    debate with Trump. But it was no secret to the rest of us that he'd
    been in a bad way for at least 2 years before that. The MSM covered
    for him very well. Can you imagine them doing that for Trump? This is
    why fewer and fewer people pay any attention to the legacy media
    nowadays and get their news from other sources. Zerohedge has run some
    amazing exposes that were vehemently denied and mocked by the MSM -
    but they were subsequently proven 100% correct. They've saved my lilly
    white arse more than once, in fact.


    Definitely not, we'll get to watch every gory detail of the succession
    crisis (and it's already happening.) The vultures are already circling.

    I've got my popcorn stocked up..

    I think you may be in luck. They'll find a way to thwart Trump and the
    will of the people yet.

    Trump doesn't need much thwarting. His first term made it blindingly
    obvious that he lacks the political skills to make things happen on
    large scale. During the Covid-19 epidemic he made it obvious how his intellectual defects made it difficult for him to do anything much, and
    quite a few more Americans died of Covid-19 than woukd have done if he'd
    been more competent.

    These bastards are utterly ruthless and will
    stop at literally nothing to get their way.

    With Trump, they don't have to. He'll hang himself out to dry.


    But they're no friends of yours, either. Whatever utopia you may be dreaming of if Trump's out of the picture, you won't find it delivered by THEM.

    Nobody's dreaming of any utopia - the word means "no place".

    "It literally translates as "no place", coming from the Greek: οá½
    ("not") and τόπος ("place"), and meant any non-existent society, when 'described in considerable detail'.

    America would probably be run better if Trump was out of the picture,
    but a century of ant-union and - incidentally, but necessarily,
    anti-socialist - propaganda means that it unlikely to be as well run as
    most of Europe with universal health care, good education for all and
    less economic inequality. The biggest improvement would probably come
    from making it more difficult for billionaires to spend loads of money
    on helping politicians they like.

    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 16:46:22 2024
    On 9/11/2024 5:03 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:05:30 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/7/2024 10:19 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
    In article <672cd48a$1$2385539$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
    user@example.net says...

    Trump's main message is not "small government" it's a chicken in every >>>> pot and trading freedom for security. This used to be the Dem's main
    selling point...



    It seems the parties are reversing the ideas.


    Appropriating some left-wing populist ideas and making them meaner has
    been a right-wing thing for a while.

    But though Trump tries to be everything to everyone, at least he has a
    brand, a coherent message of a sort.

    Lately the Dems have just been a rather generic centrist party whose
    message such as it is, is that we'll be business-as-usual, keep the cash
    and money flowing overseas, keep a bunch of Trumps policies, but at
    least not be him. It's insufficient.

    Anyway, maybe there should have been a primary.....

    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Obviously not. You are a right-wing lunatic, and not susceptible to
    rational argument.

    They threw away their chance with this pick. Having the
    prospect of the 'first black woman ever to be US president' might
    sound grand to you or your cohort, but it's utterly meaningless to
    folks who care more about their pocket-book than the colour or gender
    of a candidate. As someone once said, "It's the economy, stupid."

    The economy was actually doing fine under Biden, but the inflation
    caused by the Covid-19 pandemic meant that regular citizens didn't
    realise this, and it's not an easy idea to get across.

    Trying to do it in a late-starting campaign doesn't seem to have been
    seen as practicable.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 16:55:27 2024
    On 9/11/2024 11:43 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:56:24 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 3:49 PM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not >>> being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they
    wouldn't vote for?  With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him.  That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same >>> question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.


    World's most famous man and his sidekick the world's richest man
    successfully voted in as world's most powerful men. Film at 11.

    Look on the plus side. They're rich enough not be hired for rent like
    the typical politician is. You can't buy guys like them.

    Of course you can. But you don't use money. Trump met with Kim Jong Un
    because it offered him an unparalleled photo-opportunity, and you can
    always tempt a narcissist by offering to put his face on a lot of front
    pages.

    Elon Musk seems to have been bought by Trump with much the same sort of inducements.

    There is stuff that money can't buy directly.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 00:56:23 2024
    On 11/8/2024 7:43 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:56:24 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 3:49 PM, Crash Gordon wrote:
    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not >>> being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they
    wouldn't vote for?  With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him.  That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same >>> question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.


    World's most famous man and his sidekick the world's richest man
    successfully voted in as world's most powerful men. Film at 11.

    Look on the plus side. They're rich enough not be hired for rent like
    the typical politician is. You can't buy guys like them.



