Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217 >Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in <ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got x-rays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
and the US Medical Industrial Complex cashed in on their un-tested medicine, hiding info about how dangerous those vaccines were.
I knew enough when in an UK test on the hospital staff 2 got sick from 10, and one died later from it.
Hopefully US president Biden dies and goes to hell (because of him supporting Israel's genocide),
because if he goes to heaven it will be all wars there.
Clearly his COVID shots did not improve his memory or ethics.
Yes gut biome is important.
Am careful, I do not eat humans, way too fat.
When WW3 starts we have to re-evaluate that.
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote i <ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell ><cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in ><ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217 >>Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell >><cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in >><ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217 >>>Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in <ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217
Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field...
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell >>><cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in >>><ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217 >>>>Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan >>
Just the geographic "coincidence" is overwhelming, the virus origin
being within walking distance of the lab. The timing is telling too.
Megadeaths are not something that someone wants to be remembered for.
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known viruses.
It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what made the
mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was identified.
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position >initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:48:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a
stupid idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the
virus was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
If they'd made it known that millions of people had died as a result
of a release of a Chinese bio-weapon, there would have been an
immediate clamor for a massive military response. Saying 'we don't
know' gives the West a bit of valuable breathing space to decide how
to deal with this emerging threat without triggering WW3. But I do
hope China will get it's come-uppance one fine day. They so fucking
deserve it.
On 8/03/2024 1:26 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell >>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote i <ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
<snip>
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID
(Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, who likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
On 07/03/2024 16:39, Martin Brown wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what
made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was
identified.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 8/03/2024 1:26 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell >>>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote i <ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
<snip>
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID
(Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaze_Media
It is designed to appeal to right-wing half-wits like Cursitor Doom, who
likes his conspiracy theories to be thoroughly absurd.
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at
keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
The wet market in Wuhan is a much more likely source - lots more
potentially infected bush meat, exposed to many more people.
The WHO carried out 50000 tests in China on wild animals, and never found anything related to COVID.
The WHV is alleged to have a second building further along the same street
as the one we know about. It doesn’t have any nameplates, and the entrance is at the back. No foreigners have been known to visit it.
On 07/03/2024 16:39, Martin Brown wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs.
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there were
no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was what
made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein was
identified.
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:22:18 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 11:42:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:47:50 +0000) it happened Colin Bignell >>>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote in
<ns6cnUVBU4EWB3T4nZ2dnZeNn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
On 07/03/2024 10:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gut health. *So* important!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/alteration-gut-microbiota-affects-severity-and-complications-covid-19
A study in The Lancet reported no adverse effects from a man getting 217 >>>>> Covid jabs in 29 months:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(24)00134-8/fulltext#sec1
--
Colin Bignell
I never had a COVID shot and have no adverse effects
Never had a cold in my life, seem to have anti-bodies against it and some other things too,
like TBC, tested positive with an arm scratch test in primary school, got xrays 2 or 3 times,
nothing found, Now I am almost 80 ...
Recently was reading that they found a link between COVID shots and long-term COVID.
Many have died from blood cloth from the COVID shots.
Many sporters got heart trouble, some died on the playing field.
Its the evil US its Biological Warfare Department designed COVID (Faulty or something was the bad guys name),
Fauci. That's his name. Remember it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-engineered-researchers-chinese-lab-wuhan
Just the geographic "coincidence" is overwhelming, the virus origin
being within walking distance of the lab. The timing is telling too.
Not to mention that blatant obstruction of the lab and the market by
the Chinese authorities when the WHO came to investigate.
It was a half-baked bio-weapon and we'd be fools not to take
appropriate steps now we know what the Chinese are up to.
Megadeaths are not something that someone wants to be remembered for.
On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 19:08:59 +0000pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:48:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a
stupid idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the
virus was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
If they'd made it known that millions of people had died as a result
of a release of a Chinese bio-weapon, there would have been an
immediate clamor for a massive military response. Saying 'we don't
know' gives the West a bit of valuable breathing space to decide how
to deal with this emerging threat without triggering WW3. But I do
hope China will get it's come-uppance one fine day. They so fucking
deserve it.
It wasn't just China...
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-despite-faucis-repeated-denials/
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_
On 3/7/24 18:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 16:39, Martin Brown wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:I think that in fact there *were* telltale signs
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid
idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
No. Mainstream is that we will probably never know but that there
were no telltale signs of it being spliced together from other known
viruses. It has been sequenced and examined very widely which was
what made the mRNA vaccines possible once an invariant target protein
was identified.
