This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the
highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the
highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over
Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they
are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >interested?)
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over
Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they
are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>interested?)
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they
are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the
highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over
Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it
wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they
are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone
interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon
dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no
carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden
voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the
highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over
Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary.
I suspect they are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone interested?)
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and
dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than
admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>> tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over
Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they
will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>> wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they
are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone
interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>>tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper...
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>>wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Are you calling me a liberal?
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>>> tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>>> wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria.
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly
don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal
behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>>>> tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable
dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>>>> wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>>>> behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>>>>> tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>>>> dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>>>>> wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make >intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic
design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Nope. Not name calling. Just stating a fact.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
SED should be, and arguably was, a place where one could post
architectures and circuits and essentially publicly brainstorm, get
ideas from other people. Designing in public [1]. I've learned a lot
that way. And SED needs things to discuss instead of Climate Change
and Palestine. [2]
SED, and I guess usenet, is slowly dying. The nasty noise has driven
away most of the people who are really interested in electronics.
Can anyone recommend a better, more civil, moderated forum to discuss >electronic design?
1. [not the really good ones, obviously]
2. [opinions on such subjects are not testable. Circuits are.] 9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:58:59 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>>>>> behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>>>>> dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it
wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make >>intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic >>design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
There is "technician syndrome", which is when support people, like
techs and PCB layout and such, hate engineers because they think that
we somehow do magic that they can't understand. Always males, in my >experience.
In Silicon Valley, there is a whole tech culture, guys who dress like
cowboys and drive pickups and go to lunch at strip clubs and such.
They think engineers are effeminate wusses; they also resent that the >engineers seem to get the best women.
Some people with EE degrees have this same feeling.
One of the the hardest things to do in life is to get comfortable with
what your are.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
On 5/22/24 17:39, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:58:59 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000." >>>>>>>>>>>
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>>>>>> behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>>>>>> dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it
wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make
intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic
design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
There is "technician syndrome", which is when support people, like
techs and PCB layout and such, hate engineers because they think that
we somehow do magic that they can't understand. Always males, in my
experience.
In Silicon Valley, there is a whole tech culture, guys who dress like
cowboys and drive pickups and go to lunch at strip clubs and such.
They think engineers are effeminate wusses; they also resent that the
engineers seem to get the best women.
Some people with EE degrees have this same feeling.
One of the the hardest things to do in life is to get comfortable with
what your are.
Intelligent women look for guys with something between the ears, as >relationships are about trust and respect, in the end.
Getting the job done below is natural instinct, any fool can do that...
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:58:59 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters
were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>>>>> behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the
tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>>>>> dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it
wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make
intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic
design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
There is "technician syndrome", which is when support people, like
techs and PCB layout and such, hate engineers because they think that
we somehow do magic that they can't understand. Always males, in my experience.
In Silicon Valley, there is a whole tech culture, guys who dress like
cowboys and drive pickups and go to lunch at strip clubs and such.
They think engineers are effeminate wusses; they also resent that the engineers seem to get the best women.
Some people with EE degrees have this same feeling.
One of the the hardest things to do in life is to get comfortable with
what your are.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:14:46 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Are you calling me a liberal?
Nope. Not name calling. Just stating a fact.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
SED should be, and arguably was, a place where one could post
architectures and circuits and essentially publicly brainstorm, get
ideas from other people. Designing in public [1]. I've learned a lot
that way. And SED needs things to discuss instead of Climate Change
and Palestine. [2]
SED, and I guess usenet, is slowly dying. The nasty noise has driven
away most of the people who are really interested in electronics.
Can anyone recommend a better, more civil, moderated forum to discuss electronic design?
1. [not the really good ones, obviously]
2. [opinions on such subjects are not testable. Circuits are.]
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Please post a schematic or a Spice sim of something that you have
designed. That would be interesting to discuss.
Electronic design requires some native talent and education and
experience, but is in the end gated by emotions. Engineering schools
don't seem to have courses about that, and they should. In fact, the
academic establishment actively avoids addressing this dominant issue.
One classic book was The Psychology of Computer Programming by Gerald >Weinberg. It deals with essentially the same issues, smart people
behaving badly.
On 22/05/2024 11:58 pm, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
That's not name calling. John Larkin is a narcissist, and has been since
he started posting here.
John Fields was spelling this out more than ten years ago. It's
blindingly obvious, and always has been.
On Thu, 23 May 2024 14:05:15 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 22/05/2024 11:58 pm, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
That's not name calling. John Larkin is a narcissist, and has been since
he started posting here.
John Fields was spelling this out more than ten years ago. It's
blindingly obvious, and always has been.
