• OT: Cells may possess hidden communication system

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 05:42:55 2024
    Cells may possess hidden communication system
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160454.htm
    New research finds ion gradients across membranes form an information network for rapid cellular decision-making independent of DNA
    Date:
    April 24, 2024
    Source:
    H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute

    Seems logical to me...

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 07:17:17 2024
    On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 05:42:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Cells may possess hidden communication system
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160454.htm
    New research finds ion gradients across membranes form an information network for rapid cellular decision-making independent of DNA
    Date:
    April 24, 2024
    Source:
    H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute

    Seems logical to me...


    "For decades, scientists have viewed DNA as the sole source of
    cellular information."

    Well, some of the dumber ones did. Cellular function studies have a
    long and honored history of stupidity.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sat Apr 27 01:52:25 2024
    On 27/04/2024 12:17 am, John Larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 05:42:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Cells may possess hidden communication system
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160454.htm
    New research finds ion gradients across membranes form an information network for rapid cellular decision-making independent of DNA
    Date:
    April 24, 2024
    Source:
    H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute

    Seems logical to me...

    "For decades, scientists have viewed DNA as the sole source of
    cellular information."

    Well, some of the dumber ones did. Cellular function studies have a
    long and honored history of stupidity.

    Nerve cells communicate with with one another by fiddling local
    potassium to sodium ion ratios. It changes the voltage difference across
    the cell-to-cell junctions. The signals can propagate fairly fast.

    https://nba.uth.tmc.edu/neuroscience/m/s1/chapter03.html

    "In fact, the propagation velocity of the action potentials in nerves
    can vary from 100 meters per second (580 miles per hour) to less than a
    tenth of a meter per second (0.22 miles per hour)."

    DNA doesn't come into it (or at least not directly).

    Science daily was suggesting that regular cells use a similar sort of
    system for communicating with their near neighbours. Why this would be a "hidden communication system" escapes me. If nobody looked for it, it
    wouldn't have to be "hidden" to be unknown.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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