• Re: This is Not America

    From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Tom Del Rosso on Mon Sep 23 22:51:28 2024
    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it
    furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
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  • From Tom Del Rosso@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Sep 23 18:25:05 2024
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.


    --
    Defund the Thought Police

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Mon Sep 23 16:34:30 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it
    furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 12:51:21 2024
    On 24/09/2024 9:34 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.

    Karl Marx didn't go in fr murdering people. John Larkin's "real
    marxists" are an invention of the political propaganda he reads - and
    being the gullble twit he is - believes.

    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.

    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    I've got a masters (in inorganic chemistry) and a Ph.D. in physical
    chemistry. I didn't flunk anything, but the master's project was
    ill-conceived.

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Didn't have enough sense to flatter John Larkin as fulsomely as he
    should have done. Or maybe a bad case intellectual integrity.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Tue Sep 24 14:57:09 2024
    On 9/23/2024 10:51 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Didn't have enough sense to flatter John Larkin as fulsomely as he
    should have done. Or maybe a bad case intellectual integrity.


    If someone want a "great theorist" who can also sling solder and knows
    their way around a bench that seems like something to be resolved at the interview stage, not however many months or years later.

    But yeah everyone I know myself included has been turned down for
    positions where despite being very familiar with the potential
    employer's actual problem they prefer to discuss some other random thing
    not significantly related to the job description as written, up to and including sports or what my relationship with my mother is like
    (seriously.)

    I optimistically chalk it up to "cultural differences" but I do prefer employers do that sorting at the interview stage.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Sep 24 12:12:41 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:57:09 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2024 10:51 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Didn't have enough sense to flatter John Larkin as fulsomely as he
    should have done. Or maybe a bad case intellectual integrity.


    If someone want a "great theorist" who can also sling solder and knows
    their way around a bench that seems like something to be resolved at the >interview stage, not however many months or years later.

    But yeah everyone I know myself included has been turned down for
    positions where despite being very familiar with the potential
    employer's actual problem they prefer to discuss some other random thing
    not significantly related to the job description as written, up to and >including sports or what my relationship with my mother is like
    (seriously.)

    I optimistically chalk it up to "cultural differences" but I do prefer >employers do that sorting at the interview stage.

    It's a fact that you don't really know a person until you work with
    them.

    Designing things is a mix of technology and personality. It's hard to
    interview for both.

    In my last case, the person wanted to do fancy complex slow expensive
    stuff to solve simple problems.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Sep 24 14:38:57 2024
    On 9/23/2024 7:34 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.

    Republicans do seem to keep taking pops at Trump they should try to
    knock that off.

    The "real Marxists" I'm familiar with tend to like coffee shops and
    Sartre more than the gun range but there are some (nut cases) who
    believe every cat lady with a "Coexist" sticker on her Yaris is just
    waiting to pop out guns blazing and initiate the Cultural Revolution at
    a moment's notice.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.


    Unclear to me why the US university system is considered some hotbed of
    Marxsim when it tends to be one of the most stodgy top-down
    organizations there are, with procedures and websites that tend to date
    to the technological Neolithic.

    I'm familiar with a young person with a disability who's in a STEM
    program at a relatively prestigious university and it's apparently
    difficult to get many STEM profs to even just fahkin' face forwards and
    not mumble most of the time, for the benefit of video lectures/
    transcriptions for the hard-of-hearing, much less embrace a
    dictatorshiop of the proletariat.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Sep 24 12:21:18 2024
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:38:57 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2024 7:34 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.

    Republicans do seem to keep taking pops at Trump they should try to
    knock that off.

    The "real Marxists" I'm familiar with tend to like coffee shops and
    Sartre more than the gun range but there are some (nut cases) who
    believe every cat lady with a "Coexist" sticker on her Yaris is just
    waiting to pop out guns blazing and initiate the Cultural Revolution at
    a moment's notice.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.


    Unclear to me why the US university system is considered some hotbed of >Marxsim when it tends to be one of the most stodgy top-down
    organizations there are, with procedures and websites that tend to date
    to the technological Neolithic.

    I'm familiar with a young person with a disability who's in a STEM
    program at a relatively prestigious university and it's apparently
    difficult to get many STEM profs to even just fahkin' face forwards and
    not mumble most of the time, for the benefit of video lectures/ >transcriptions for the hard-of-hearing, much less embrace a
    dictatorshiop of the proletariat.

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    Sri Lanka just elected a Marxist president.

    Cubans are scrounging in the garbage for food.

    Nobody can manage an economy, especially a Marxist.

