• oscillator gain

    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 19 07:05:08 2024
    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to JL@gct.com on Sat Oct 19 14:34:44 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    Nothing real usable to sell, nothing for export,
    giving all tax money to the US war machine,
    Leaving less for their own peepholes,
    killing others and their own peepholes.
    Sanctioning cheap Chinese stuff to leave under payed US workers with even less money to spend to stay alive.
    Threatening ASML not to sell to China, but even unable to start a chip manufacturing plant itself.
    Intel, bo[e]ing... so many...
    Was Sinwar an SeeEyeAAAAH! agent, that now needed to be eliminated
    to prevent it becoming clear the October 7 attack was CIA designed to get the US war industry running,. like Youcrane is..
    Committing genocide on Palestinians using their notayahoo agent...

    I can see clearly now

    Maybe the creator <for those that believe> had enough and like the Aztec empire.. the pyramids
    the statute of gibberish will be digged up and
    planet of the apes...

    checked by spellshaker

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 19 07:48:58 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john larkin ><JL@gct.com> wrote in <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
    world. They just have nothing to trade.

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in
    the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.
    Their economy is in exponential decay. Thanks, Fidel.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to JL@gct.com on Sat Oct 19 15:30:34 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john larkin >><JL@gct.com> wrote in <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
    world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in
    the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    Their economy is in exponential decay. Thanks, Fidel.
    Not really, apart from in that YouAsh prison on the land you stole there.

    Are there Russian nukes now installed there?

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 19 08:56:23 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john larkin ><JL@gct.com> wrote in <bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john larkin >>><JL@gct.com> wrote in <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
    world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in
    the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big
    earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All
    that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some
    people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars,
    or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled
    up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations,
    tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned
    to select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood
    ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off
    for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how
    polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still
    invent a lot of electronics.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Oct 19 21:59:05 2024
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Sat Oct 19 15:27:50 2024
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    The destruction time constant is a lot shorter than the construction
    one.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Oct 20 11:30:05 2024
    On 20/10/2024 8:59 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    The UK Labour party isn't remotely communist, and the problems they are
    coping with are the ones that the Conservative Party spent nearly a
    decade creating, though most of them can be traced back to Margaret
    Thatcher's aversion to manufacturing industry.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 12:38:49 2024
    On 20/10/2024 1:05 am, john larkin wrote:
    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    They aren't. They are a lot more complicated than that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    Breitbart is a peddler of right-wing nonsense

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    But they still manage to control the countries they rule.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    Cuba was a banana republic, and Batista was a US catspaw until Castro
    kicked him out.

    The US resented the loss of an exploitable asset, and has done it's best
    to wreck the Cuban economy ever since. Gloating about how successful
    that wrecking effort has been is unedifying, even for a right-wing creep
    like you.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to Doom on Sun Oct 20 03:52:28 2024
    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..
    unlike the you ash
    still stuck with boat anchors
    Pull up the anchors and start sailing!

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to JL@gct.com on Sun Oct 20 03:49:30 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john larkin >><JL@gct.com> wrote in <bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john larkin >>>><JL@gct.com> wrote in <tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>>gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
    world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in
    the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big
    earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All
    that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some
    people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars,
    or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled
    up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations,
    tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned
    to select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood
    ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off
    for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how
    polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still
    invent a lot of electronics.

    Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil house everyone:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States
    walmart 16000 dollar house:
    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy-online-33925177

    And as to drugs, from:
    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics
    Quick Facts on Drug Addiction
    According to the 2023 United States National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
    48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a substance use disorder in the past year.1
    10.2% of Americans 12 and older had an alcohol use disorder in the past year.1
    About 27.2 million Americans 12 or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use disorder in the past year.1
    That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of Americans 12 and older struggled with both alcohol and drug use disorders simultaneously.1
    20.4 million American adults (7.9%) suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance use disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the past year.1


    Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
    And as to financial debt, from::
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=US+debt+versus+time
    Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million from 1942 until 2024,
    reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of 2024
    and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
    source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.

    Who owns US debt:
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
    And you sanction China?
    call it a security risk?

    You guys IQ is now below 5
    You do not even have DVB-T2 yet... here all over the country.


    And seriously, if you cared about even yourself you could have prevented the florida floodings
    like we did the floodings here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Oct 20 09:06:24 2024
    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?