    Oh gosh CD, they say laughter is the best medicine and I think my
    neighbors heard me spit my coffee out and fall out of my chair.

    I don't know if you're for real or some fashion of performance artist
    but I appreciate you either way. Lol..

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 17:06:06 2024
    On 9/11/2024 11:41 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:49:26 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:03 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    You can't tell me that Hopeless Harris was the best the Dems had to
    offer.

    Early in the campaign (long before there was any discussion of Biden not
    being the nominee), I would ask Biden supporters if, hypothetically,
    Biden didn't run, was there anybody the Dems could nominate that they
    wouldn't vote for? With one exception, every single Biden supporter
    said no, they'd vote for whoever the democratic nominee happened to be.
    The single exception was one smartass who said that if the Dems
    nominated Trump, he wouldn't vote for him. That guy gets points for
    snark, at least.

    When it developed that Biden was in fact *not* running, I asked the same
    question about Harris and got the same answer.

    I really don't think it mattered at all who the Democratic nominee was;
    the vote would have turned out pretty much the same.


    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump. He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.

    You're talking about Democrats, though. I'm talking about the kind of candidate who could have won over the floating/undecided voters in the
    swing states.

    Most of whom weren't well educated, and were susceptible to Trump's lies.

    A Democrat candidate who could have out-lied him is conceivable, but no
    name springs to mind. Trump has been lying on a industrial scale for
    most of his career and has a string of bankruptcies to show for it.

    The take-away message is that America needs to clean up it's secondary education system, but it is unique in that it's primary and secondary
    education system is run and paid for by tiny school districts.

    The US constitution was written before universal education was
    economically feasible - it took Turnip Townsend's agricultural
    revolution to make it possible - and education isn't a responsibility of
    the nation or the individual states.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Nov 9 17:23:37 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On 9/11/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:17:14 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgl6hm$37jl9$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 11:50 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:05:27 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgkuqi$36je2$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 8/11/2024 5:19 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:44:37 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman >>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vgjqeg$2t0r1$2@dont-email.me>:
    European parliamentary systems were pretty rudimentary back in 1786. >>>>>> They've got a lot better since then. The Australian constitution got set >>>>>> up in 1901 and missed the cutting edge stuff that the Swedes and the >>>>>> Dutch worked out a few later. The 1948 German constitution copied them >>>>>> and seems to work well.

    Australia now wants to ban kids below 16 years of age from participating in / using social media!
    Ridiculous!!!

    Less ridiculous to the parents of kids who have taken bad advice that
    they got from social media.

    Would not they have died <and maybe sooner> if left to the control of their parents of environment only?

    Probably not. There seem to have been more bad outcomes in the last few
    years than there were before social media became popular

    As soon as kids can read and write they can also swipe a smart phone these days...
    They know about google and politics too.

    But they mostly can't afford smart phones.

    Kids don't have good judgement - neither do
    you - but most of them get wiser as the get older and brain development settles down >> settles down. They can't even get
    married without parental consent.

    boring twit!

    You seem to be the twit here. I'm not to boring to reply to.

    Kangaroos have more freedom there.

    And most Australian kids can spell the word correctly. Kangaroos are
    wild animals,

    Just testing

    Pull the other leg.

    and can't screw up as thoroughly as kids can. They rarely
    commit suicide or become anorexic.

    You just contradicted your own argument.

    But you can't spell out how.

    You never grew up in a city (like me in Amsterdam in the forties and fifties)? > Lots going on there for kids less than 16
    years old long before
    social media existed.
    Some died..

    I grew up in a small town in Tasmania (population about 15,000 at the
    time) but there was quite a lot going on there too

    Quite possible just those social media and a view of different life styles will
    protect the very young kids.

    It doesn't seem to.

    Maybe help them to learn languages, what the world looks like higher than down under...
    Other cultures, religions, what not, even electronics...

    Grow up. I managed to learn French and German in Tasmania - Australia
    had lot of migrants from Europe at that time (including some from the
    Netherlands that I ran into as a kid). It obviously wasn't as
    cosmopolitan as Amsterdam, but we had a Danish next door neighbor and a
    couple of Russians lived just down the street at one stage. They moved
    to Sydney and my younger brother ran into them again fifty year later
    when he was organising the Sydney Olympic games.

    Amsterdam was fun yesterday, media all over it, pro-Palestinians against Jewish genocide-committing foot-ballers.

    The football supporters may have included some Jewish military on leave,
    but they'd probably argue that the numerous Palestinian civilian
    casualties were collateral damage arising from the nasty habit Hamas has
    of hiding in the middle of the civilian population. Genocide involves
    trying to kill every member of an ethnic group. An insensitivity to
    collateral damage is morally repugnant, but it isn't genocide.

