• OT: Where will it go?

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 05:50:48 2024
    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 12:22:32 2024
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 05:50:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

    Read Huxley much?

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Mar 13 00:37:14 2024
    On 12/03/2024 11:22 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 05:50:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

    Read Huxley much?

    Huxley's "Brave New World" didn't talk about that kind of reproductive engineering at all. The lower classes were deliberated messed up on the
    basis that it would have made them more biddable wage slaves, which is nonsense.

    Robert Plombin's "Blueprint"

    https://www.penguin.com.au/books/blueprint-9780141984261

    reflects a better informed opinion of what we need to know to produce
    people who will do well in specific roles, but the main message is that
    we don't know nearly enough to have any hope of doing it.

    We don't know enough about how people work to have any idea how a
    difference in a single nucleotide in our three billion nucleotide genome affects our capacities, and we do know that they differ at about a
    million sites in genome that are entirely human.

    Anything gross enough to be easily measured - like years in education -
    turns out to slightly influenced by thousand of single genetic
    polymorphism, none with much of an effect.

    The research reported wasn't aimed at doing anything of the kind -
    merely at more ways of getting more or less viable zygotes for people
    who can't produce egg and sperm cells in the usual way.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Tue Mar 12 15:51:35 2024
    On a sunny day (Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:22:32 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <t7i0vilp7hotbe2alnse53ij9onl62jb5s@4ax.com>:

    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 05:50:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically
    related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

    Read Huxley much?

    Did you mean Aldous Huxley?
    Never read about him or things he wrote, so google gave me his link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    interesting, seems he got addicted in the end, wanted LSD on his deathbed?
    but I do recognize some things in his thinking..
    Went trough similar things, never got addicted though always rationalize.
    Maybe my will is too strong.
    My father used to say: Where there is a will there is a way.
    To go full circle to the skin and egg thing... may even become the normal
    But human + chicken egg? LOL Who knows

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 21:19:57 2024
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:51:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:22:32 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom ><cd@notformail.com> wrote in <t7i0vilp7hotbe2alnse53ij9onl62jb5s@4ax.com>:

    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 05:50:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically
    related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

    Read Huxley much?

    Did you mean Aldous Huxley?
    Never read about him or things he wrote, so google gave me his link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    interesting, seems he got addicted in the end, wanted LSD on his deathbed?

    I don't believe it's possible to become addicted to LSD. Huxley wanted
    it once again on his deathbed to make a horrible demise into something
    special. Just for old times sake.

    but I do recognize some things in his thinking..
    Went trough similar things, never got addicted though always rationalize. >Maybe my will is too strong.
    My father used to say: Where there is a will there is a way.
    To go full circle to the skin and egg thing... may even become the normal
    But human + chicken egg? LOL Who knows

    Huxley's work was *so* much more than The Doors of Perception. I
    suggest you read Brave New World, then you'll see the relevance of my
    initial comment. It's all about that future.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Mar 13 13:53:57 2024
    On 13/03/2024 8:19 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:51:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:22:32 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom >> <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <t7i0vilp7hotbe2alnse53ij9onl62jb5s@4ax.com>: >>
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 05:50:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Research sheds light on new strategy to treat infertility
    OHSU research advances technique to turn a skin cell into an egg; could help same-sex couples, others have children genetically
    related to both parents
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308142739.htm

    Now where will it go?

    Read Huxley much?

    Did you mean Aldous Huxley?
    Never read about him or things he wrote, so google gave me his link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    interesting, seems he got addicted in the end, wanted LSD on his deathbed?

    I don't believe it's possible to become addicted to LSD. Huxley wanted
    it once again on his deathbed to make a horrible demise into something special. Just for old times sake.

    but I do recognize some things in his thinking..
    Went trough similar things, never got addicted though always rationalize.
    Maybe my will is too strong
    My father used to say: Where there is a will there is a way.
    To go full circle to the skin and egg thing... may even become the normal
    But human + chicken egg? LOL Who knows.

    Anybody with more sense than Jan Panteltje - most people.

    Huxley's work was *so* much more than The Doors of Perception. I
    suggest you read Brave New World, then you'll see the relevance of my
    initial comment. It's all about that future.

    It's not. "Brave New World" is a future imagined in 1932 by a clever man
    who didn't know all that much about anything specific. As prophecy it is risible.


    There were quite a few clever Huxley's. Aldous was one of the less
    clever ones.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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