• Re: Magnifyers

    From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Aug 14 15:48:24 2024
    Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?


    I use “six-eyes mode”—two pairs of Zenni bifocals on top of each other.

    I made an inconspicuous mod to a set of my normal close work specs, which
    have stainless rims, to add small hooks using tinned 22-gauge wire.

    That way I can push the second pair up to my forehead most of the time, and flip them down into place when needed.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs



    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Aug 14 12:06:08 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    What you are looking for are "dental loupes" or "surgical loupes",
    available on amazon and from standard supply houses, at many price
    points.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 11:25:40 2024
    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Aug 14 09:28:29 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    A Mantis is fabulous.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xlf917mpiz43a9s8bq5k8/Bench_Mantis.jpg?rlkey=0y8mlr36tazn2ar7mnqr249y5&raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yi2esiz9t9r18uxb9w89m/Mantis_Box.JPG?rlkey=wppjtynriow6olb5o61vyr3oz&raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/im50fcnxp3ahtzngr202k/Mantis2.JPG?rlkey=8rcvlix0y7rxf98vmkbgk0yov&raw=1


    Some of the digital microscopes, with built-in LCD screen, are cheap
    and good, but in many the support post limits the PCB size that you
    can work on.

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Aug 14 12:14:51 2024
    On 8/14/2024 11:25 AM, Wanderer wrote:
    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    I've tried stereo microscopes, a mantis, loupes, visors, etc.
    They all suffer from "being in the way".

    Visors have the problem you stated -- PLUS all of that bulk
    in front of you *and hanging on your head).

    A jeweler's loupe will similarly tie your eyes/face to the
    subject.

    Stereomicroscope/mantis place limits on the object, its size and
    its physical configuration.

    I've "settled" for a repurposed (and revised) "low vision aid"
    as it gives me more control over where *it* is sited vs. where
    *I* want to be with respect to the subject:
    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/323780068763>
    The key part is the "eyeglasses" -- which contain a pair of
    small LCD displays. They remain in your field of vision
    regardless of where your head moves. You move the *camera*
    AS IF it was your head/eyes to gain the best view of the
    work piece. The rest of the kit is clumsy and attempts to
    address a range of *portable* (vision-related) applications.

    [You can also use a regular display but that limits where *you*
    can be. E.g., I can examine something that I simply can't get
    my head "in front of" -- as long as I can get the camera into
    a suitable viewing position]

    The hardest part to get used to is the fact that moving your
    head *doesn't* change your viewpoint

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Thu Aug 15 06:22:15 2024
    On a sunny day (Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40) it happened Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote in <331309@dontemail.com>:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    I have a 'third hand' with a large magnifying glass:
    https://www.baco-army-goods.nl/derde-handje.html
    also usefull to hold object in place while soldering.
    And some stronger reading glasses...

    But it is not so good as '3D', better get a 'Manta?' John L has one I think.

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 15 08:02:28 2024
    On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 06:22:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40) it happened >Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote in <331309@dontemail.com>:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    I have a 'third hand' with a large magnifying glass:
    https://www.baco-army-goods.nl/derde-handje.html
    also usefull to hold object in place while soldering.
    And some stronger reading glasses...

    But it is not so good as '3D', better get a 'Manta?' John L has one I think.


    Yes. It's astounding. The clarity and 3D vision are stunning, and it's
    great to work and solder under. I got a "compact" Mantis on ebay, and
    have 4x and 6x lenses.

    I stick my cell phone in the visor and take very nice pictures.

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 15 11:17:19 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:06:09. Joe Gwinn

    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    What you are looking for are "dental loupes" or "surgical loupes",
    available on amazon and from standard supply houses, at many price
    points.

    Joe Gwinn

    Thanks knowing what to search for helps a lot.

    I broke down and bought "SMEDENT Dental Surgical Loupe 3.5X
    Working Distance 360-460mm Burgundy Sport Frame" from Amazon
    while I wait for them todevelop the VR system that makes my
    postage stamp circuit board look like a dinner plate. It was
    the burgundy sport frame. It will really impress the babes.

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Thu Aug 22 03:00:16 2024
    On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:17:19, Wanderer wrote:
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:06:09. Joe Gwinn

    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    What you are looking for are "dental loupes" or "surgical loupes", >>available on amazon and from standard supply houses, at many price
    points.

    Joe Gwinn

    Thanks knowing what to search for helps a lot.

    I broke down and bought "SMEDENT Dental Surgical Loupe 3.5X
    Working Distance 360-460mm Burgundy Sport Frame" from Amazon
    while I wait for them to develop the VR system that makes my
    postage stamp circuit board look like a dinner plate. It was
    the burgundy sport frame. It will really impress the babes.

    Update: I got the Loupe. Shiny new out of the box, they seem okay.
    The focus is a little too far now, but with reading glasses it's
    better. It's best with this Discover Channel lighted magnifier I
    have. By adjusting that, I can put the focus at a comfortable
    distance and still have room to work underneath it. I guess you
    could do the same thing with one of those third hand magnifiers.

    Thanks for the help.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Thu Aug 22 15:25:23 2024
    On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:00:16, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:17:19, Wanderer wrote:
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:06:09. Joe Gwinn

    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 11:25:40, Wanderer<dont@emailme.com> wrote:


    I'm looking for better magnifiers for soldering. I have
    this magnifying visor but the focus is so short I think
    I'm going to burn my nose on the soldering iron. I need
    something that can focus on the desktop without bending
    down. The dentist had really nice glasses with telescope
    tubes on them. I bet they're expensive. Any suggestions for
    magnifyers for soldering?

    What you are looking for are "dental loupes" or "surgical loupes", >>>available on amazon and from standard supply houses, at many price >>>points.

    Joe Gwinn

    Thanks knowing what to search for helps a lot.

    I broke down and bought "SMEDENT Dental Surgical Loupe 3.5X
    Working Distance 360-460mm Burgundy Sport Frame" from Amazon
    while I wait for them to develop the VR system that makes my
    postage stamp circuit board look like a dinner plate. It was
    the burgundy sport frame. It will really impress the babes.

    Update: I got the Loupe. Shiny new out of the box, they seem okay.
    The focus is a little too far now, but with reading glasses it's
    better. It's best with this Discover Channel lighted magnifier I
    have. By adjusting that, I can put the focus at a comfortable
    distance and still have room to work underneath it. I guess you
    could do the same thing with one of those third hand magnifiers.

    A 360 mm working distance is about 14 inches, which is computer-screen distance. If one's eyes are not 20/20, the distance will be
    different.

    There is a relevant customer comment on Amazon: "Note that you can
    wear these over your glasses (it's not easy but do-able) but also
    there is an adapter included that will let you latch on to your
    existing glasses, which works relatively well, no complaints."

    Thanks for the help.

    Thanks.

    Joe Gwinn

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