• crumpets

    From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 07:08:32 2024
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th
    and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in
    Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    My theory is that it's hard to toast crumpets properly in a 120 volt
    toaster, and the toasters are 220v in olde England, so they eat more
    crumpets.

    Their kettles work better too, so they drink more tea.

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Feb 22 15:35:59 2024
    John Larkin wrote:

    Their kettles work better too, so they drink more tea.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Feb 22 17:08:26 2024
    On 22/02/2024 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th
    and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in
    Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    Two nations separated by a common language.

    I take it we are talking about crumpets as round white 1/2" thick and
    ~3" diameter made out of a very holey dough full of big bubbles? Made on
    a hot griddle in a ring mould and then toastable whole from a packet.

    You can DIY them if you are so inclined. Recipe for major brand is here:

    https://www.recipetineats.com/crumpet-recipe/

    As opposed to toasting muffins which are basically more round flat bread
    bun like and sliced in two before toasting.

    My first American pancakes were a bit of a shock - I was expecting a
    couple of thin crepes but I got a huge stack of 8" diameter 1cm thick
    pan cakes. It did what it said on the tin (just not what I expected).

    My theory is that it's hard to toast crumpets properly in a 120 volt
    toaster, and the toasters are 220v in olde England, so they eat more crumpets.

    I doubt there is too much of a limitation on voltage. If it will toast
    bread then it should toast crumpets too (if they will fit in the
    toasting gap). The problem is that some (many?) bread toasters cannot
    accept the thicker crumpets without application of a steam roller or
    mallet to them which somewhat damages the shape and integrity!

    Their kettles work better too, so they drink more tea.

    Or coffee - since continental mains is 240v too.

    Japan has similarly feeble electricity and slow kettles that are
    essentially thermos flasks with a heating element inside it.

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  • From Arie de Muijnck@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 18:57:47 2024
    On 2024-02-22 18:08, Martin Brown wrote:> Or coffee - since continental mains is 240v too.

    No, 230V. It was a compromise between UK (240) and EU (220).
    We just kept it that way after the Brexit.

    Arie

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Thu Feb 22 11:15:01 2024
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 17:08:26 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 22/02/2024 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th
    and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in
    Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    Two nations separated by a common language.

    I take it we are talking about crumpets as round white 1/2" thick and
    ~3" diameter made out of a very holey dough full of big bubbles? Made on
    a hot griddle in a ring mould and then toastable whole from a packet.


    That's what we get here. They are very dense and moist and hard to
    toast.



    You can DIY them if you are so inclined. Recipe for major brand is here:

    https://www.recipetineats.com/crumpet-recipe/


    Baking is such a mess; I'd rather buy. I do make excellent biscuits,
    which isn't a lot of work. I don't know if brits make biscuits, which
    are different from scones.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bnuwq23drg8k0wgsezcbv/B3.jpg?rlkey=qgpjxrxdz7m3zekxf9999hov7&raw=1


    As opposed to toasting muffins which are basically more round flat bread
    bun like and sliced in two before toasting.

    My first American pancakes were a bit of a shock - I was expecting a
    couple of thin crepes but I got a huge stack of 8" diameter 1cm thick
    pan cakes. It did what it said on the tin (just not what I expected).

    Good with pecans or blueberries or banana slices.


    My theory is that it's hard to toast crumpets properly in a 120 volt
    toaster, and the toasters are 220v in olde England, so they eat more
    crumpets.

    I doubt there is too much of a limitation on voltage. If it will toast
    bread then it should toast crumpets too (if they will fit in the
    toasting gap). The problem is that some (many?) bread toasters cannot
    accept the thicker crumpets without application of a steam roller or
    mallet to them which somewhat damages the shape and integrity!

    Their kettles work better too, so they drink more tea.

    Or coffee - since continental mains is 240v too.

    Japan has similarly feeble electricity and slow kettles that are
    essentially thermos flasks with a heating element inside it.

    We boil water over a natural gas flame, which is probably a lot more
    heat than an electric outlet can supply. Our central burner, the
    biggest of five, is probably in the 5 KW equivalent sort of range.