Bill, don't forget Jim Thompson, krw etc. Not the nicest characters
but they all had the measure of Larkin.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 17:37:33 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Nope. Not name calling. Just stating a fact.
Is it narcissistic to post circuit ideas here for discussion?
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Please post a schematic or a Spice sim of something that you have
designed. That would be interesting to discuss.
Electronic design requires some native talent and education and
experience, but is in the end gated by emotions.
Engineering schools don't seem to have courses about that, and they should. In fact, the
academic establishment actively avoids addressing this dominant issue.
One classic book was The Psychology of Computer Programming by Gerald Weinberg. It deals with essentially the same issues, smart people
behaving badly.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>No.
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This is wonderful:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/05/20/joe-biden-democrats-green-transition-evs-energy-costs/
"Contrast Biden voter certainty with their knowledge about carbon >>>>>>>>>> dioxide. Nearly one in five Biden voters think there should be no >>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide at all because it’s a poison..."
"Forty four per cent of Trump voters and 26 per cent of Biden voters >>>>>>>>>> were able to correctly identify the approximate concentration of >>>>>>>>>> carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; nearly three quarters of Biden >>>>>>>>>> voters were wrong by a factor of between 100 and 1000."
Are we surprised ?. More like mass psychosis and death wish at the >>>>>>>>> highest levels of western governments. So infused with dogma and >>>>>>>>> dodgy science, they will bring down the whole house, rather than >>>>>>>>> admit they are wrong.
Yes. What social media has done is magnified the already tribal >>>>>>>> behavior of believing what everyone else apparently believes. Only the >>>>>>>> tribes are now billions of people worldwide. That's an unstable >>>>>>>> dynamic that results in all sorts of random delusions.
The other thing we're seeing is fear, depression, and despair, over >>>>>>>> Climate Change and other things. Lots of fear.
Still, control the cost and access to energy worldwide, and they >>>>>>>>> will control the world. Fascism, same shit, different wrapper... >>>>>>>>>
There is some of that, using climate as a power-mongering tool, but it >>>>>>>> wouldn't work if not powered by so much public fear and hysteria. >>>>>>>>
I wonder if such fear and innumeracy are hereditary. I suspect they >>>>>>>> are. If the lunatic greenies don't want to breed, and they mostly >>>>>>>> don't, the sane people will slowly pull ahead.
So as a long-term investment, buy Exxon stock.
(I have a mild variant on the Sallen-Key lowpass filter. Is anyone >>>>>>>> interested?)
Of course not. Electronics design would hurt your head.
Is that what happened to you?
I love designing electronics. It doesn't hurt a bit.
So do I, and have done since 1972.
Why do you post to SED if you don't like electronics?
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't
feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Please *do* show us how clever you are. We're always willing
to learn.
Jeroen Belleman
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic
design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:58:59 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
There is "technician syndrome", which is when support people, like
techs and PCB layout and such, hate engineers because they think that
we somehow do magic that they can't understand. Always males, in my experience.
In Silicon Valley, there is a whole tech culture, guys who dress like
cowboys and drive pickups and go to lunch at strip clubs and such.
They think engineers are effeminate wusses; they also resent that the engineers seem to get the best women.
Some people with EE degrees have this same feeling.
One of the the hardest things to do in life is to get comfortable with
what your are.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 23:36:05 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 5/22/24 17:39, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:58:59 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
Both boys and girls have brains and bodies.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult
presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first
with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club
rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst
offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your
own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Please post a schematic or a Spice sim of something that you have
designed. That would be interesting to discuss.
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult
presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first
with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club
rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst
offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your
own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first
with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club
rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your
own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your
own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't
expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Please post a schematic or a Spice sim of something that you have
designed. That would be interesting to discuss.
Electronic design requires some native talent and education and
experience, but is in the end gated by emotions. Engineering schools
don't seem to have courses about that, and they should. In fact, the
academic establishment actively avoids addressing this dominant issue.
One classic book was The Psychology of Computer Programming by Gerald >Weinberg. It deals with essentially the same issues, smart people
behaving badly.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Precisely. And I said so, but I didn't expect a barrage of abuse from
you and your fan club.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
There you go again making unfounded assumptions. Will you ever stop
your crude insults?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:42:41 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Precisely. And I said so, but I didn't expect a barrage of abuse from
you and your fan club.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an >>>oscilloscope in decades.
There you go again making unfounded assumptions. Will you ever stop
your crude insults?
What kind of scopes do you have now?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:42:41 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Precisely. And I said so, but I didn't expect a barrage of abuse from
you and your fan club.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an >>>oscilloscope in decades.