    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sun Oct 20 11:27:15 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    No doubt. But I can't think of a single news source that isn't!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sun Oct 20 11:24:57 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john
    larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>><bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john >>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>><tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, >>>>>>oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business- in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the
    world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in >>>>the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in >>>Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big >>earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All
    that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some
    people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars,
    or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled
    up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations,
    tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned to >>select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood
    ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off
    for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how
    polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still invent
    a lot of electronics.

    Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil
    house everyone:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States
    walmart 16000 dollar house:
    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy-
    online-33925177

    And as to drugs, from:
    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics Quick Facts
    on Drug Addiction According to the 2023 United States National Survey
    on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
    48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a substance
    use disorder in the past year.1 10.2% of Americans 12 and older had an
    alcohol use disorder in the past year.1 About 27.2 million Americans 12
    or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use disorder in the past
    year.1 That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of Americans 12 and older
    struggled with both alcohol and drug use disorders simultaneously.1
    20.4 million American adults (7.9%) suffered from both a mental health
    disorder and a substance use disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the
    past year.1


    Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
    And as to financial debt, from::
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=US+debt+versus+time
    Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million
    from 1942 until 2024,
    reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of
    2024 and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
    source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.

    Who owns US debt:
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-
    countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
    And you sanction China?
    call it a security risk?

    Timely. Many countries have been quietly divesting themselves of dollar- denominated securities owing to what happened to those held by Russia.
    When you weaponise a currency and your foreign debt, as the US has
    recently done, you better expect some blowback. Consequently, we have the
    BRICS conference this coming week (ends on Thursday IIRC) and it is
    rumoured they're on the point of announcing a new reserve currency to
    compete with the dollar for the settlement of international trade. This is
    also what is believed to be behind the current bull market in gold, since
    that commodity is expected to form at least part of the backing for the
    new currency. That could pose a threat to the dollar's monopoly, since the greenback is underpinned by nothing beyond the faith people have in it.
    Expect fireworks....

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Oct 20 23:10:10 2024
    On 20/10/2024 10:27 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    No doubt. But I can't think of a single news source that isn't!

    Breitbart, ZeroHedge and Fox News are predictably heavily biased to
    appeal to right-wing lunatics, of which Cursitor Doom is a depressingly
    rabid example.

    He's so far gone that he thinks that main stream media is biased in
    favour of his imaginary Globalists.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Sun Oct 20 08:01:15 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:24:57 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john larkin
    <JL@gct.com> wrote in <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john >>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>><bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>>><tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, >>>>>>>oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business- >in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to rule. >>>>>
    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the >>>>>world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in >>>>>the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in >>>>Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big >>>earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All >>>that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some >>>people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars,
    or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled
    up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations, >>>tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned to >>>select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood
    ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off >>>for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how >>>polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still invent
    a lot of electronics.

    Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil
    house everyone:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States
    walmart 16000 dollar house:
    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy- >online-33925177

    And as to drugs, from:
    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics Quick Facts
    on Drug Addiction According to the 2023 United States National Survey
    on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
    48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a substance
    use disorder in the past year.1 10.2% of Americans 12 and older had an
    alcohol use disorder in the past year.1 About 27.2 million Americans 12
    or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use disorder in the past
    year.1 That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of Americans 12 and older
    struggled with both alcohol and drug use disorders simultaneously.1
    20.4 million American adults (7.9%) suffered from both a mental health
    disorder and a substance use disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the
    past year.1


    Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
    And as to financial debt, from::
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=US+debt+versus+time
    Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million
    from 1942 until 2024,
    reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of
    2024 and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
    source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.

    Who owns US debt:
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5- >countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
    And you sanction China?
    call it a security risk?

    Timely. Many countries have been quietly divesting themselves of dollar- >denominated securities owing to what happened to those held by Russia.
    When you weaponise a currency and your foreign debt, as the US has
    recently done, you better expect some blowback. Consequently, we have the >BRICS conference this coming week (ends on Thursday IIRC) and it is
    rumoured they're on the point of announcing a new reserve currency to
    compete with the dollar for the settlement of international trade. This is >also what is believed to be behind the current bull market in gold, since >that commodity is expected to form at least part of the backing for the
    new currency. That could pose a threat to the dollar's monopoly, since the >greenback is underpinned by nothing beyond the faith people have in it. >Expect fireworks....

