<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
On 11/3/2024 5:26 PM, Don Y wrote:
<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
And, let's not forget Iran!
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:39:16 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:
On 11/3/2024 5:26 PM, Don Y wrote:
<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
And, let's not forget Iran!
And let's also not forget that Russia isn't fighting Ukraine alone,
but all the countries who've supplied arms and training to Zelensky.
IOW, an undeclared war with NATO effectively. I'd say that makes
seeking a bit of external assistance entirely justifiiable!
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
On 4/11/2024 11:51 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:39:16 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:
On 11/3/2024 5:26 PM, Don Y wrote:
<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
And, let's not forget Iran!
And let's also not forget that Russia isn't fighting Ukraine alone,
but all the countries who've supplied arms and training to Zelensky.
IOW, an undeclared war with NATO effectively. I'd say that makes
seeking a bit of external assistance entirely justifiiable!
You would, but you are a gullible twit. More perceptive observers note
that Russia invaded Ukraine, and NATO is merely supporting the Ukrainian efforts to repel that invasion.
We all know why Russia invaded the Ukraine - the country was being run
well enough by Zelensky and his ministers to highlight how corrupt and incompetent Putin's regime is.
The best is the enemy of the good - though Putin's Russian regime
doesn't even make it to mediocre.
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
And humiliated people do lash out.
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
Who would want the bits of Russia immediately adjacent to China?
On 11/3/24 19:53, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 4/11/2024 11:51 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:Depends on what's in the ground, just like in Eastern Ukraine (Lithium,
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:39:16 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:
On 11/3/2024 5:26 PM, Don Y wrote:
<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
And, let's not forget Iran!
And let's also not forget that Russia isn't fighting Ukraine alone,
but all the countries who've supplied arms and training to Zelensky.
IOW, an undeclared war with NATO effectively. I'd say that makes
seeking a bit of external assistance entirely justifiiable!
You would, but you are a gullible twit. More perceptive observers note
that Russia invaded Ukraine, and NATO is merely supporting the Ukrainian
efforts to repel that invasion.
We all know why Russia invaded the Ukraine - the country was being run
well enough by Zelensky and his ministers to highlight how corrupt and
incompetent Putin's regime is.
The best is the enemy of the good - though Putin's Russian regime
doesn't even make it to mediocre.
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
And humiliated people do lash out.
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
Who would want the bits of Russia immediately adjacent to China?
in that case). Putin doesn't give a damn if the next door neighbor makes
him look bad, he wants the Lithium for when the world finally stops
buying his oil.
Depends on what's in the ground, just like in Eastern Ukraine (Lithium, in that
case). Putin doesn't give a damn if the next door neighbor makes him look bad,
he wants the Lithium for when the world finally stops buying his oil.
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 09:49:35 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 11/3/24 19:53, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 4/11/2024 11:51 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:Depends on what's in the ground, just like in Eastern Ukraine (Lithium,
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:39:16 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> >>>> wrote:
On 11/3/2024 5:26 PM, Don Y wrote:
<https://mwi.westpoint.edu/russias-potemkin-army/>
First Vlad begs covid test kits from Trump (gee, makes
you wonder how good the russian vaccine was if they
can't even TEST for the disease!)
Then, goes, hat in hand, to China for help. "Here,
Vlad, come sit on my lap...". Then, to NKorea.
And, let's not forget Iran!
And let's also not forget that Russia isn't fighting Ukraine alone,
but all the countries who've supplied arms and training to Zelensky.
IOW, an undeclared war with NATO effectively. I'd say that makes
seeking a bit of external assistance entirely justifiiable!
You would, but you are a gullible twit. More perceptive observers note
that Russia invaded Ukraine, and NATO is merely supporting the Ukrainian >>> efforts to repel that invasion.
We all know why Russia invaded the Ukraine - the country was being run
well enough by Zelensky and his ministers to highlight how corrupt and
incompetent Putin's regime is.
The best is the enemy of the good - though Putin's Russian regime
doesn't even make it to mediocre.
It must be humiliating to have turned his country
into a second (third?) world power in such a short time!
And humiliated people do lash out.
One wonders when China will start eyeing their neighbor
to the north with the idea of acquiring some additional
*chinese* real estate (using Russia's argument re: Ukraine
as justification)?
Who would want the bits of Russia immediately adjacent to China?
in that case). Putin doesn't give a damn if the next door neighbor makes
him look bad, he wants the Lithium for when the world finally stops
buying his oil.
He really wants the Russian Empire back and he wants to be czar. He
hates "the west."
Like in Cuba, the dictators are happy, even eager, to push out the troublemakers, the thinkers, and leave a loyal, patriotic, poor,
stupid population.
On 11/4/2024 10:49 AM, wmartin wrote:
Depends on what's in the ground, just like in Eastern Ukraine (Lithium, in that
case). Putin doesn't give a damn if the next door neighbor makes him look bad,
he wants the Lithium for when the world finally stops buying his oil.
"Land" has other intangible value -- even if it just acts as a buffer
between you and your neighbor. Look how annoyed Texans are when you
point out that Alaska is *bigger*!
In Vlad's case, he is whining about the diminished state of "Russia"
after the dissolution of the USSR. The fact that all those satellite
states chose to RID themselves of the soviet state is an insult to his >personal/state pride. The fact that some would *embrace* The West,
doubly so!
It is telling that he has to use "convicts" and "foreign mercenaries"
to wage his war. Along with having to beg and borrow for equipment
and technology (doesn't speak well of your capabilities when you
go, hat in hand, looking for MATERIAL help from others). Apparently
russian citizens don't believe in the motherland enough to put THEIR
lives on the line...
[I have only 3 data points on russian life. The first, a friend who spent
a few years, there, in various cities. I asked her of her impression of >"Russia", thinking she would make some comments on the culture, etc.
She turned up her nose and said, "everything is run down". "Were you
staying in small 'villages' or 'historic buildings' where such a
state could possibly be justified?" "No. Even new construction
looked run down..."
Some months ago, another friend came back from a short visit and
I posed the same question and brought up the comment from my
other friend. "Yeah, that's probably a good way to describe it.
I was going to say 'scuzzy'..."
A few *days* ago, I spoke with a couple who are dual citizens;
"Why are you living here and not in Russia? You presumably had a
good position, there, and your spouse always talks favorably of it..."
"Big difference in standard of living. Even with our positions,
we could never afford a home and possessions like we easily
acquired, here."]
So much for russia as a first world power... (not even SUPER power)
Also note how quickly putin is to hint at using nuclear weapons.
That suggests he KNOWS his conventional forces aren't up to the task
(as Ukraine seems to be proving)
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