    Karl Marx was a nasty lunatic. Google that phrase.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Sep 25 13:46:13 2024
    On 25/09/2024 5:12 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:57:09 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2024 10:51 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Didn't have enough sense to flatter John Larkin as fulsomely as he
    should have done. Or maybe a bad case intellectual integrity.


    If someone want a "great theorist" who can also sling solder and knows
    their way around a bench that seems like something to be resolved at the
    interview stage, not however many months or years later.

    But yeah everyone I know myself included has been turned down for
    positions where despite being very familiar with the potential
    employer's actual problem they prefer to discuss some other random thing
    not significantly related to the job description as written, up to and
    including sports or what my relationship with my mother is like
    (seriously.)

    I optimistically chalk it up to "cultural differences" but I do prefer
    employers do that sorting at the interview stage.

    It's a fact that you don't really know a person until you work with
    them.

    Designing things is a mix of technology and personality. It's hard to interview for both.

    In my last case, the person wanted to do fancy complex slow expensive
    stuff to solve simple problems.

    Some bosses do make that complaint a lot. They also resist any
    suggestion that the problem is any more complicated than they originally thought, and don't want to sit through a tedious explanation of what is actually going on.

    The late Ian Crutwell of Cambridge Instruments was remarkably clever,
    but really didn't want to know that the - much better - lanthenum boride electron source that we'd put into the electron beam microfabricator
    emitted a fairly tight cone of electrons, so we had to had add a double deflection system to the electron gun to make sure that the beam was
    pointed in the right direction as well as pointed at the right place.

    We did it anyway, and when every column started reliably delivering the
    20uA of beam current we needed, Ian forgave us.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Sep 25 14:20:40 2024
    On 25/09/2024 5:21 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:38:57 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2024 7:34 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.

    Republicans do seem to keep taking pops at Trump they should try to
    knock that off.

    The "real Marxists" I'm familiar with tend to like coffee shops and
    Sartre more than the gun range but there are some (nut cases) who
    believe every cat lady with a "Coexist" sticker on her Yaris is just
    waiting to pop out guns blazing and initiate the Cultural Revolution at
    a moment's notice.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.


    Unclear to me why the US university system is considered some hotbed of
    Marxsim when it tends to be one of the most stodgy top-down
    organizations there are, with procedures and websites that tend to date
    to the technological Neolithic.

    I'm familiar with a young person with a disability who's in a STEM
    program at a relatively prestigious university and it's apparently
    difficult to get many STEM profs to even just fahkin' face forwards and
    not mumble most of the time, for the benefit of video lectures/
    transcriptions for the hard-of-hearing, much less embrace a
    dictatorshiop of the proletariat.

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    Lenin and Castro were actually pretty sane. Lenin pre-dates the gulags -
    or at least the lethal form that was developed under Stalin. When Lenin
    died there were only about 200,000 people in labour camps so no mega-deaths.

    Sri Lanka just elected a Marxist president.

    He's a left-wing economist - he shares some economic ideas with Karl
    Marx, but not his view on the "leading role of the party".

    Cubans are scrounging in the garbage for food.

    Not at the moment. Their economy took a hit when the world sugar price collapsed back in 1985 and 1999, but the Cuban government did insulate
    the population from the worst of the consequences.

    Nobody can manage an economy, especially a Marxist.

    As if John Larkin knew anything about economics, or Marxist economics.

    Karl Marx was a nasty lunatic. Google that phrase.

    He wasn't an attractive character, but he certainly wasn't a lunatic. He
    even corresponded with Abraham Lincoln - Karl Marx wrote some 500
    articles for the New York Tribune, so he was well known in the US.

    Of course he's been re-invented by the American right-wing as the
    founder of totalitarian communism, which is to say as a cartoon villain.

    John Larkin is susceptible to this sort of over-simplification.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 12:02:05 2024
    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.
    Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.

    And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
    "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
    avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
    which is actually a diminuitiv.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Gerhard Hoffmann on Thu Sep 26 01:01:45 2024
    On 25/09/2024 8:02 pm, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Lenin didn't kill any millions of people - there were only about 200,000
    people in gulags when he died, and they developed their deadly character
    under Stalin

    Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.

    And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
    "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
    avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
    which is actually a diminuitive.

    I don't think that the Left had anything to do with that.

    Hitler's movement was always anti-semitic - which lead him to admire
    Henry Ford - and he shared Ford's anti-trade union principles as well.

    Mussolini actually moved from being an actual socialist to being a
    fascist - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the leading role of the party
    didn't have anything to do with democratic socialism.

    I don't think Hitler saw the word socialism as having anything to do
    with socialist principles - it was more about uniting the whole
    population, which makes it more a buzz-word than a principle in Nazi
    party title.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 09:14:59 2024
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Once the Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and
    eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything.

    Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.

    He sure damaged Cuba.


    And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
    "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
    avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
    which is actually a diminuitiv.

    All government is dynamically unstable. Power enhances power.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Sep 26 17:28:54 2024
    On 26/09/2024 2:14 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Once the Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and
    eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything.

    That was Karl Marx's political error, which got him thrown out of the International Socialist movement. His economic ideas were fine, but
    insisting on the "leading role of the party" in implementing them did
    indeed lead to tyranny, as Bakunin pointed out back in 1871.

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent-revolutionary-vested-him-in

    Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.

    He sure damaged Cuba.

    He gave the Cubans a much better medical care system than they had had
    before, and poor Cubans now probably get medical care than poor
    Americans. John Larkin thinks like a rich American, and doesn't see that advantage.

    And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
    "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
    avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
    which is actually a diminuitiv.

    All government is dynamically unstable. Power enhances power.

    And democratic institutions damp that instability. Democratic Socialist governments in Europe do a remarkably good job, but right wing American politicians and business-men spend a lot of money on lying propaganda
    denying this.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    John Larkin is a notoriously gullible twit, and has swallowed it all,
    hook, line and sinker.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Sep 29 10:12:54 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:34:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Academic brilliance and common sense seldom go hand in hand.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Sep 29 10:44:34 2024
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:14:59 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Once the Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and
    eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything.

    There wasn't even much "eventually" about it, either. By the early
    1920s, Lenin was already instigating the first wave of murderous
    persecutions. Marxists just can't wait to get their hands around other
    folks' throats. Let's not kid ourselves this madness couldn't arise
    again today, either.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to along with it - and on Sun Sep 29 10:37:32 2024
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Correct, and that's an important distinction. Solzhenitsyn was at
    pains to point out that it wasn't just Stalin who made that dreadful
    Soviet system possible. It was the Party and everyone else who went
    along with it - and said nothing.


    Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison.

    And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's
    "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully
    avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi",
    which is actually a diminuitiv.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Sep 29 20:48:44 2024
    On 29/09/2024 7:37 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Correct, and that's an important distinction. Solzhenitsyn was at
    pains to point out that it wasn't just Stalin who made that dreadful
    Soviet system possible. It was the Party and everyone else who went
    along with it - and said nothing.

    He didn't feel the need to point that Hitler had similar popular support (mostly from people who think like Cursitor Doom).

    Hitler certainly managed to score mega-deaths, though John Larkin didn't
    feel the need to add him to his list.

    Trump does has quite a lot in common with Hitler. The emphasis he puts
    on the size of his rallies is a bit of a give-away.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Sep 29 20:54:47 2024
    On 29/09/2024 7:12 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:34:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:51:28 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    28% of "Democrats" are fine about murdering a political opponent if it >>>>> furthers their "progressive" cause. Just think about *that* for a
    second.

    Luckily, 99.8% of Democrats are too wussy to ever murder anyone, even
    if they want to. *Real* marxists have no limits in that regard.


    And another second for that other poll that says 65% of people with
    master's degrees would cheat in an election.

    Democrats love to brag that most people with master's degrees are
    Democrats, so they must be smarter.



    Nah, in my world that means they flunked their Ph.D. quals. ;)

    We just fired a PhD. Great theorist, no common sense.

    Academic brilliance and common sense seldom go hand in hand.

    Cursitor Doom and John Larkin don't seem to know many people who are academically brilliant. Most of the ones I've known have been thoroughly sensible outside their specialities, which does manifest itself in a
    capacity to avoid creeps like Cursitor Doom, amongst other useful skills.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Sep 29 20:41:28 2024
    On 29/09/2024 7:44 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:14:59 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin:

    The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin,
    Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd.

    No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists.

    Once the Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and
    eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything.

    There wasn't even much "eventually" about it, either. By the early
    1920s, Lenin was already instigating the first wave of murderous persecutions.

    There were certainly murderous persecutions going on - Victor Serge's
    "Memoirs of a Revolutionary" documents that.

    https://shop.redflag.org.au/products/memoirs-of-a-revolutionary

    Lenin doesn't come out of that as any kind of psychopath (though Stalin
    does) but at the start the problem was more the Russian political system
    rather than the defects of Marxist-Leninism.

    Marxists just can't wait to get their hands around other
    folks' throats. Let's not kid ourselves this madness couldn't arise
    again today, either.

    Rubbish. Revolutions are messy, and psychopathic scum rise to power
    whatever the underlying politics happen to be.

    Trump despite his right-wing views, is no less dangerous than his
    left-wing counterparts and probably much more dangerous than any
    prominent left-winger in the west.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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