    Any currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its
    country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

    No conference of bureaucrats ever does much but reduce productivity.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 20 08:18:35 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor >Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin
    wants them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid
    population to rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    unlike the you ash
    still stuck with boat anchors
    Pull up the anchors and start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing.
    It's still the technology center of the world. Farm output is
    fantastic and still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The
    most talented people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes
    or start industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the
    world will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of
    outdoor recreation.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived
    where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort
    of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sun Oct 20 08:23:56 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    It usually takes a generation to really wreck things, although it has
    been done a lot faster.


    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    Most news sources are horribly biased, essentially propaganda.

    Real Clear at least links to both sides.

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic
    lately. I hope that trend continues.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Sun Oct 20 08:25:47 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:27:15 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    No doubt. But I can't think of a single news source that isn't!

    Real Clear Politics has alternate crazy-left and crazy-right links.
    That's pretty much all that's available.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 16:44:26 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:01:15 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:24:57 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john
    larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in
    <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john >>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>><bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>>><alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>>>><tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, >>>>>>>>oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-
    business-
    in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to >>>>>>>rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the >>>>>>world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in >>>>>>the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in >>>>>Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big >>>>earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All >>>>that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some >>>>people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars, >>>>or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled >>>>up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations, >>>>tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned
    to select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood >>>>ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off >>>>for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how >>>>polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still
    invent a lot of electronics.

    Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil
    house everyone:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    Homelessness_in_the_United_States
    walmart 16000 dollar house:
    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy- >>online-33925177

    And as to drugs, from:
    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics Quick Facts
    on Drug Addiction According to the 2023 United States National Survey
    on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
    48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a
    substance use disorder in the past year.1 10.2% of Americans 12 and
    older had an alcohol use disorder in the past year.1 About 27.2
    million Americans 12 or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use
    disorder in the past year.1 That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of
    Americans 12 and older struggled with both alcohol and drug use
    disorders simultaneously.1 20.4 million American adults (7.9%)
    suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance use
    disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the past year.1


    Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
    And as to financial debt, from::
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-
    e&q=US+debt+versus+time
    Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million
    from 1942 until 2024,
    reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of
    2024 and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
    source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.

    Who owns US debt:
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5- >>countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
    And you sanction China?
    call it a security risk?

    Timely. Many countries have been quietly divesting themselves of dollar- >>denominated securities owing to what happened to those held by Russia.
    When you weaponise a currency and your foreign debt, as the US has
    recently done, you better expect some blowback. Consequently, we have
    the BRICS conference this coming week (ends on Thursday IIRC) and it is >>rumoured they're on the point of announcing a new reserve currency to >>compete with the dollar for the settlement of international trade. This
    is also what is believed to be behind the current bull market in gold, >>since that commodity is expected to form at least part of the backing
    for the new currency. That could pose a threat to the dollar's monopoly, >>since the greenback is underpinned by nothing beyond the faith people
    have in it. Expect fireworks....

    Any currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its
    country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

    Any *fiat* currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

    There, FIFY.

    No conference of bureaucrats ever does much but reduce productivity.

    Especially if they've never had to live in the *real* world of hard-nosed business dealings.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 16:50:42 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:18:35 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in >><vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin wants
    them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid population to
    rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    Same applies in just about all Western countries.

    unlike the you ash still stuck with boat anchors Pull up the anchors and >>start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing. It's
    still the technology center of the world. Farm output is fantastic and
    still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The most talented
    people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes or start
    industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the world
    will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of outdoor recreation.

    If you say so, John.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    I'm not surprised. You'd have to be uber *ultra-wacky* to stand out in SF!

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    You're sounding like some dreamy, Liberal idealist. Your vision might have
    come true in time, but sadly we have an evil cohort who want conflict and perpetual war just for the sake of it. The future ain't bright.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 16:58:46 2024
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's
    been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a
    bad analogy. It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order
    to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks
    economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers
    involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 14:06:35 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>> britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    It usually takes a generation to really wreck things, although it has
    been done a lot faster.


    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    Most news sources are horribly biased, essentially propaganda.