What's the point of making that assertion without anything
solid to back it up? Come on, spill the beans or shut up!
Jeroen Belleman
On 8/03/2024 4:48 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good
at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea,
but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of being
uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default position
initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new: information.
On 08/03/2024 07:09, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/03/2024 4:48 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:that site is the information dearie
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid
idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus
was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new"information.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
Don't bully me. Take it up with them.
On 8/03/2024 8:05 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu
On 08/03/2024 07:09, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/03/2024 4:48 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:that site is the information dearie
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:As far as I know, yes.
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty
good at keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid >>>>>>> idea, but Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus >>>>>> was cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
But you don't know much, and don't go to any trouble to find out
evidence that you'd prefer not to know about.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
is a fairly good overview. The problem is that accusing China of
being uber sloppy was not politically *convenient*. So the default
position initially was a 'we just dont know'
Apparently now, we know a lot more...
But you can't point to any of this "new"information.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak%EF%BF%BC/
Don't bully me. Take it up with them.
There's no information there. There are a few American senators who know
what they want to believe, but no facts at all.
Here is a fact or two that I posted earlier.
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_
That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor
in a mouse model.”
The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans, and
it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
On 08/03/2024 10:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/03/2024 8:05 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/03/2024 07:09, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/03/2024 4:48 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:15, GB wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
pOPgESFBYUgzj4cwPwtZk-heYt6_aG9uwn6DGb2nG0XNAx5OppmF3ArrFkja-d9TWqB8_U1lS1BLWYu >>There's no information there. There are a few American senators who
know what they want to believe, but no facts at all.
Here is a fact or two that I posted earlier.
https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACPGaZ5dUJFM3q5AfcrA5yai45fdGG3fYRStdwAE3MyFcIuuVbjhdODrC9uQ1A6LkPTUjWl_y8le4SgMvvACZ5x16IR1_
That wasn't "gain of function" research. The question examined was"More than three years have passed since the first case of a new
whether "“spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses
circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2
receptor in a mouse model.”
The naturally occurring bat coronaviruses weren't modified in any way.
The question was whether they were potentially dangerous to humans,
and it got the right answer, though nobody seems to have acted on the
information obtained - not that they could have done much.
coronavirus infection (SARS-CoV-2) in the city of Wuhan (Hubei, China).
The Wuhan Institute of Virology was founded in that city in 1956 and the country’s first biosafety level 4 laboratory opened within that center
in 2015. The coincidence that the first cases of infection emerged in
the city where the virology institute’s headquarters is located, the failure to 100% identify the virus’ RNA in any of the coronaviruses isolated in bats, and the lack of evidence on a possible intermediate
animal host in the contagion’s transmission make it so that at present, there are doubts about the real origin of SARS-CoV-2. This article will review two theories: SARS-CoV-2 as a virus of zoonotic origin or as a
leak from the high-level biosafety laboratory in Wuhan."
...
"Do these findings close the discussion on the origins of SARS-CoV-2?
No. As can be seen, there are two theories that could coexist or the
debate could be closed by choosing one or the other. Defining chains of infection and seeking the origin of them is a fundamental aspect of
public health. Therefore, on the one hand, it seems evident that the transmission originated in the Huanan market. But, on the other hand,
three fundamental questions remain that have not been definitively
answered. First, where did the virus come from? Second, what was the intermediate animal host? And third, why has the virus genome not been reproduced 100% in any of the coronaviruses found in bats?"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10019034/
In short whilst there is no *conclusive* evidence one way or another the balance of probability is that it was made in a lab but not as a
bioweapon. It was an accident.
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:15:10 +0000, GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid>
wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/03/2024 15:05, Bill Sloman wrote:
There's not a shred of evidence that Covid-19 was any kind of
laboratory-developed virus, and virus labs are actually pretty good at >>>> keeping dangerous viruses safely locked up. It's a stupid idea, but
Cursitor Doom and Jan Panteltje like it.
Actually its pretty much the main stream consensus that the virus was
cooked up in a lab, and escaped.
Is that the consensus amongst people who really know what they are
talking about?
The anti-lab theory is promoted by people who very much don't want the
lab origin to be the cause.
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