    Jews are just an other fanatic religious group who believe in Moses and what not
    The Faraos already kicked them out, had enough of them.

    They hadn't even got the Ten Commandments at that point. It doesn't have
    much to do with the modern sate of Israel.

    October 7 was provoked by them putting settlements and killing Palestinians.

    Hamas may think that. In reality it was a pure terrorist attention
    getting exercise.

    They just grab and steal what they can, they want the Palestinian landstrip for their own
    killing hundreds if not thousands of Palestinian kids, destroying all houses.

    Not all the houses - just the one they think are accommodating Hamas
    members. It's still a lot of houses.

    Good news source of what is happening there is Al Jazeera (banned in is-a-hell now).
    They kill journalists, doctors, healthcare workers, aid workers too, just are animals.

    The US did that in Irak too. Human error is always with us.

    US supporting them is all about weapons sales, paid for by the US taxpayer many who are now homeless because of those taxes
    and lack of real useful jobs, or shot by the weapons made by that club, even kids at schools.

    Homelessness isn't all that high in the US, and unemployment is at 4.1%.

    https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

    Netanyhu is a CIA agent and that guy who started October 7 was also one.

    Seems unlikely.

    That is how the USA plays the game, I know how CIA plays.

    Or you think you do. Cursitor Doom has the same kind of confidence.

    All for the money.
    And who pays? The US taxpayer does.

    Nice conspiracy theory, but not a plausible one.
    Hopefully Trump will end that corrupt weapon selling club.

    He didn't when he was last in power.

    Else may the rest of the world nuke it into oblivion as far as I am concerned.

    You wouldn't like the side-effects.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Sat Nov 9 01:45:28 2024
    On 11/9/2024 1:06 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    Love him or hate him, you have to give marketing props to Trump.  He
    successfully made the entire election about ->him<- and nothing else.

    You're talking about Democrats, though. I'm talking about the kind of
    candidate who could have won over the floating/undecided voters in the
    swing states.

    Most of whom weren't well educated, and were susceptible to Trump's lies.

    A Democrat candidate who could have out-lied him is conceivable, but no
    name springs to mind. Trump has been lying on a industrial scale for
    most of his career and has a string of bankruptcies to show for it.

    The take-away message is that America needs to clean up it's secondary education system, but it is unique in that it's primary and secondary education system is run and paid for by tiny school districts.

    The US constitution was written before universal education was
    economically feasible - it took Turnip Townsend's agricultural
    revolution to make it possible - and education isn't a responsibility of
    the nation or the individual states.


    Trump managed to attract a significant fraction of the Jewish-American, Muslim-American, _and_ neo-Nazi/white supremacist vote simultaneously, a
    rather remarkable feat in its way. Maybe he should get a Nobel peace
    prize, lol..

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Nov 9 17:32:38 2024
    On 9/11/2024 5:10 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:18:09 -0500, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that
    we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel. Seems about right for the mentaliy of this country. The
    squirrel was easy to find. Trapped in just a few rooms. Maybe they
    should give the man harboring the squirrel a few years in prison for
    doing something so serious of a crime.Don't worry about the thousands of
    illeagal people in the city.

    Ignorant people like Bill Sloman think that squirrels are just rats
    with a bushy tail, but they are *way* more intelligent and social.

    Squirrels and rats are both rodents, and both are moderately social
    animals - rats more so than squirrels.

    https://critterstop.com/post/can-rats-and-squirrels-live-together-understanding-their-coexistence-in-urban-environments/

    Cursitor Doom is remarkably ignorant, and doesn't seem to have any idea
    quite how ignorant he really is.

    They're easy to tame and enjoy human company. And they care about each
    other more than a lot of humans do.This short clip is very touching
    and shows this not untypical behaviour:

    Snipped the usual sentimental nonsense.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Nov 12 10:21:20 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:36:58 -0800, john larkin wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:48:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:26:30 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:49:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:34:47 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman >>>>>><bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement >>>>>>>>>>> funded by the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred >>>>>>>>>>> candidates was able to out-perform Donald Trump in the
    primaries for the 2016 presidential election. If you were >>>>>>>>>>> spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers, you were too >>>>>>>>>>> spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican >>>>>>>>> nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won >>>>>>>>> it.

    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. >>>>>>>> He's always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another >>>>>>>narcissist.

    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from, >>>>>>Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving >>>>>people away.

