On 5/5/2024 2:21 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 May 2024 11:53:49 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Israel must destroy Hamas, partly as a demonstration that attacking >>>>>> Israel doesn't pay. It's ugly but arguably necessary.
Making monkey noises at black people they outnumber 10 to 1 is
definitely more the Trump Party's speed than doing anything of substance >>> against globalism, it's finally all they really want to do.
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/04/us/mississippi-campus-protest-gaza-black-student/index.html>
You're repulsive. I bet your schematics are repulsive too. Those
actually go together. Nasty people design nasty electronics.
The kids understand the situation better than the adults do, they grasp intuitively that 80,000+ lives gone in revenge for ~1300 is repulsive,
and that the analogies with respect to fighting against Nazi Germany
don't hold water. Nazi Germany was one of the wealthiest and mightiest
states on Earth in 1939.
and that the analogies with respect to fighting against Nazi Germany
don't hold water. Nazi Germany was one of the wealthiest and mightiest
states on Earth in 1939.
Where did you get that? Germany was one of the worst victims of the
worldwide economic crisis as the new owners after WW1 withdrew their
funds to cover their own butt. And the people voted for AH in 1933
because of that. It could only come better. They assumed. In a land
with just toy military. No air force, no navy.
6 years later, the Nazis had solved that military thing, but not the
wealth issue. Those who had paid for a Volkswagen (VW Beetle) in
advance found out it had transmogrified into a Jeep lookalike,
and it was not theirs.
I wonder how brain damaged someone like Trump must be to force
military buildup in other states. With capabilities comes greed
to use them. As you can see, 6 years made quite a difference.
And no, there is no protection. Just the expectation that Europe
stays Coca-Cola land. And some extra class aircraft carriers like
Ramstein. I'm unconfortably close to that.
Gerhard.
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for electronics
design discussions.
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for electronics
design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for electronics
design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
designs?
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for electronics >>>> design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
designs?
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this
group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >becomes off-topic and deprecated.
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
electronics design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
designs?
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
It was declining anyhow.
I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask them
to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage
across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw 23 computer screens and one oscilloscope.
If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best.
It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long to
find out if it does.
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
electronics design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
designs?
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
It was declining anyhow.
I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 years >and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask them
to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage
across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??
I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw 23
computer screens and one oscilloscope.
Oh dear.
If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best.
It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long to
find out if it does.
My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this
group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI,
this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace and
I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump doesn't >win come November.
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics >>>>> designs?
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
electronics design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>>>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
It was declining anyhow.
I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30
years and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask
them to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage
across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??
Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't remember
that equation."
A fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project.
I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter follower.
Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that!
I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw
23 computer screens and one oscilloscope.
Oh dear.
If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best.
It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long
to find out if it does.
My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this >>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI, >>this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace
and I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump >>doesn't win come November.
There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right
fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less tribalism and a little common sense.
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 10:39:06 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics >>>>>> designs?
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
electronics design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>>>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>>>>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
It was declining anyhow.
I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 >>>years and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask
them to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage >>>> across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??
Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't remember
that equation."
A fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project.
I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter follower.
Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that!
I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw
23 computer screens and one oscilloscope.
Oh dear.
If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best. >>>>
It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long
to find out if it does.
My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this >>>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI, >>>this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace >>>and I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump >>>doesn't win come November.
There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right
fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less
tribalism and a little common sense.
That's definitely *not* the vibe I'm sensing from my present perspective >outside of the country.
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:42:43 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 10:39:06 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of
Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
electronics design discussions.
Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
electronics designs?
My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, >>>>>>this group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic >>>>>>design becomes off-topic and deprecated.
It was declining anyhow.
I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 >>>>years and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they
solder. I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic
when I ask them to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the
voltage across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??
Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't
remember that equation."
A fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project.
I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter
follower.
Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that!
I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw >>>>> 23 computer screens and one oscilloscope.
Oh dear.
If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the
best.
It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like >>>>> about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long >>>>> to find out if it does.
My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this >>>>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. >>>>AISI,
this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace >>>>and I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump >>>>doesn't win come November.
There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right
fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less
tribalism and a little common sense.
That's definitely *not* the vibe I'm sensing from my present perspective >>outside of the country.
Newspapers and web sites and political parties make money off taking
extreme positions. The dynamics pushes them away from center. The New
York Times doesn't report any more, they preach and screech.
In real life, the people I meet here are friendly and thoughtful and not
very concerned with politics.
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