    Real Clear at least links to both sides.

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic
    lately. I hope that trend continues.

    The big alternative to the NYT is the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), which
    has been directly criticizing the NYT for their unbalanced coverage,
    and is quite useful for pointing out what has been omitted. In the
    old days, the NYT would be the check on the WSJ, and so on.

    Joe Gwinn

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Sun Oct 20 18:38:45 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:06:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00,
    oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months.
    It doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    It usually takes a generation to really wreck things, although it has
    been done a lot faster.


    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    Most news sources are horribly biased, essentially propaganda.

    Real Clear at least links to both sides.

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic >>lately. I hope that trend continues.

    The big alternative to the NYT is the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), which
    has been directly criticizing the NYT for their unbalanced coverage, and
    is quite useful for pointing out what has been omitted. In the old
    days, the NYT would be the check on the WSJ, and so on.

    The WSJ has been owned by Rupert Murdoch for a while now IIRC, so it's not surprising they're calling out the disgraceful NYT for its biased
    coverage.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 11:51:38 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>> britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It
    doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    It usually takes a generation to really wreck things, although it has
    been done a lot faster.


    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    Most news sources are horribly biased, essentially propaganda.

    Real Clear at least links to both sides.

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic
    lately. I hope that trend continues.




    Not today! The NYT is all Trump Trash everywhere today. They couldn't
    publish a blueberry muffin recipe without insulting Trump.

    But they don't talk about Harris much.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 19:49:25 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:51:38 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00,
    oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months.
    It doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    It usually takes a generation to really wreck things, although it has
    been done a lot faster.


    Could Breitbart be biassed in some way ?

    Most news sources are horribly biased, essentially propaganda.

    Real Clear at least links to both sides.

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic >>lately. I hope that trend continues.




    Not today! The NYT is all Trump Trash everywhere today. They couldn't
    publish a blueberry muffin recipe without insulting Trump.

    But they don't talk about Harris much.

    Well, there's not much to say, is there? All she does is laugh like a
    hyena and pull funny faces. It seems the MSM are giving her an easy time
    of it (not surprisingly). She'll make an excellent puppet for the
    Globalists to give orders to; won't query anything and will do exactly as
    she's told without complaint.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Rawde@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Oct 20 22:43:40 2024
    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:mq6ahj5regralv83p9gmipv468j53qj4nr@4ax.com...
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor >>Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>>britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin
    wants them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid
    population to rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    unlike the you ash
    still stuck with boat anchors
    Pull up the anchors and start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing.
    It's still the technology center of the world. Farm output is
    fantastic and still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The
    most talented people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes
    or start industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the
    world will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of
    outdoor recreation.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived
    where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort
    of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    And pigs will grow wings.




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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Oct 21 14:28:34 2024
    On 21/10/2024 5:38 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:06:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    <snip>

    The big alternative to the NYT is the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), which
    has been directly criticizing the NYT for their unbalanced coverage, and
    is quite useful for pointing out what has been omitted. In the old
    days, the NYT would be the check on the WSJ, and so on.

    The WSJ has been owned by Rupert Murdoch for a while now IIRC, so it's not surprising they're calling out the disgraceful NYT for its biased
    coverage.

    Rupert Murdoch's newspapers print the propaganda of people who have
    enough money to bribe Rupert Murdoch.

    The bias is what Rupert is selling. Essentially the WSJ is complaining
    that the NYT isn't printing the propaganda that the WSJ is paid to print.

    With Fox News running as Donald Trump personal propaganda machine,
    you've got a fairly direct measure of Rupert Murdoch's journalistic
    integrity.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Oct 21 14:17:50 2024
    On 21/10/2024 2:18 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor >> Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin
    wants them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid
    population to rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    Smart people can work out how not to have babies, if they don't want
    them. Most of the smart people I know have two or three kids.

    <snipped Jan being stupid>

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing.
    It's still the technology center of the world. Farm output is
    fantastic and still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The
    most talented people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes
    or start industries.

    They used to. The rest of the world has learned how to bribe their best
    and brightest to stay at home. The US with its over-priced health care
    and gross social inequality, is a much less attractive destination for
    clever people than it used to be, so the bribes don't have to be all
    that generous.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the
    world will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of
    outdoor recreation.

