Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in ><64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened
Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:29:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in >><64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
Quite possibly. The only thing British about those missiles is the
warheads. All the guidance and propulsion systems are from America
IIRC.
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is >unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
On 22/02/2024 10:07, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened
Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is
unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
Luckily, it didn't hit our aircraft carrier.
On 22/02/2024 10:26, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 22/02/2024 10:07, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened
Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is
unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
Luckily, it didn't hit our aircraft carrier.
You mean the ornamental target ones with almost no aircraft on?
It looks quite impressive at sea and has an odd profile.
https://www.ft.com/content/4f0ed77f-d68d-4aa1-8322-fa87184feae3
State of the art can also mean edge of unreliability. ISTR our Type 45 >destroyers engines sound like a bag of spanners and will overheat if
used in the tropics (apart from that "minor defect" they are excellent).
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/britain-royal-navy-warships/index.html
Being plunged into total darkness because the designers never imagined
that they would deploy to warm tropical seas. You couldn't make it up!
On 22/02/2024 10:26, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 22/02/2024 10:07, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened
Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is
unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
Luckily, it didn't hit our aircraft carrier.
You mean the ornamental target ones with almost no aircraft on?
It looks quite impressive at sea and has an odd profile.
https://www.ft.com/content/4f0ed77f-d68d-4aa1-8322-fa87184feae3
State of the art can also mean edge of unreliability. ISTR our Type 45 >destroyers engines sound like a bag of spanners and will overheat if
used in the tropics (apart from that "minor defect" they are excellent).
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/britain-royal-navy-warships/index.html
Being plunged into total darkness because the designers never imagined
that they would deploy to warm tropical seas. You couldn't make it up!
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in ><64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
...How
many Arc Royals have there been?
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
On 22/02/2024 07:29, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened
Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
We likely got the end of line Walmart rejects for our "independent"
nuclear deterrent. To lose one Trident missile on a test launch is unfortunate but to lose two in a row looks like carelessness.
I wonder what proportion of them will actually work as designed...
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
...How
many Arc Royals have there been?
None that I know of.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:47:41 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
...How
many Arc Royals have there been?
None that I know of.
Alright smart arse. *Ark Royal*s then. A typo. Big fucking deal. I
really thought better of you. What a fool I was.
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
Hah, yes it would be fitting punishment for the world's "leaders" if
after going and pushing all the buttons they find out they've been
sitting on a bunch of duds all this time.
Then they'd only have _us_ to worry about while sitting in their >bunkers.."Hey remember that time you tried to destroy the world? We'd
like to talk to you about that..."
Hope they got a lot of supplies stored because it sounds like a classic
The Cask of Amontillado situation for them at that point.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:29:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in >><64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
Does anyone know why the Royal Navy keeps re-cycling the *same old
names* for their vessels over and over and over and over again? How
many Arc Royals have there been? How many HMS Vengeances?? The list
just goes on and on and on and on. How about some more modern names
like - I don't know - HMS Lee Mack or HMS Elton John?
On a sunny day (Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:21:22 -0500) it happened bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in <SFQBN.55536$Wbff.7572@fx37.iad>:
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
Hah, yes it would be fitting punishment for the world's "leaders" if
after going and pushing all the buttons they find out they've been
sitting on a bunch of duds all this time.
Then they'd only have _us_ to worry about while sitting in their
bunkers.."Hey remember that time you tried to destroy the world? We'd
like to talk to you about that..."
Hope they got a lot of supplies stored because it sounds like a classic
The Cask of Amontillado situation for them at that point.
Well I had to look that up:-)
On 23/02/2024 10:45 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:47:41 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
...How
many Arc Royals have there been?
None that I know of.
Alright smart arse. *Ark Royal*s then. A typo. Big fucking deal. I
really thought better of you. What a fool I was.
Cursitor Doom has always been a fool. It's hard to get him to recognise
this indisputable fact. His persistent passion for the most improbable >conspiracy theories suggests that there may be some underlying >psychopathology, but while that may partially explain the foolishness,
he's still addicted to fatuous nonsense.