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Feb 22 20:27:55 2024
    On 2/22/24 20:15, john larkin wrote:
    We boil water over a natural gas flame, which is probably a lot more
    heat than an electric outlet can supply. Our central burner, the
    biggest of five, is probably in the 5 KW equivalent sort of range.

    and most of of that ends up heating the room instead of the water

    people have tried, an 1800W induction cook top will boil a pot of water
    just as fast as a 5000W gas burner

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Thu Feb 22 21:16:01 2024
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 17:08:26 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 22/02/2024 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th
    and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in
    Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    Two nations separated by a common language.

    I take it we are talking about crumpets as round white 1/2" thick and
    ~3" diameter made out of a very holey dough full of big bubbles? Made on
    a hot griddle in a ring mould and then toastable whole from a packet.

    You can DIY them if you are so inclined. Recipe for major brand is here:

    https://www.recipetineats.com/crumpet-recipe/

    As opposed to toasting muffins which are basically more round flat bread
    bun like and sliced in two before toasting.

    My first American pancakes were a bit of a shock - I was expecting a
    couple of thin crepes but I got a huge stack of 8" diameter 1cm thick
    pan cakes. It did what it said on the tin (just not what I expected).

    My theory is that it's hard to toast crumpets properly in a 120 volt
    toaster, and the toasters are 220v in olde England, so they eat more
    crumpets.

    I doubt there is too much of a limitation on voltage. If it will toast
    bread then it should toast crumpets too (if they will fit in the
    toasting gap). The problem is that some (many?) bread toasters cannot
    accept the thicker crumpets without application of a steam roller or
    mallet to them which somewhat damages the shape and integrity!

    Their kettles work better too, so they drink more tea.

    Or coffee - since continental mains is 240v too.

    Nope. Europe is 230V, UK is 240V.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 22 13:34:06 2024
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:27:55 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 2/22/24 20:15, john larkin wrote:
    We boil water over a natural gas flame, which is probably a lot more
    heat than an electric outlet can supply. Our central burner, the
    biggest of five, is probably in the 5 KW equivalent sort of range.

    and most of of that ends up heating the room instead of the water

    That's fine; we leave the house heat on all the time.


    people have tried, an 1800W induction cook top will boil a pot of water
    just as fast as a 5000W gas burner

    I guess that needs optimized cookware. And the gas works if the
    electricity goes out, like after an earthquake.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Feb 23 09:59:28 2024
    On 22/02/2024 19:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 17:08:26 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 22/02/2024 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th
    and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in
    Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    Two nations separated by a common language.

    I take it we are talking about crumpets as round white 1/2" thick and
    ~3" diameter made out of a very holey dough full of big bubbles? Made on
    a hot griddle in a ring mould and then toastable whole from a packet.


    That's what we get here. They are very dense and moist and hard to
    toast.

    OK So the same thing as I think of as a crumpet (which was breakfast
    today). The main problem with them is that about half the toasters made
    even in the UK do not have an aperture wide enough to accept them.

    Newer cool wall toasters are even worse in that respect occupying a huge
    volume of space and dry the bread into submission rather than toast it!

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    Martin Brown

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Fri Feb 23 07:22:47 2024
    On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:59:28 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 22/02/2024 19:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 17:08:26 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 22/02/2024 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
    It's hard to find crumpets around here. The little fruit stand at 30th >>>> and Church (where Sister Act was filmed) sometimes has them. Ikedas in >>>> Auburn usually does, but that's a 2-hour drive from SF.

    Two nations separated by a common language.

    I take it we are talking about crumpets as round white 1/2" thick and
    ~3" diameter made out of a very holey dough full of big bubbles? Made on >>> a hot griddle in a ring mould and then toastable whole from a packet.


    That's what we get here. They are very dense and moist and hard to
    toast.

    OK So the same thing as I think of as a crumpet (which was breakfast
    today). The main problem with them is that about half the toasters made
    even in the UK do not have an aperture wide enough to accept them.

    Newer cool wall toasters are even worse in that respect occupying a huge >volume of space and dry the bread into submission rather than toast it!

    This is wonderful, and looks great too.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A6Z6U30

    I've given away about a dozen so far. All my emplyees have one if they
    wanted one. It has plenty of room for a crumpet or a waffle or a thick
    slab of sourdough. I don't know if there is a 240v version.

    "5" is almost enough for a crumpet.

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