    Except that it isn't super productive or super multi-cultural any more.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived
    where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    Australia would work just as well for him, but you wouldn't have read
    his essay if he lived in Sydney.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort
    of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    Pretty much everybody can speak English in countries that do secondary education. They tend not to speak it at home.

    The US has a lot of racial and language-based tribalism, so it has got a
    long way to go. It's military-industrial complex needs wars to keep it's turnover high, in the same way that the fossil carbon extraction
    industry needs to sell a lot of fossil carbon as fuel, despite the
    unfortunate side effects of burning it.

    As prophet, John Larkin sucks.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Oct 21 17:59:15 2024
    On 21/10/2024 5:51 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    The New York Times seems to be getting a little bit more journalistic
    lately. I hope that trend continues.

    Not today! The NYT is all Trump Trash everywhere today. They couldn't
    publish a blueberry muffin recipe without insulting Trump.

    But they don't talk about Harris much.

    She's tediously sane and normal. Trump is a depressingly example of the
    defects of American "democracy" - a somewhat unnatural disaster - and
    reporters love reporting disasters.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Oct 21 22:36:21 2024
    On 21/10/2024 6:49 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:51:38 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:23:56 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:06:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    Not today! The NYT is all Trump Trash everywhere today. They couldn't
    publish a blueberry muffin recipe without insulting Trump.

    But they don't talk about Harris much.

    Well, there's not much to say, is there? All she does is laugh like a
    hyena and pull funny faces.

    She did react sensibly to Trump's more absurd outburst during the debate.
    She did laugh, if not much like a hyena.

    Somebody more susceptible to rational argument than Cursitor Doom might
    have noticed that she offered quite a lot of it.

    It seems the MSM are giving her an easy time
    of it (not surprisingly). She'll make an excellent puppet for the
    Globalists to give orders to; won't query anything and will do exactly as she's told without complaint.

    If there were any actual Globalists to order her about, I doubt if she
    would pay much attention to them. She had a fairly impressive career as
    a prosecutor, which suggests that she isn't all that biddable.

    Cursitor Doon does seem to believe all the right-wing nonsense that the
    Murdoch media throw at him, so he may well be projecting.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Mon Oct 21 14:28:44 2024
    In article <vf3cs6$g5ng$5@dont-email.me>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual >method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's
    been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a
    bad analogy. It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order
    to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks >economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers
    involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man.

    Regulating an economy with pouring government money into crucial
    sectors and infrastructure, seems vastly more effective.
    China does this, and remember Trump-level corruption can get you
    a dead penalty.

    Groetjes Albert.
    --
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    Last Supper Acrylic Suncatcher - 15Cm Round Stained Glass- Style Wall
    Art For Home, Office And Garden Decor - Perfect For Windows, Bars,
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl on Tue Oct 22 02:01:38 2024
    On 21/10/2024 11:28 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <vf3cs6$g5ng$5@dont-email.me>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual
    method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's
    been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a
    bad analogy. It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order
    to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks
    economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers
    involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man.

    Regulating an economy with pouring government money into crucial
    sectors and infrastructure, seems vastly more effective.
    China does this, and remember Trump-level corruption can get you
    a death penalty.

    China has been playing catch-up until recently, as Japan did earlier.

    When you've got foreign examples of what does work, it a lot easier to
    pour the investment into sectors that you know can use it, because other advanced industrial countries did it first and demonstrated that it
    could work.

    Once you've caught up, you got to make your own developments decisions,
    and that's a lot more difficult. The rule of thumb I heard was that
    about 30% of development projects developed something useful and
    profitable, and the remaining 70% didn't earn anything out of the effort
    put in,and many got cancelled before they'd got anywhere at all.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to invalid@invalid.invalid on Mon Oct 21 08:31:17 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 22:43:40 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:mq6ahj5regralv83p9gmipv468j53qj4nr@4ax.com...
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor >>>Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>>>britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>>doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin
    wants them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid
    population to rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    unlike the you ash
    still stuck with boat anchors
    Pull up the anchors and start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing.
    It's still the technology center of the world. Farm output is
    fantastic and still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The
    most talented people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes
    or start industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the
    world will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of
    outdoor recreation.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived
    where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort
    of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    And pigs will grow wings.