There you go again making unfounded assumptions. Will you ever stop
your crude insults?
What kind of scopes do you have now?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an >>>oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 10:42:36 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>So what? Who cares?
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>>but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread >>>>>you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately >>>>SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an >>>>oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>> people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult
presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>> rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>> offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>> own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't
expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>> people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>> presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>> rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>> offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>> own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>> but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>> expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
I first used one when I was 10 or 11, in my sister’s freshman physics lab. >(Physics 110 at UBC, probably fall 1970.)
I remember that it had delayed sweep , and wasn’t anything too fancy >otherwise, so it was probably a 522 or something like that. (The lab
session was about learning how to use the scope, which was pretty cool.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:31:52 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate BastardYour hypocrisy is breathtaking!
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>>> people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics. >>>>>>>>
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>>> completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>>> presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>>> rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>>> offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>>> own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>>> subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>>> but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread >>>>>> you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>>> expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately >>>>> SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
I first used one when I was 10 or 11, in my sisterÂ’s freshman physics lab. >> (Physics 110 at UBC, probably fall 1970.)
I remember that it had delayed sweep , and wasnÂ’t anything too fancy
otherwise, so it was probably a 522 or something like that. (The lab
session was about learning how to use the scope, which was pretty cool.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
There were a couple of plugins that did things that no scope does
today. The diffamp with switchable high and low bandwidth, and the
astounding differential comparators.
Nuvistors are pretty cool for some jobs, even today.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Nuvistors are pretty cool for some jobs, even today.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Out of curiosity, like what?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 19:49:13 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 10:42:36 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:43:42 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>So what? Who cares?
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate BastardYour hypocrisy is breathtaking!
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>>> people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics. >>>>>>>>
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>>> completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>>> presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>>> rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>>> offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>>> own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>>> subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>>> but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread >>>>>> you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>>> expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately >>>>> SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
If ever.
Joe Gwinn
I got my first scope, a Heathkit, when I was in junior high school. It
was I think 5 MHz, all ac-coupled, repetitive sweep, uncalibrated,
pretty primitive.
I later got a summer job in a university physics department and got
to use a Tektronix. I was amazed. That 535 cost as much as a Chevrolet
at the time.
What oscilloscopes do you have now?
Maybe you don't care about scopes. It's amazing what you can get from
Amazon now. A nice 100 MHz color scope with probes starting at $99.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult
presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club
rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst
offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your
own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't
expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>> people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question
honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult
presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>> with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club
rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst
offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>> own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the
subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED,
but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread
you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't
expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Precisely. And I said so, but I didn't expect a barrage of abuse from
you and your fan club.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately
SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an
oscilloscope in decades.
There you go again making unfounded assumptions. Will you ever stop
your crude insults?
On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:32:26 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 5/22/24 15:36, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:53:16 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:40:51 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 10:26:43 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 18:16:28 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2024 08:50:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:23:04 +0100, chrisq <devzero@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/21/24 04:15, john larkin wrote:
This IS an electronic design discussion group. It seems
counter-productive to discourage posting about circuits.
I note that the chronic insulters never post new circuits, or make intelligent comments about the few that are posted. Actual electronic
design seems to annoy them; one wonders why.
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Nuvistors are pretty cool for some jobs, even today.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Out of curiosity, like what?
On Fri, 24 May 2024 10:43:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:42:41 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 07:17:55 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:29:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 07:08:05 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>><pommyb@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard >>>>>>>><pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel
the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question >>>>>>>completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question >>>>>>>honestly but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult >>>>>>>presumably because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first >>>>>>>with your stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club >>>>>>>rounded on me for having the audacity to call out one of the worst >>>>>>>offenders for insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your >>>>>>>own book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Like active filters?
Do try not to be so stupid. As you well know I was referring to the >>>>>subject of the current thread being off-topic.
Of course active filters are a suitable topic for discussion in SED, >>>>>but when you include a stupid question in your own off topic thread >>>>>you should not throw around insults when you get an answer you don't >>>>>expect. Were you hoping for a "yes please" type of response?
Obviously. But nobody is interested.
Precisely. And I said so, but I didn't expect a barrage of abuse from
you and your fan club.
Are you here to discuss electronics, or to cackle and insult? Lately >>>>SED is full of clucking old hens who probably haven't owned an >>>>oscilloscope in decades.
There you go again making unfounded assumptions. Will you ever stop
your crude insults?
What kind of scopes do you have now?
Kindly answer my question.
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
Why does that matter to you so much?
I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral.
