On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:05:28 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 3/30/24 04:37, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:33:36 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:15:08 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>>>
Our Constition is based on Judeao-Christian principles but is not
specifically religious.
Really?
Exactly what biblical principles is the Constitution based on?
Swill
The Ten Commandments was a good start.
Far too religious. I think one simple rule suffices: Don't
do to others what you wouldn't want them to do to you.
Jeroen Belleman
Earthlings were one tribal competitors, subsitance level, fighting and >killing to defend their turf and their local gene pool. Some part of
the world took a path to a more peaceful and prosperous society, with >writing, science, laws, cows, antibiotics and electronics. The path to
the developed world included greek philosophy, roman government, >judeao-christian rules, the reformation and the enlightenment,
constitutional government, and general happiness.
I think that the average feelings of a population make a peaceful
society possible. Some places obviously don't have that. Maybe it's
genetic.
The Ten Commandments was a good start.
Show me the Ten Commandments in the US Constitution.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/04/01/athiest-richard-dawkins-says-he-would-choose-christianity-over-islam-every-single-time/
the atheist signers of the constitution. I wonder if Dawkins is
getting religious in his final years.
Western religions have converged to peaceful co-existence. Muslim
factions sure haven't.
"Christianity is the religion of life, and Islam is the religion of
death."
Am 01.04.24 um 22:05 schrieb john larkin:
The Ten Commandments was a good start.
I'm missing the 11th, I could probably find more:
Thou shalt not have slaves!
Show me the Ten Commandments in the US Constitution.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/04/01/athiest-richard-dawkins-says-he-would-choose-christianity-over-islam-every-single-time/
Dawkins, an avid atheist, prefers Christian principles, as did some of
the atheist signers of the constitution. I wonder if Dawkins is
getting religious in his final years.
No, he just sorts religions by evilness.
Western religions have converged to peaceful co-existence. Muslim
factions sure haven't.
"Christianity is the religion of life, and Islam is the religion of
death."
The last witch burnt on the stake in Europe was Anna Göldi from
Switzerland in 1782, 5 years earlier than your constitution.
And the US had 12 years of peace since then, so much for the praise
of peaceful coexistence.
When I was on Iceland with the motorbike, I stumbled across this >tombstone/memorial of a Catholic Bishop who was killed together
with his two sons (!) because he insisted in staying catholic
and not turning protestant. Same religion, wrong flavour is enough.
It's not that our clerics here are any better. It's just that
there is now some social pressure not to kill people.
< >https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/36066682984/in/dateposted-public/
>
The 2 sons of the bishop did not make it on the memorial as
living proof of their fathers sins.
Or really, no longer living proof.
Or read about the crusade against the Albigenses in southern
France with the killings of the towns of Béziers & Carcasonne.
Caedite eos! Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius!
Latin: Kill them all! The Lord will know those on His side!
(Attribute translation errors to me.)
Nothing has killed more people than religion except maybe
smallpox and the plague.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 01:14:41 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
Am 01.04.24 um 22:05 schrieb john larkin:
Most people once lived in tribes of around 150 people. Around 25% of
males died in tribal warfare.
Am 02.04.24 um 16:13 schrieb Siri Cruise:
Do atheists have a 'particular religious orientation'?
Atheismn is a religious orientation like abstinence is a sex practice.
Do atheists have a 'particular religious orientation'?
On 4/2/24 16:44, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 02.04.24 um 16:13 schrieb Siri Cruise:
Do atheists have a 'particular religious orientation'?
Atheismn is a religious orientation like abstinence is a sex practice.
You make it sound as if atheists deny themselves pleasure. That is
completely and utterly false. Rather, it's religion that preaches
that pleasure is sinful and that abstinence is a condition to attain >salvation and eternal bliss.
Atheists tend to be individualists, making up their own minds,
That
makes it hard to organize them into a coherent movement. Most atheists
do not care what other people think.
Jeroen Belleman
Am 02.04.24 um 16:13 schrieb Siri Cruise:
Do atheists have a 'particular religious orientation'?
Atheismn is a religious orientation like abstinence is a sex practice.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:24:30 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 4/2/24 16:44, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 02.04.24 um 16:13 schrieb Siri Cruise:
Do atheists have a 'particular religious orientation'?
Atheismn is a religious orientation like abstinence is a sex practice.
You make it sound as if atheists deny themselves pleasure. That is
completely and utterly false. Rather, it's religion that preaches
that pleasure is sinful and that abstinence is a condition to attain
salvation and eternal bliss.
Religious people have lots of fun. I think that lots of church-goers
are there for the social interaction (and the food!) (and meeting
mates!) as much as for the spiritual part.
One thing that religion preaches is that a lot of messing around leads
to STDs. Antibiotics and birth control are modern inventions. That ole
time religion was protective, so was selected.