    People don't fly pigs. They use airplanes.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Mon Oct 21 08:40:37 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:58:46 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual >method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's
    been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a
    bad analogy.

    Economists don't even agree on which direction to pull, but they do
    mostly want to pull hard. It's the power thing. Just Powell's body
    language slams a trillion dollars around nowadays.

    It's not a good career path for an economist to say "leave it alone
    and the market will work."

    I cite the morons who forced interest rates to zero for years and
    didn't think what might happen.

    It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order
    to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks >economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers
    involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man.

    So let 300 million people decide.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Mon Oct 21 08:29:30 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:50:42 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:18:35 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened >>>Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in >>><vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>>doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin wants
    them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid population to
    rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    Same applies in just about all Western countries.

    The thing about evolution and natural selection is that long-term they
    favor critters that breed.



    unlike the you ash still stuck with boat anchors Pull up the anchors and >>>start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing. It's
    still the technology center of the world. Farm output is fantastic and
    still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The most talented
    people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes or start
    industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the world
    will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of outdoor
    recreation.

    If you say so, John.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived where
    people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    I'm not surprised. You'd have to be uber *ultra-wacky* to stand out in SF!

    Exactly. People come here and try to look strange and nobody much
    notices. Maybe wearing a red tux and a top hat would get a little
    attention. But that's a national trend; you could look weird in
    Hattiesburg Mississippi nowadays and not cause a stir. Races date and
    have adorable babies.


    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort of
    English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    You're sounding like some dreamy, Liberal idealist. Your vision might have >come true in time, but sadly we have an evil cohort who want conflict and >perpetual war just for the sake of it. The future ain't bright.

    People travel and migrate all over the world now. They didn't do much
    of that in 1491. My company looks like a UN committee.

    Of course it will take time to homogenize the gene pool. Half-life for
    that might be 300 years or so.

    It would be interesting to see how mixing of the gene pool and
    universal English will affect tribal warfare. Hitler attacked
    countries to "protect" German-speaking minorities. Putin attacked
    countries to "protect" Russian speakers.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Oct 22 02:46:12 2024
    On 22/10/2024 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 22:43:40 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:mq6ahj5regralv83p9gmipv468j53qj4nr@4ax.com...
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
    Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>: >>>>
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in- >>>>> britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>>> doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin
    wants them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid
    population to rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    unlike the you ash
    still stuck with boat anchors
    Pull up the anchors and start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing.
    It's still the technology center of the world. Farm output is
    fantastic and still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The
    most talented people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes
    or start industries.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the
    world will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of
    outdoor recreation.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived
    where people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort
    of English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    And pigs will grow wings.

    People don't fly pigs. They use airplanes.

    Native speakers of English are aware that "pigs might fly" is an
    expression of scepticism about a statement being responded to, rather
    than any kind of literal statement.

    I was more verbose in my deprecation of your claims (which were
    remarkably silly).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Oct 22 03:18:03 2024
    On 22/10/2024 2:29 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:50:42 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:18:35 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:52:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:05 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
    Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in
    <vf1a39$1su3$4@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations >>>>>> gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-
    in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    And the Communists have only been in government for around 2 months. It >>>>> doesn't take long for them to wreck everything!

    Russia and China are doing just fine..

    Russia is falling apart. The real talent is leaving. I think Putin wants >>> them out, so he can have a loyal, patriotic, poor, stupid population to
    rule over.

    Both Russia and China face a demographic disaster: people, especially
    the smartest people, aren't having babies.

    Same applies in just about all Western countries.

    The thing about evolution and natural selection is that long-term they
    favor critters that breed.

    And survive. Having kids is a judgement call - have too many and most of
    them die before they can reproduce. The human population is quite high
    at the moment, and the reproductive drive may be being dialled back in
    the west by some mechanism that got built into the genome quite a few generations ago.

    unlike the you ash still stuck with boat anchors Pull up the anchors and >>>> start sailing!

    The US is doing pretty well, given the ways the world is changing. It's
    still the technology center of the world. Farm output is fantastic and
    still increasing. We have huge energy resources. The most talented
    people in the world emigrate here and get Nobel prizes or start
    industries.

    They used to. The US isn't the magnet it was for clever people.