I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
If I open the FET book at a random page I find a circuit which may be usable as the basis of something I want to "design".
This isn't true of the physics book but that doesn't mean I don't find it to be interesting or useful knowledge.
Human psychology obviously plays a big part in electronics design as it does in electronics designers.
It does seem to be a trait of many (not all) electronics designers that if another designer isn't doing it the way they would do it
then they must be doing it wrong.
Would you be kind enough to give your opinion of John Larkin once per month instead of twice per day?
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't feel >>>>>>> the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
Why does that matter to you so much?
I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral.
I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
If I open the FET book at a random page I find a circuit which may be usable as the basis of something I want to "design".
This isn't true of the physics book but that doesn't mean I don't find it to be interesting or useful knowledge.
Human psychology obviously plays a big part in electronics design as it does in electronics designers.
It does seem to be a trait of many (not all) electronics designers that if another designer isn't doing it the way they would do it
then they must be doing it wrong.
Would you be kind enough to give your opinion of John Larkin once per month instead of twice per day?
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't >>>>>> feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question honestly
but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult presumably
because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first with your
stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club rounded on me
for having the audacity to call out one of the worst offenders for
insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your own
book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Your crude and unwarranted attack on bitrex was nasty and typical of
your disgraceful 'holier than thou' attitude.
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:...
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
Why does that matter to you so much?
I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral.
I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics
environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
I got into electronics while a I was doing a Ph.D. physical chemistry. Win Hill started a Ph.D. in chemical physics, but had better
advisors.
Getting things working is always important, but understanding the detail of what's going on can be vital to getting them to work
well.
When I was working at Cambridge Instruments (1982-1991) it was mostly on projects,but between projects I'd get stuck with "mods"
which was looking at what production was complaining about and reworking the circuit that they were complaining about to make it
better behaved. A lot of that was correcting the original designer's minor mistakes.
One of them wasn't all that minor - somebody has used a 741 in a place where it's pop-corn noise got amplified to the point where
the heaters in our GaAs single crystal puller were effectively pulse width modulated with a cycle time of about a minute or so.
Replacing the 741 with a marginally less ancient part with a pop-corn noise spec meant that the heaters ran continuously at
something like 30% of full capacity.
It made the operating environment a lot more peaceful and may have produced more-nearly-strain-free single crystal GaAs.
If I open the FET book at a random page I find a circuit which may be usable as the basis of something I want to "design".
This isn't true of the physics book but that doesn't mean I don't find it to be interesting or useful knowledge.
Human psychology obviously plays a big part in electronics design as it does in electronics designers.
It does seem to be a trait of many (not all) electronics designers that if another designer isn't doing it the way they would do
it
then they must be doing it wrong.
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Management liked him because he was quick. Production was less enthusiastic.
Would you be kind enough to give your opinion of John Larkin once per month instead of twice per day?
When he starts claiming to do electronic design once a month rather than twice a day.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't >>>>>>> feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question honestly
but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult presumably
because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first with your
stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club rounded on me
for having the audacity to call out one of the worst offenders for
insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your own
book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Your crude and unwarranted attack on bitrex was nasty and typical of
your disgraceful 'holier than thou' attitude.
So says just another Australian troll. Australia's biggest export: the >gobshite troll.
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:...
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
Why does that matter to you so much?
I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral.
I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics
environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
I got into electronics while a I was doing a Ph.D. physical chemistry. Win Hill started a Ph.D. in chemical physics, but had better
advisors.
Getting things working is always important, but understanding the detail of what's going on can be vital to getting them to work
well.
So both of these are needed if you want the best design.
On Sun, 26 May 2024 14:22:28 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:...
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
John Larkin doesn't seem to 'design" anything. He throws together the stuff he sells like every other tinkerer.
Why does that matter to you so much?
I have two books in front of me.
One is "Introduction to Solid State Physics, C. Kittel"
The other is "FET Circuits. Rufus P Turner"
If I open the physics book at a random page I find a contour integral. >>>> I wasn't bad at math and can handle contour integrals but it is also true that I grew up in a very practical electronics
environment
where getting things working was way more important than understanding every little detail of the theory of how they worked.
I got into electronics while a I was doing a Ph.D. physical chemistry. Win Hill started a Ph.D. in chemical physics, but had better
advisors.
Getting things working is always important, but understanding the detail of what's going on can be vital to getting them to work
well.
So both of these are needed if you want the best design.
Not really. Understanding at some level can help a lot, but it's not necessary. Besides, we don't actually understand what we're doing, all
the way down to the quantum mechanics.
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
So says just another Australian troll. Australia's biggest export: the gobshite troll.