Atheists tend to be individualists, making up their own minds,
Not much in my experience. They are mostly nasty.
That
makes it hard to organize them into a coherent movement. Most atheists
do not care what other people think.
Right. Anti-social.
On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do >>>>>>> here, and I'm extremely talented at it.
I seem to have missed that.
You miss everything of importance.
What is your occupation?
That's not important here.
Thanks for the confirmation.
The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
electronics.
I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do
here, and I'm extremely talented at it.
I seem to have missed that.
You miss everything of importance.
What is your occupation?
That's not important here.
Thanks for the confirmation.
The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in electronics.
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do
here,
and I'm extremely talented at it.
I seem to have missed that.
You miss everything of importance.
What is your occupation?
That's not important here.
Thanks for the confirmation.
The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
electronics.
I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 4/04/2024 6:40 am, Sn!pe wrote:
John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
The Guardian is objective and always true. I'm impressed.
Of course that's correct, provided you are content with left-wing truth. >>>
The Guardian doesn't report "left wing truth". It aims for factual
accuracy. My experience was that the UK right-wing press ignored
inconvenient facts, and The Guardian didn't.
I disagree; obviously YMMV.
My take on this is that one should keep
one's critical faculties very firmly engaged when reading anything
published by any organisation that expects to make money from it
or that has a political agenda.
I think there is little to be gained by arguing the toss on this so
please feel free to have the last word.
It you want "left wing truth", read the Morning Star (once the Daily
Worker).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Star_(British_newspaper)
Good grief, no, thank you very much.
On 5/04/2024 10:40 am, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do >>>>>>>> here, and I'm extremely talented at it.
I seem to have missed that.
You miss everything of importance.
What is your occupation?
That's not important here.
Thanks for the confirmation.
The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
electronics.
I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.
Being rude about John Larkin is shooting fish in a barrel, but he does >advance a lot of popular fallacies, and gives the rest of us the chance
to be rude about them.
On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:12:11 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 5/04/2024 10:40 am, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in >>>>> electronics.
I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.
Being rude about John Larkin is shooting fish in a barrel, but he does
advance a lot of popular fallacies, and gives the rest of us the chance
to be rude about them.
Stupid insults only advertise the stupidity of the author. You savor
every "chance to be rude."
We could have interesting conversations, and even professional
interaction, if you didn't have such a compulsion to insult.
We have an interesting magnetics problem that we were just brainstorming.
On 4/5/24 1:17 AM, Richard Clayton Wieber wrote:
On 4/2/2024 8:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 30/03/2024 3:40 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/03/2024 3:22 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/03/2024 11:25 am, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:24:31 -0400, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Show us a cartel that existed for any long length of time without
some form of government backing.
A cartel is a kind of government and its members have a shared
interest in controlling their market and keeping outsiders from
exploiting it.
A cartel is not a kind of government.
A cartel most certainly *is* a kind of government,
No it's not.
Bill Sloman wrote:
Nature is built up of discrete atoms, so natural processes are
demonstrably all discontinuous. Atoms are numerous enough that this
rarely matters, but it can. Einstein's explanation of Brownian motion
is an example where it did.
Have you finished your TM that perfectly mimics any Brownian motion?
On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 11:13:21 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
On 2024-04-04, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 22:52:46 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
On 2024-03-30, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
Musk isn't an inventor. That's a fact, not sour grapes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
Oh he invents stuff all the time, in that he tells plenty of lies.
Particualrly to his fans.
He made the first practical electric car and sells them in volume.
But he didn't invent it. He puchased the title of "Co-Founder" at the
already existing Tesla Motor Company some 5 years in.
Space-x has crushed the big rocket companies. Landing and reusing
rockets is amazing.
His LEO comm satellite constellation is unique too.
He has a lot of money, he buys a lot of toys. This seems to impress
week willed women, and you.
What impresses me is ideas.
Even bad ideas are better than no ideas.
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:53:45 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 10/04/2024 12:19 pm, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 16:35:55 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 9/04/2024 11:12 am, GLOBUS wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/04/2024 1:15 pm, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 15:16:38 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 7/04/2024 2:26 am, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 12:43:07 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
On 2024-04-02, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Jack Carlson wrote:
<snip>
Backpfeifengesicht!"Some philosophers argue that natural rights do not exist and that >>>>>> legal rights are the only rights; for instance, Jeremy Bentham called >>>>>> natural rights 'simple nonsense."
I'm also sympathetic to that point of view.
Me too. By the way, as per Rechtsverordnung 392740-2357, your legal right >>>>> to exist has been revoked. Report to Vernichtungskammer 5-A immediately! >>>
Don't be silly, and being silly in German doesn't make it any less silly. >>>But it does make it more fun!
Implicit references to the gas chambers aren't any kind of fun.
Ah ... didn't catch that. 'swhat I get for not looking up "Vernichtungskammer" before I
posted.
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