    It could be that the USA is actually the pioneer case for how the world
    will be: super multicultural and super productive and lots of outdoor
    recreation.

    If you say so, John.

    I read an essay by a half-asian half-anglo guy who moved to San
    Francisco. He loves it here because it's the only place he's lived where >>> people didn't stare at him for looking different.

    I'm not surprised. You'd have to be uber *ultra-wacky* to stand out in SF!

    Exactly. People come here and try to look strange and nobody much
    notices. Maybe wearing a red tux and a top hat would get a little
    attention. But that's a national trend; you could look weird in
    Hattiesburg Mississippi nowadays and not cause a stir. Races date and
    have adorable babies.

    If they have babies at all.

    Ultimately, the world will homogenize and everybody will speak a sort of >>> English. Without racial and language-based tribalism, and everybody
    moving around, we won't need wars.

    You're sounding like some dreamy, Liberal idealist. Your vision might have >> come true in time, but sadly we have an evil cohort who want conflict and
    perpetual war just for the sake of it. The future ain't bright.

    People travel and migrate all over the world now. They didn't do much
    of that in 1491. My company looks like a UN committee.

    Of course it will take time to homogenize the gene pool. Half-life for
    that might be 300 years or so.

    The gene pool won't get homogenised. Successful species spawn specialist sub-species who exploit progressively more specific environments.

    The populations of the different specialised environments tend to mate
    with one another, and you get speciation by reproductive isolation.

    It would be interesting to see how mixing of the gene pool and
    universal English will affect tribal warfare. Hitler attacked
    countries to "protect" German-speaking minorities. Putin attacked
    countries to "protect" Russian speakers.

    English isn't going to be universal. Specialised environments are going
    to force the evolution of specialised languages that are optimised for exploiting that particular environment.

    Hitler and Putin weren't "protecting" anybody - they were just trotting
    out excuses for land-grabs.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Mon Oct 21 17:55:11 2024
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 22/10/2024 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    [...]


    And pigs will grow wings.

    People don't fly pigs. They use airplanes.

    Native speakers of English are aware that "pigs might fly" is an
    expression of scepticism...

    They also call the flying machines "Aeroplanes".

    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to cd999666@notformail.com on Mon Oct 21 12:11:09 2024
    XPost: us.politics

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:44:26 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:01:15 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:24:57 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
    <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 03:49:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:23 -0700) it happened john
    larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in
    <fpk7hj9v4k5bjohp1r1ub68f484hipcr2g@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:48:58 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>>><bah7hjtiobtfo3ai07bn5b1a8oscjrjbf8@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:34:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>>>><alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>>>larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in >>>>>>>><tue7hjlscute2kmj2tdujsen4dumk65d1r@4ax.com>:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, >>>>>>>>>oscillations gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-
    business-
    in-britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Is it still dark in Cuba?

    US sanctioning / pestering Cuba is an other way stupids try to >>>>>>>>rule.

    There is no blockade. Cuba can trade with the entire rest of the >>>>>>>world. They just have nothing to trade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    ByeThen doing it again

    Pity. Cuban rum was great. I could buy Havana Club rum when I was in >>>>>>>the USSR.

    Cubans are now scrounging in garbage dumps for food, in the dark.

    Not really, you are confusing it all with hundreds of thousands in >>>>>>Florida without power, housing, money and food.
    and prcendents sightseeing flying above it to get elected.

    I've been in several giant hurricanes and one tornado and one big >>>>>earthquake, and a rescue mission to Louisiana just after Katrina. All >>>>>that was orderly, organized, and the regions recovered quickly. Some >>>>>people evacuated the coastal cities and had to sleep in tents or cars, >>>>>or the houses of strangers, for a few days when all the motels filled >>>>>up.

    After Hurricane Katrina, people were driving to local gas stations, >>>>>tanking up and stuffing their cars with free MREs. They soon learned >>>>>to select the tastiest.

    When power failed in the biggish 1989 earthquake, we had neighborhood >>>>>ice cream parties before it all melted. As it turns out, power was off >>>>>for less than two days.

    Traffic lights were out for a couple of days. You can't imagine how >>>>>polite and helpful all the drivers were.

    Sorry to disappoint, but the USA is not in decline. And we still >>>>>invent a lot of electronics.