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Management liked him because he was quick. Production was less enthusiastic.
Management likely expected that problems would be found which would have to be dealt with at a later time.
Would you be kind enough to give your opinion of John Larkin once per month instead of twice per day?
When he starts claiming to do electronic design once a month rather than twice a day.
I still don't see why it matters so much when the two of you are in different countries and, correct me if I'm wrong,
you've never used or tested any of JL's products.
You can't deny that JL has a successful business.
Whether his business would be more successful if he adopted different design techniques is not something I wish to go into
because it simply doesn't matter to me.
On Sun, 26 May 2024 17:55:17 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>>> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby
<news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
And Fosters Beer. Apparently they brew it for export only and won't
drink it themselves.
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Absolutely none of them. The timing gear he sells to the American
National Ignition Facility is based on a 1978 Hewlett Packard scheme,
written up in their journal, and it depends on starting up a 50MHz >free-running oscillator in a very predictable way.
Faster oscillators have less jitter, and while synchronising to a >continuously running faster oscillator twice may introduce extra jitter,
the net jitter on the time delay can be quite a bit less.
I had much the same problem in 1988 and went for a free-running 800MHz >oscillator.
It turns out that the first version of John's 50MHz oscillator had a
nasty - if small - sub-harmonic oscillation and he's finally found a
better version.
On Mon, 27 May 2024 15:05:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Absolutely none of them. The timing gear he sells to the American
National Ignition Facility is based on a 1978 Hewlett Packard scheme,
written up in their journal, and it depends on starting up a 50MHz
free-running oscillator in a very predictable way.
Totally wrong, as usual. The NIF timing system is synchronous at
155.52 MHz across over 200 timing modules, about 2000 "clients"
triggered every shot.
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/74f60yne8cdlr53n1x1la/TUAP069.pdf?rlkey=4lp86ca0ztfuh055qyxtok9lm&dl=0
Faster oscillators have less jitter, and while synchronising to a
continuously running faster oscillator twice may introduce extra jitter,
the net jitter on the time delay can be quite a bit less.
We deliver 1 ps timing resolution and a few ps RMS jitter to clients
across a facility the size of a football stadium.
We recently delivered our third system to NIF, the second generation
beamline amplitude modulators. This helped them achieve over-unity
fusion yield.
I had much the same problem in 1988 and went for a free-running 800MHz
oscillator.
It turns out that the first version of John's 50MHz oscillator had a
nasty - if small - sub-harmonic oscillation and he's finally found a
better version.
It did not.
On 27/05/2024 9:04 pm, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2024 15:05:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Absolutely none of them. The timing gear he sells to the American
National Ignition Facility is based on a 1978 Hewlett Packard scheme,
written up in their journal, and it depends on starting up a 50MHz
free-running oscillator in a very predictable way.
Totally wrong, as usual. The NIF timing system is synchronous at
155.52 MHz across over 200 timing modules, about 2000 "clients"
triggered every shot.
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/74f60yne8cdlr53n1x1la/TUAP069.pdf?rlkey=4lp86ca0ztfuh055qyxtok9lm&dl=0
That write-up doesn't mention the 1978 Hewlett-Packard Journal article
which you have talked about here.
It's a full bottle on the the 155.52 MHz timing scheme which is spread a >across the whole site, which provides the start signal for your delay >generators, but the individual delays generated don't depend on it at
all (although it presumably provides the reference timing for any >auto-calibration that you do)
Faster oscillators have less jitter, and while synchronising to a
continuously running faster oscillator twice may introduce extra jitter, >>> the net jitter on the time delay can be quite a bit less.
We deliver 1 ps timing resolution and a few ps RMS jitter to clients
across a facility the size of a football stadium.
Perhaps, but you clearly don't understand what you are actually doing, >otherwise you wouldn't be claiming that I was totally wrong, or invoking >their optically distributed master clock as if were part of your system.
We recently delivered our third system to NIF, the second generation
beamline amplitude modulators. This helped them achieve over-unity
fusion yield.
Not as much as a better designed system would have.
I had much the same problem in 1988 and went for a free-running 800MHz
oscillator.
It turns out that the first version of John's 50MHz oscillator had a
nasty - if small - sub-harmonic oscillation and he's finally found a
better version.
It did not.
You recently told Phil Hobbs here that something like it did .. in the
"fast discrete PHEMT one-shot thread".
"Tell me about that. My triggered 50 MHz colpitts oscillator squegged
at around 4 GHz. Tons of jitter.
I designed a new osc using a BUF602 and it's great."
Finding that prompted me to find his Murata 5GHz ferrite bead post,
which I'd been kicking myself for not writing into my day-book.
