• Fracking wastewater has 40% of US need for lithium

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 31 05:23:16 2024
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium
    40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri May 31 11:08:27 2024
    On 5/31/24 07:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium
    40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/



    I'd think that extracting Li at a few hundred ppm concentration levels
    from a complex mixture is likely to be expensive.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri May 31 03:32:46 2024
    On Fri, 31 May 2024 11:08:27 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 5/31/24 07:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium
    40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/



    I'd think that extracting Li at a few hundred ppm concentration levels
    from a complex mixture is likely to be expensive.

    Jeroen Belleman

    And likely unnecessary. The e-car thing has probably peaked.

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/05/30/ev-company-fisker-lays-off-hundreds-in-desperate-bid-to-stay-afloat/

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri May 31 11:08:12 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 31 May 2024 11:08:27 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v3c3uh$25n58$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 5/31/24 07:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium
    40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/



    I'd think that extracting Li at a few hundred ppm concentration levels
    from a complex mixture is likely to be expensive.

    Seems it already has been done.
    The greens already complain too:
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/29052024/pennsylvania-fracking-wastewater-lithium/

    quote:
    So far there is one Pennsylvania company, Eureka Resources in Lycoming County,
    working on lithium extraction from produced water.
    In 2023, the company announced it had successfully extracted “97 percent pure lithium carbonate”
    from wastewater and plans to incorporate the process at its three Pennsylvania facilities
    within the next two years.

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri May 31 13:42:26 2024
    On 5/31/24 13:08, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 31 May 2024 11:08:27 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v3c3uh$25n58$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 5/31/24 07:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium >>> 40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/



    I'd think that extracting Li at a few hundred ppm concentration levels >>from a complex mixture is likely to be expensive.

    Seems it already has been done.
    The greens already complain too:
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/29052024/pennsylvania-fracking-wastewater-lithium/

    quote:
    So far there is one Pennsylvania company, Eureka Resources in Lycoming County,
    working on lithium extraction from produced water.
    In 2023, the company announced it had successfully extracted “97 percent pure lithium carbonate”
    from wastewater and plans to incorporate the process at its three Pennsylvania facilities
    within the next two years.


    Yes, I saw that, but there are no details about the process, the
    composition of the raw feedstock and wastes, or the cost. I guess
    they only did this in a chemistry lab with small samples, not
    really representative of an industrial process.

    The Li concentration of raw feedstock from Chili is five times
    higher, and its composition is much simpler, making processing
    much cheaper.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri May 31 14:49:37 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 31 May 2024 13:42:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v3ccv7$277to$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 5/31/24 13:08, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 31 May 2024 11:08:27 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v3c3uh$25n58$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 5/31/24 07:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Fracking wastewater has 'shocking' amount of clean-energy mineral lithium >>>> 40% of US need for lithium could be covered by Pennsylvania's fracking byproduct.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/fracking-wastewater-has-shocking-amount-of-clean-energy-mineral-lithium/



    I'd think that extracting Li at a few hundred ppm concentration levels >>>from a complex mixture is likely to be expensive.

    Seems it already has been done.
    The greens already complain too:
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/29052024/pennsylvania-fracking-wastewater-lithium/

    quote:
    So far there is one Pennsylvania company, Eureka Resources in Lycoming County,
    working on lithium extraction from produced water.
    In 2023, the company announced it had successfully extracted “97 percent pure lithium carbonate”
    from wastewater and plans to incorporate the process at its three Pennsylvania facilities
    within the next two years.


    Yes, I saw that, but there are no details about the process, the
    composition of the raw feedstock and wastes, or the cost. I guess
    they only did this in a chemistry lab with small samples, not
    really representative of an industrial process.

    The Li concentration of raw feedstock from Chili is five times
    higher, and its composition is much simpler, making processing
    much cheaper.

    OK, I am no chemist so... maybe somebody here knows?
    Google found one company, but not much on the 'how'.

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