    Sigh... Yes, I will. However, you *really* should lead by example here >>>>and stop feeding him yourself. I've noticed you provide him with a >>>>pretty rich diet. So I'll do a deal with you (not that the last one >>>>concerning a burger and fries got me very far, but still) if you cease >>>>to respond to Bill's barbs, I'll do likewise. Agreed? In the interests >>>>of group harmony, please consider making the sacrifice along with me.

    Feeding him?

    I had been trying, roughly once a year, to engage him on not-personal >>>issues, like electronics even, but it doesn't help. He keeps getting >>>nastier.

    Haven't you noticed that he insults everyone? Badly.

    His limited vocabulary kind of lets him down on that front. Perhaps in
    the old days it was more expansive, I can't recall.
    Anyway, let's agree to just not respond to him. Both of us. Let's just
    not feed him any more. Deal?

    Yes.

    There you go, that wasn't so hard. The group will be very thankful for our efforts! :-)

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 12:58:26 2024
    C Doom wrote:
    babble

    Plonk.
    That saves time and cuts bullshit
    Lurking the same.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 07:52:57 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:58:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    C Doom wrote:
    babble

    Plonk.
    That saves time and cuts bullshit
    Lurking the same.



    Hey, CD, should we ignore JP too? He has invited me to.

    May as well. We can read the silly science web sites ourselves.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 07:54:14 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:02:20 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:00:23 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/11/2024 2:34 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:18:53 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:51:27 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 3:16 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:59:54 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 10/11/2024 12:32 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:38:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 9/11/2024 11:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:00:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 12:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>


    Trump was an unintended consequence of the Tea Party movement funded by
    the Koch brothers from 2010, none of whose preferred candidates was able
    to out-perform Donald Trump in the primaries for the 2016 presidential
    election. If you were spineless enough to appeal to the Koch brothers,
    you were too spineless to appeal to the electorate.

    So Trump masterminded a reverse takeover of a fake opposition >>>>>>>> movement? What a guy!

    There was no master mind involved. Trump ran for the Republican
    nomination as an ego trip, and was vastly surprised when he won it. >>>>>>
    I don't know how you come by the idea that Trump is an egoist. He's >>>>>> always presented as extremely modest and unassuming IMO.

    John Larkin is of roughly the same opinion - and he's another narcissist. >>>>
    Well thank heavens that's one character trait you don't suffer from,
    Bill. ;->

    PLEASE stop feeding Sloman. He is a major contributor to driving
    people away.

    In the sense that I don't give John Larkin the flattery he feels he >>deserves, which leaves him feeling insulted, so he figures that
    everybody else feels equally hurt.

    Can you not see that you're projecting (as the pyschiatrists call it)
    here, Bill? You are assuming that JL needs flattery to feel validated

    No, I need cool circuits to feel amused.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Nov 12 22:00:32 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:52:57 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:58:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    C Doom wrote:
    babble

    Plonk.
    That saves time and cuts bullshit
    Lurking the same.



    Hey, CD, should we ignore JP too? He has invited me to.

    May as well. We can read the silly science web sites ourselves.

    Fine by me! Saves time, too.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 12 22:05:30 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:55:38 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 12/11/2024 10:08 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:38:14 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
    <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

    On 2024-11-07, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
    In article <sa0oij1ka6s1pfpghsar1hse7c2s7d7s54@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
    canyon.com says...

    There are lots of people here, and in other countries, who think that >>>>>> we have too much government. Killing the squirrel was an example.




    Of all the major crime going on in the city they go after one pet
    squirrel.

    It wasn't about "crime" it was about an animal bite.
    There are no non-fatal tests for rabies in humans or animals

    Squirrels almost never get rabies.

    And yet those demonic Democrats murdered him anyway.

    You can't murder a squirrel. You can kill it, but murder is specific to >humans.

    What a bunch of jerks.

    Making it less likely that people will get rabies isn't the action of a
    jerk.

    This is precisely the kind of petty town hall interference that
    Trump needs to break up and destroy.

    And Trump is dim enough to see it that way. He's not actually all that >stupid, but he seems to be incapable of the kind of attention span that
    would let him place the action in context. Curistor Doom is equally >ill-informed, and somewhat dimmer.

    They both seem to be thoroughly ill-informed on climate change. Cursitor
    Doom went on quixotic quest to find old and misleading data to bolster
    his ill-founded opinions. Trump wouldn't have bothered.

    Whatever, Bill. I'm not going to carry on these pointless exchanges
    any longer. I have a deal with John I plan to honour.

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