I'm sure that you are going to tell us that this referred to a
completely different, much more recent project, but I suspect that it
was recycling the old idea and better test gear showed up an old problem.
On Sun, 26 May 2024 17:55:17 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom ><cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>>>wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't >>>>>>>> feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question honestly
but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult presumably
because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first with your
stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club rounded on me
for having the audacity to call out one of the worst offenders for
insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your own >>> book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Your crude and unwarranted attack on bitrex was nasty and typical of
your disgraceful 'holier than thou' attitude.
So says just another Australian troll. Australia's biggest export: the >>gobshite troll.
And Fosters Beer. Apparently they brew it for export only and won't
drink it themselves.
I still don't see why it matters so much when the two of you are in
different countries and, correct me if I'm wrong,
you've never used or tested any of JL's products.
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:Wrong as usual, stupid.
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't >>>>>>> feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless
people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question honestly
but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult presumably
because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first with your
stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club rounded on me
for having the audacity to call out one of the worst offenders for
insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your own
book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Your crude and unwarranted attack on bitrex was nasty and typical of
your disgraceful 'holier than thou' attitude.
So says just another Australian troll.
gobshite troll.
On Sun, 26 May 2024 14:26:48 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2024 17:55:17 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >><cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:33:11 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:52:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> >>>>>wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 07:54:30 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:13 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby >>>>>>><news@spockmail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 14:36:00 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
<snip>
Who says I don't? Unlike you, an odious little narcissist, I don't >>>>>>>>> feel the need to show everyone here how clever I am.
Spoken like a true liberal.
When things don't go your way... start name calling.
Exactly. Cheap insults are, well, cheap.
Indeed.
9djf3jlovr2bmpkn03e18237njtcorg9rj@4ax.com
That was, in my opinion, a reasonable observation. Nasty humorless >>>>>people DO usually design nasty electronics. Or no electronics.
Your hypocrisy is breathtaking!
You started this off topic thread in which you posed a question
completely unrelated to the subject. I answered your question honestly >>>> but your narcissism prompted you to take it as an insult presumably
because I hadn't massaged your ego. You leapt in feet first with your
stock insult and when I retaliated you and your fan club rounded on me >>>> for having the audacity to call out one of the worst offenders for
insults.
If you want to see SED cleaned up you should take a leaf out of your own >>>> book and stop indulging in off topic rubbish.
Your crude and unwarranted attack on bitrex was nasty and typical of
your disgraceful 'holier than thou' attitude.
So says just another Australian troll. Australia's biggest export: the >>>gobshite troll.
And Fosters Beer. Apparently they brew it for export only and won't
drink it themselves.
Just like American "beer", Fosters is dog piss.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 01:05:18 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 9:04 pm, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2024 15:05:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Absolutely none of them. The timing gear he sells to the American
National Ignition Facility is based on a 1978 Hewlett Packard scheme,
written up in their journal, and it depends on starting up a 50MHz
free-running oscillator in a very predictable way.
Totally wrong, as usual. The NIF timing system is synchronous at
155.52 MHz across over 200 timing modules, about 2000 "clients"
triggered every shot.
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/74f60yne8cdlr53n1x1la/TUAP069.pdf?rlkey=4lp86ca0ztfuh055qyxtok9lm&dl=0
That write-up doesn't mention the 1978 Hewlett-Packard Journal article
which you have talked about here.
It's a full bottle on the the 155.52 MHz timing scheme which is spread a
across the whole site, which provides the start signal for your delay
generators, but the individual delays generated don't depend on it at
all (although it presumably provides the reference timing for any
auto-calibration that you do)
You know nothing about this and are, as usual, all wrong. ALL the
module timing is based on the 155.52 MHz clock, which is generated by
a local PLL that is locked to the OC3 optical data stream.
Faster oscillators have less jitter, and while synchronising to a
continuously running faster oscillator twice may introduce extra jitter, >>>> the net jitter on the time delay can be quite a bit less.
We deliver 1 ps timing resolution and a few ps RMS jitter to clients
across a facility the size of a football stadium.
Perhaps, but you clearly don't understand what you are actually doing,
otherwise you wouldn't be claiming that I was totally wrong, or invoking
their optically distributed master clock as if were part of your system.
Can you see the APC connector and the fiber?
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
The VCXO of the PLL is the shiny cube. It's mounted on tiny
custom-made springs to isolate it from shocks from un-mating the SMB connectors.
Here's the PLL
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cobd3t4eorcsgrt/22S880D.pdf?raw=1
It uses a Dflop bang-bang ECL phase detector. I sure you don't
approve.