    Well, sure there is hope for your homeless, bit of taxpayer money wil
    house everyone:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    Homelessness_in_the_United_States
    walmart 16000 dollar house:
    https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/walmart-tiny-home-buy- >>>online-33925177

    And as to drugs, from:
    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/addiction-statistics Quick Facts >>>> on Drug Addiction According to the 2023 United States National Survey >>>> on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH):
    48.5 million (16.7%) Americans (aged 12 and older) battled a
    substance use disorder in the past year.1 10.2% of Americans 12 and
    older had an alcohol use disorder in the past year.1 About 27.2
    million Americans 12 or older (9.7%) reported battling a drug use
    disorder in the past year.1 That same year, 7.5 million (2.7%) of
    Americans 12 and older struggled with both alcohol and drug use
    disorders simultaneously.1 20.4 million American adults (7.9%)
    suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance use
    disorder, or co-occurring disorders in the past year.1


    Not in decline? You must be joking or on some?
    And as to financial debt, from::
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-
    e&q=US+debt+versus+time
    Government Debt in the United States averaged 5780788.09 USD Million >>>> from 1942 until 2024,
    reaching an all time high of 35464674.00 USD Million in September of >>>> 2024 and a record low of 60000.00 USD Million in January of 1942.
    source: U.S. Department of the Treasury.

    Who owns US debt:
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5- >>>countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
    And you sanction China?
    call it a security risk?

    Timely. Many countries have been quietly divesting themselves of dollar- >>>denominated securities owing to what happened to those held by Russia. >>>When you weaponise a currency and your foreign debt, as the US has >>>recently done, you better expect some blowback. Consequently, we have
    the BRICS conference this coming week (ends on Thursday IIRC) and it is >>>rumoured they're on the point of announcing a new reserve currency to >>>compete with the dollar for the settlement of international trade. This >>>is also what is believed to be behind the current bull market in gold, >>>since that commodity is expected to form at least part of the backing
    for the new currency. That could pose a threat to the dollar's monopoly, >>>since the greenback is underpinned by nothing beyond the faith people >>>have in it. Expect fireworks....

    Any currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its
    country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

    Any *fiat* currency is ultimately underpinned by the productivity of its >country and people. That's a simple conservation principle.

    There, FIFY.

    No conference of bureaucrats ever does much but reduce productivity.

    Especially if they've never had to live in the *real* world of hard-nosed >business dealings.

    One could name names.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Oct 22 17:31:47 2024
    On 22/10/2024 2:40 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:58:46 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 07:05:08 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    If the loop gain of an oscillator is slightly over 1.00, oscillations
    gain amplitude. Just under 1.00, they die out.

    Economies are like that.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/19/record-633000-business-in-
    britain-on-brink-of-collapse-report/

    and politicians don't understand control theory.

    Regulating an economy through monetary policy (interest rates - the usual
    method) is far more problematic than most folks would ever imagine. It's
    been likened to pulling a brick with an elastic band - and that's not a
    bad analogy.

    Economists don't even agree on which direction to pull, but they do
    mostly want to pull hard. It's the power thing. Just Powell's body
    language slams a trillion dollars around nowadays.

    Most economists do agree about the direction to pull. It's a
    quantitative science so - while there are differences about the size of
    the pull required - there's a measure of concensus about that too.
    Theatrics do come into it, but mostly from the lunatic fringe.

    It's not a good career path for an economist to say "leave it alone
    and the market will work."

    That approach leaves the economy cycling between boom and bust.
    Bang-bang control sort of works, but it doesn't work well.

    I cite the morons who forced interest rates to zero for years and
    didn't think what might happen.

    That was a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic,and avoided a recession.
    They were thinking very carefully about what might happen, even if you couldn't.

    It's incredibly difficult to get the rate set right in order
    to produce long-term stability and the optimally desired 'goldilocks
    economy'. That's why there's normally a panel of economic advisers
    involved. It's too complex a decision for just one man.

    So let 300 million people decide.

    This is the same group who hasn't rejected Donald Trump decisively
    enough. It's hard to keep them well informed about complicated subject,
    and even harder when there's a lot of self-interested propaganda flying
    around. You have been totally suckered by climate change denial
    propaganda, and your opinions on economics are evidently equally
    susceptible to lying propaganda.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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