On 2/23/2024 1:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:21:22 -0500) it happened bitrex
<user@example.net> wrote in <SFQBN.55536$Wbff.7572@fx37.iad>:
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Hard to believe this is accidental after two consecutive tests.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68355395
US nukes likely do not work either :-)
Hah, yes it would be fitting punishment for the world's "leaders" if
after going and pushing all the buttons they find out they've been
sitting on a bunch of duds all this time.
Then they'd only have _us_ to worry about while sitting in their
bunkers.."Hey remember that time you tried to destroy the world? We'd
like to talk to you about that..."
Hope they got a lot of supplies stored because it sounds like a classic
The Cask of Amontillado situation for them at that point.
Well I had to look that up:-)
Yeah, they had us reading that charming stuff in 7th-8th grade in the US >(12-13 y/o) 30 years ago. but meanwhile we've got citizens walking
around in 2024 saying a story with gays in it is going to cause too much >psychological harm to children.
But hey sure just give us a story about a guy murdering a guy by walling
him up in a dungeon and call it "classic literature" yeah that's fine
for kids to read. that's cool.
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:53:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 2/23/2024 1:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:21:22 -0500) it happened bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in <SFQBN.55536$Wbff.7572@fx37.iad>:
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
Well, you should have been instructed to read *English* literature
rather than some silly American nonsense. It was Thomas Hardy when I
was at school (rather a long time ago).
On 25/02/2024 9:16 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:53:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 2/23/2024 1:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:21:22 -0500) it happened bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in <SFQBN.55536$Wbff.7572@fx37.iad>:
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
<snip>
Well, you should have been instructed to read *English* literature
rather than some silly American nonsense. It was Thomas Hardy when I
was at school (rather a long time ago).
Trollope is rather better on moral questions. Thomas Love Peacock is
more fun. Hardy wasn't much more interesting than Barbara Cartland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Cartland
Jane Austen is infinitely better than either of them. John Larkin likes
her, but that's not her fault.
At secondary school I got stuck with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery_Under_Arms
which was pure Australian nationalism, or silly Australian nonsense if
you prefer. Edgar Allan Poe was American, and the impulse to get
Americans to read his novels is unedifying American nationalism of a
similar sort.
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:33:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 23/02/2024 10:45 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:47:41 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
...How
many Arc Royals have there been?
None that I know of.
Alright smart arse. *Ark Royal*s then. A typo. Big fucking deal. I
really thought better of you. What a fool I was.
Cursitor Doom has always been a fool. It's hard to get him to recognise
this indisputable fact. His persistent passion for the most improbable
conspiracy theories suggests that there may be some underlying
psychopathology, but while that may partially explain the foolishness,
he's still addicted to fatuous nonsense.
Bill Sloman: Usenet's Voice of Reason.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 00:46:03 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 25/02/2024 9:16 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:53:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 2/23/2024 1:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:21:22 -0500) it happened bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in <SFQBN.55536$Wbff.7572@fx37.iad>:
On 2/22/2024 2:29 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:35:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <64e05753-9950-4c18-b51f-b5f00e94b67bn@googlegroups.com>:
<snip>
Well, you should have been instructed to read *English* literature
rather than some silly American nonsense. It was Thomas Hardy when I
was at school (rather a long time ago).
Trollope is rather better on moral questions. Thomas Love Peacock is
more fun. Hardy wasn't much more interesting than Barbara Cartland.
You astonish me, Bill! Have you actually read any Trollope? His
writing's dripping with anti-Semitism. I'd have thought as a Jewish
man you would have found him repulsive. As far as Barbara Cartland is concerned, there is simply no comparison with Hardy; not remotely.
Have you actually *read* any fiction at all??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Cartland
Jane Austen is infinitely better than either of them. John Larkin likes
her, but that's not her fault.
At secondary school I got stuck with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery_Under_Arms
which was pure Australian nationalism, or silly Australian nonsense if
you prefer. Edgar Allan Poe was American, and the impulse to get
Americans to read his novels is unedifying American nationalism of a
similar sort.
Sounds awful.
I'd have thought if they must inflict Australian
"literature" on school children they'd have been better of with Nevil
Shute. He was still garbage, but at least more suitable for kids. Or
should I say, a bit less unsuitable.
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