We originally uses a Vectron OC3 optical receiver module. It used a
SAW filter to recover the clock and had very low time shift vs optical
power. But they quit making it as OC3 fell out of fashion so I had to
design a drop-in replacement. I'll use an SFP module if we do this
again.
Do I have to give the awards back?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rb0fasr1flvvk51/NIF_Award.jpg?raw=1
We recently delivered our third system to NIF, the second generation
beamline amplitude modulators. This helped them achieve over-unity
fusion yield.
Not as much as a better designed system would have.
I had much the same problem in 1988 and went for a free-running 800MHz >>>> oscillator.
It turns out that the first version of John's 50MHz oscillator had a
nasty - if small - sub-harmonic oscillation and he's finally found a
better version.
It did not.
You recently told Phil Hobbs here that something like it did .. in the
"fast discrete PHEMT one-shot thread".
Different project, a GHz squegg and not a sub-harmonic oscillation.
The new oscillator fixes that and has superb jitter vs time open-loop,
so the diversion was well worth it. It's so good that I might do a
cheaper DDG based on the open-loop triggered oscillator.
"Tell me about that. My triggered 50 MHz colpitts oscillator squegged
at around 4 GHz. Tons of jitter.
I designed a new osc using a BUF602 and it's great."
Finding that prompted me to find his Murata 5GHz ferrite bead post,
which I'd been kicking myself for not writing into my day-book.
I'm sure that you are going to tell us that this referred to a
completely different, much more recent project, but I suspect that it
was recycling the old idea and better test gear showed up an old problem.
Wrong. It's sad that you are driven by vanity and hatred and not
honest interest in electronics.
On 28/05/2024 1:54 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 01:05:18 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 9:04 pm, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2024 15:05:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
It usually takes a while to work out why they did it that way, and it's pretty much essential to spend that time before you start
fiddling with the circuit. That wasn't true of the guy who'd put in the 741. He was very much in the John Larkin "if it sort of
works, ship it" camp.
Which of John Larkin's products have you purchased and tested and what improvement
do you think should have been made before it was shipped?
Absolutely none of them. The timing gear he sells to the American
National Ignition Facility is based on a 1978 Hewlett Packard scheme, >>>>> written up in their journal, and it depends on starting up a 50MHz
free-running oscillator in a very predictable way.
Totally wrong, as usual. The NIF timing system is synchronous at
155.52 MHz across over 200 timing modules, about 2000 "clients"
triggered every shot.
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/74f60yne8cdlr53n1x1la/TUAP069.pdf?rlkey=4lp86ca0ztfuh055qyxtok9lm&dl=0
That write-up doesn't mention the 1978 Hewlett-Packard Journal article
which you have talked about here.
It's a full bottle on the the 155.52 MHz timing scheme which is spread a >>> across the whole site, which provides the start signal for your delay
generators, but the individual delays generated don't depend on it at
all (although it presumably provides the reference timing for any
auto-calibration that you do)
You know nothing about this and are, as usual, all wrong. ALL the
module timing is based on the 155.52 MHz clock, which is generated by
a local PLL that is locked to the OC3 optical data stream.
All the module timing may depend on the 155.52MHz master clock, but the >connection between edges on that clock and the signal the module puts
out to fire the laser is decidedly indirect.
If you divided up the gaps between the 155.52MHz edges to generate your
1psec accurate laser driving pulses you'd be able to claim a direct >connection.
155.52MHz is a bit slow for a master clock in such a system.
Faster oscillators have less jitter, and while synchronising to a
continuously running faster oscillator twice may introduce extra jitter, >>>>> the net jitter on the time delay can be quite a bit less.
We deliver 1 ps timing resolution and a few ps RMS jitter to clients
across a facility the size of a football stadium.
Perhaps, but you clearly don't understand what you are actually doing,
otherwise you wouldn't be claiming that I was totally wrong, or invoking >>> their optically distributed master clock as if were part of your system.
Can you see the APC connector and the fiber?
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/V880
The VCXO of the PLL is the shiny cube. It's mounted on tiny
custom-made springs to isolate it from shocks from un-mating the SMB
connectors.
Here's the PLL
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cobd3t4eorcsgrt/22S880D.pdf?raw=1
It uses a Dflop bang-bang ECL phase detector. I sure you don't
approve.
The "circuit diagram" shows U11 as square block labelled ECL/VCO.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 18:50:50 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 28/05/2024 1:54 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 01:05:18 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 27/05/2024 9:04 pm, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2024 15:05:14 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 27/05/2024 4:22 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2uhs7$39s6m$1@dont-email.me...
On 26/05/2024 4:38 am, Edward Rawde wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v2na16$1nvei$1@dont-email.me...
