• nice STEP viewer

    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 16:39:42 2024
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 01:17:27 2024
    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical
    purposes.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to ksi@koi8.net on Mon Sep 23 19:15:58 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    This is our version of the dreadful Hammond box. We're just now adding
    the bottom flange, to allow serious power dissipation. That will be an extrusion too.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lzl4f9lrqx42ed1ie52gi/B-box_flange_3D.jpg?rlkey=y11cvnojksaemvb8z5x802pud&raw=1

    Well, I like it.

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 03:43:57 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in
    STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your
    own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.

    As a side note -- NEVER EVER use that stupid Python thing! Those script kids make even MINOR versions incompatible with the previous ones few versions
    back and MAJOR versions are ROYAL PITA. It constantly changes and almost
    every new version is incompatible with the software that worked with
    previous one. And unlike e.g. C, it is an INTERPRETED weirdo so there is no such thing as pre-compiled binaries that one can keep working when a new
    "even better, with concepts changed" version is released. It is NOT some
    minor syntax changes that can be easily addressed; their changes are MAJOR
    so you'll have to re-write the code for it to work with their consecutive
    "even better" version as many constructs totally disappear or get replaced
    with new ones that you have to re-write significant portions of your code
    for.

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  • From Edward Rawde@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 01:35:51 2024
    "john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:iuu3fjhdi0l1l479aes7oaoaadarns426n@4ax.com...
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.


    Had to be whitelisted in my firewall first.
    I've nothing against Hungary but I don't permit outbound by default.

    My preference would be a solution such as the one pointed out by Sergey.

    I like Python but yes it can be a pain for all the reasons given.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to ksi@koi8.net on Tue Sep 24 07:55:08 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 03:43:57 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>>purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in
    STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your >own 3D models from scratch.

    I have two guys doing my mechanical design, both SolidWorks jocks. I
    design electronics, so I just want to see what they are doing. If I
    have a machanical design idea, I send them a sketch.

    I'll look at FreeCad.


    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in >standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.

    As a side note -- NEVER EVER use that stupid Python thing! Those script kids >make even MINOR versions incompatible with the previous ones few versions >back and MAJOR versions are ROYAL PITA. It constantly changes and almost >every new version is incompatible with the software that worked with
    previous one. And unlike e.g. C, it is an INTERPRETED weirdo so there is no >such thing as pre-compiled binaries that one can keep working when a new >"even better, with concepts changed" version is released. It is NOT some >minor syntax changes that can be easily addressed; their changes are MAJOR
    so you'll have to re-write the code for it to work with their consecutive >"even better" version as many constructs totally disappear or get replaced >with new ones that you have to re-write significant portions of your code >for.

    Python, like most modern computer languages, is a battleground for
    religious wars.

    Now we have Rust, which looks like an explosion in an alphabet soup
    factory. In a war zone.




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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to Sergey Kubushyn on Tue Sep 24 21:27:24 2024
    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical
    purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in
    STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ...
    and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 17:44:44 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:27:24 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical
    purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in
    STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your >> own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in >> standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ...
    and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either


    Python Wars. The online STEP viewer just worked.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 19:54:50 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:15:58 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    This is our version of the dreadful Hammond box. We're just now adding
    the bottom flange, to allow serious power dissipation. That will be an >extrusion too.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lzl4f9lrqx42ed1ie52gi/B-box_flange_3D.jpg?rlkey=y11cvnojksaemvb8z5x802pud&raw=1


    Now the challenge is to mount three of these in a 1U rackmount adapter
    tray, and snug them down good, without having to remove the tray from
    the rack. Maybe that's too ambitious.

    A ball-end hex driver works at a 25 degree angle off vertical (some
    people say 30) so the two front mounting screws can be accessed from
    the front of the rack.

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Sep 25 03:59:48 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:27:24 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>>>> purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in >>> STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your >>> own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in >>> standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ... >>and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either


    Python Wars. The online STEP viewer just worked.

    The offline FreeCAD also works. As-is on a Windoze machine, and also works under Linux, just not included in the Fedora repository anymore. One can
    still make it run in Fedora, just requires some extra effort now vs just installing it from a repo before they switched to "even better" Python 3 and FreeCAD guys were not quick enough to make a buildable Python 3 version for
    the new Fedora release. It might even be added back in the next release as
    it is a usable program in high demand.

    EVERYTHING online just sucks big time. Even something written in, sorry for
    an expletive, Python is better if it runs locally.

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Sep 25 09:53:09 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:27:24 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>>>> purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in >>> STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your >>> own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in >>> standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ... >>and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either


    Python Wars. The online STEP viewer just worked.

    Viewing STEP files in FreeCAD is easy enough. You just import them. My main use of FreeCAD was converting IGES to STEP. You just import IGES and export STEP. Though IGES parts have no color, so then you just point click on the surfaces to
    change the color. I never used the Python feature.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Sep 25 09:08:43 2024
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:53:09, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:

    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:27:24 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>>>>> purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in >>>> STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your
    own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in
    standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ... >>>and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either


    Python Wars. The online STEP viewer just worked.

    Viewing STEP files in FreeCAD is easy enough. You just import them. My main use
    of FreeCAD was converting IGES to STEP. You just import IGES and export STEP. >Though IGES parts have no color, so then you just point click on the surfaces to
    change the color. I never used the Python feature.

    Does FreeCad need the Python runtime system?

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 12:48:24 2024
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:53:09, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:

    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:27:24 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 9/24/24 05:43, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 01:17:27 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    https://3dviewer.net

    No registration, no hassles, includes measurements.

    Unfortunately, it is ONLINE i.e. ABSOLUTELY USELESS for all practical >>>>>>> purposes.


    I think that viewing a STEP file is useful. I can see what my
    mechanical guys are doing.

    edrawings is a huge pain to install and soon breaks.

    Just go get FreeCAD. Not just enables you to view and measure objects in >>>>> STEP format but it is also a full blown 3D CAD that allows you to make your
    own 3D models from scratch.

    They blew it for Linux because it is mostly Python so it is not included in
    standard Fedora anymore, but works just fine under Windoze.


    Fedora has python, just not the nearly 15! year old obsolete version ... >>>>and freecad is not going to keep 2.x support either


    Python Wars. The online STEP viewer just worked.

    Viewing STEP files in FreeCAD is easy enough. You just import them. My main use
    of FreeCAD was converting IGES to STEP. You just import IGES and export STEP. >>Though IGES parts have no color, so then you just point click on the surfaces to
    change the color. I never used the Python feature.

    Does FreeCad need the Python runtime system?

    I don't think so. Not on Windows, at least. The Python interpreter is built in. It has portable version, you just unzip.

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