On 23/05/2024 3:52 am, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2024 18:10:58 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@aol.com> wrote:
It uses a Dflop bang-bang ECL phase detector. I sure you don't
approve.
The "circuit diagram" shows U11 as square block labelled ECL/VCO.
You have such a compulsion to be nasty that you don't even mind
looking silly.
U1 is a purchased ECL VCTCXO. A component on the "circuit diagram."
What I posted is actually sheet 2 of the PADS schematic whose netlist
created the physical PC board and its BOM. Sheet 1 of that 18 sheet schematic is the block diagram. Our schematics always start with a
sheet-1 title sheet: block diagram, table of contents, filled-out
title block and, until formally released, progress notes.
(People rarely post schematics to SED.)
You actually don't know or care much about electronics, so there's no
point talking to you.
looking silly."
On Sun, 26 May 2024 14:22:28 -0400, Edward Rawde wrote:
I still don't see why it matters so much when the two of you are in
different countries and, correct me if I'm wrong,
you've never used or tested any of JL's products.
I'll tell you exactly why Bill has a bug up his arse about John. Many,
many years ago, Bill went to John for a job. Bill is admittedly pretty
good at electronics, but he also has a *terrible* attitude problem and prefers to spend as much time as possible thumbing through discredited Marxist theory (like as if it's worth anyone's time to read that crap).
Fortunately, John saw through Bill at the last moment and declined to hire him. Bill's never forgiven John for that bullet-dodging decision.
On 28/05/2024 3:01 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2024 14:22:28 -0400, Edward Rawde wrote:
I still don't see why it matters so much when the two of you are in
different countries and, correct me if I'm wrong,
you've never used or tested any of JL's products.
I'll tell you exactly why Bill has a bug up his arse about John. Many,
many years ago, Bill went to John for a job. Bill is admittedly pretty
good at electronics, but he also has a *terrible* attitude problem and
prefers to spend as much time as possible thumbing through discredited
Marxist theory (like as if it's worth anyone's time to read that crap).
This is about as "exact" as the rest of Cursitor Doom's regular nonsense.
The people I've worked for and with don't seem to think that I've got an attitude problem, and the closest I've got reading
"Marxist Theory" are books like "Capital in the 21st Century" and "the Spirit Level".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)
This is one more of Cursitor Doom's fatuous inventions.
Fortunately, John saw through Bill at the last moment and declined to hire >> him. Bill's never forgiven John for that bullet-dodging decision.
On the contrary what John did to get up my nose was to copy my private e-mail - which wasn't applying for a job but responding to
an open request by John on s.e.d. that had asked for sub-contract assistance - to Jim Thompson, who promptly posted a boast on
s.e.d. that he'd saved John from making the terrible mistake of having anything to do with me.
I certainly wasn't going to more to California to take up a job with John, but I had done some remote consulting, and it had -
sort of - worked.
Giving Jim Thompson anything to gloat about hadn't been part of the plan, and my already not-all-that-positive opinion of John
became rather more negative.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:v34u0t$lhm8$1@dont-email.me...
On 28/05/2024 3:01 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2024 14:22:28 -0400, Edward Rawde wrote:
I still don't see why it matters so much when the two of you are in
different countries and, correct me if I'm wrong,
you've never used or tested any of JL's products.
I'll tell you exactly why Bill has a bug up his arse about John. Many,
many years ago, Bill went to John for a job. Bill is admittedly pretty
good at electronics, but he also has a *terrible* attitude problem and
prefers to spend as much time as possible thumbing through discredited
Marxist theory (like as if it's worth anyone's time to read that crap).
This is about as "exact" as the rest of Cursitor Doom's regular nonsense.
The people I've worked for and with don't seem to think that I've got an attitude problem, and the closest I've got reading
"Marxist Theory" are books like "Capital in the 21st Century" and "the Spirit Level".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)
This is one more of Cursitor Doom's fatuous inventions.
Fortunately, John saw through Bill at the last moment and declined to hire >>> him. Bill's never forgiven John for that bullet-dodging decision.
On the contrary what John did to get up my nose was to copy my private e-mail - which wasn't applying for a job but responding to
an open request by John on s.e.d. that had asked for sub-contract assistance - to Jim Thompson, who promptly posted a boast on
s.e.d. that he'd saved John from making the terrible mistake of having anything to do with me.
Well you didn't seem to like Jim Thompson very much either as I remember.
This thread would likely be three times bigger if JT were still around.
I've had it happen to me (nothing to do with anything here) that someone forwarded an email in a context different from what I
intended.
Anyway I think it's now clear why you don't like JL and that it's never going to change so I'll leave it there.
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