My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate
some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
My preference is a cheap temperature-controlled soldering station. But
there are still very many to choose from at astonishingly low prices.
Best match I've seen so far is what this person explained (though the
videos are lengthy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIab66EgfHM (936)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUjhFUm8OM (936D, i.e. digital)
He spoke about things such as temperature control, temperature
calibration, tip grounding and inexpensive replaceable low-voltage irons
with standard fittings. But the reviews are a bit old now and I see
Yihua model numbers up to 939 - later, improved models?
Fast heat up, power efficiency and auto off would be nice to have to
keep running costs down.
In article <ur2juu$2isdf$1@dont-email.me>, james.harris.1@gmail.com
says...
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate
some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
My preference is a cheap temperature-controlled soldering station. But
there are still very many to choose from at astonishingly low prices.
Best match I've seen so far is what this person explained (though the
videos are lengthy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIab66EgfHM (936)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUjhFUm8OM (936D, i.e. digital)
He spoke about things such as temperature control, temperature
calibration, tip grounding and inexpensive replaceable low-voltage irons
with standard fittings. But the reviews are a bit old now and I see
Yihua model numbers up to 939 - later, improved models?
Fast heat up, power efficiency and auto off would be nice to have to
keep running costs down.
If you are only going to use it on PC boards and maybe once every 2
weeks or less I would spend a little more and get a hot air rework
station. They are on Amazon for about 60 pounds ( think that is what
that funny looking L is) . About twice the price of just the soldering
iron but you all so get a hot air gun that can be used on the SMD and
to install the heat shrink tubing. I have had one for about 10 years.
I do have a soldering gun for higher heat if I need it. The soldering
irons do heat up very fast compaired to the Weller irons I have used.
The Metcal units are fabulous. You can find used ones on ebay, and
there are 2nd source tips now. The tips last forever.
Metcal+Mantis really works.
tirsdag den 20. februar 2024 kl. 19.20.09 UTC+1 skrev Theo:
In uk.d-i-y John Larkin <j...@997pothill.com> wrote:
The Metcal units are fabulous. You can find used ones on ebay, and+1. They use RF heating rather than a heating element. Probably beyond the >> OP's budget but second hand might work. I've also seen projects to make a
there are 2nd source tips now. The tips last forever.
Metcal+Mantis really works.
DIY solder station (RF generator) to use the official handpiece and tips.
Bit surprised there aren't any knockoff Chinese clone RF soldering irons by >> now. I see Hakko has the FX-100 series but I had a brief look around and
didn't see any no-brand RF irons.
I'm not sure the hassle of inductive heating is worth the effort vs. the modern soldering
irons where the tip and heater are a single integrated part
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate
some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:28:14 +0000) it happened James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote in <ur2juu$2isdf$1@dont-email.me>:
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate
some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
I have been using this now for 20 years or more:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/soldering_iron_LCD_display_IMG_5456.JPG
probably no longer available, 3 adjustable temperature presets.
Never failed, tips last many years too, just 2 new tips in all those days. Used a lot, last time was 2 days ago.
onsdag den 21. februar 2024 kl. 00.52.52 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:19:29 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
tirsdag den 20. februar 2024 kl. 19.20.09 UTC+1 skrev Theo:The Metcals aren't inductive.
In uk.d-i-y John Larkin <j...@997pothill.com> wrote:
The Metcal units are fabulous. You can find used ones on ebay, and+1. They use RF heating rather than a heating element. Probably beyond the
there are 2nd source tips now. The tips last forever.
Metcal+Mantis really works.
OP's budget but second hand might work. I've also seen projects to make a >> >> DIY solder station (RF generator) to use the official handpiece and tips. >> >>
Bit surprised there aren't any knockoff Chinese clone RF soldering irons by
now. I see Hakko has the FX-100 series but I had a brief look around and >> >> didn't see any no-brand RF irons.
I'm not sure the hassle of inductive heating is worth the effort vs. the modern soldering
irons where the tip and heater are a single integrated part
Metcal would be very surprised to hear that
They somehow use a ceramic heater
element that keeps to its Curie temperature.
it is a coil with RF would around the tip, the eddy current in the tip heats it
just like an induction cook top. On the fixed temperature irons the curie temperature
of the tip material regulates the temperature, on the variable temperature irons they have
a temperature sensor an regulate the heating power, just like an iron with resistive heating
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate
some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
My preference is a cheap temperature-controlled soldering station. But
there are still very many to choose from at astonishingly low prices.
Best match I've seen so far is what this person explained (though the
videos are lengthy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIab66EgfHM (936)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUjhFUm8OM (936D, i.e. digital)
He spoke about things such as temperature control, temperature
calibration, tip grounding and inexpensive replaceable low-voltage irons
with standard fittings. But the reviews are a bit old now and I see
Yihua model numbers up to 939 - later, improved models?
Fast heat up, power efficiency and auto off would be nice to have to
keep running costs down.
On modern 936Ds the digital displays seem to have been replaced by a
dial - which would be OK if the temperature were easy to set accurately
and calibrate, and still well regulated.
For example, here's one on Ebay for £23: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256365970892.
But those are just examples. The basic query is: What would be a
low-price but reasonably good soldering station to go for?
As I say, recommendations would be most welcome!
Until you really need a high-end soldering station, this $12.98
kit on Amazon will work fine for you: https://www.amazon.com/Liouhoum-Auto-Sleep-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostatic/dp/B08PZBPXLZ
LCD, adjustable temp, fast heat up etc.
On 21/02/2024 19:59, ehsjr wrote:
Until you really need a high-end soldering station, this $12.98
kit on Amazon will work fine for you:
https://www.amazon.com/Liouhoum-Auto-Sleep-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostatic/dp/B08PZBPXLZ
LCD, adjustable temp, fast heat up etc.
No good in the UK - it's 110v, UK is 240v.
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:28:14 +0000) it happened James HarrisLooks like the original sponge, too. ;)
<james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote in <ur2juu$2isdf$1@dont-email.me>:
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it
turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate >>> some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
I have been using this now for 20 years or more:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/soldering_iron_LCD_display_IMG_5456.JPG
probably no longer available, 3 adjustable temperature presets.
Never failed, tips last many years too, just 2 new tips in all those days. >> Used a lot, last time was 2 days ago.
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:40:14 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in <ur4uft$35sh6$1@dont-email.me>:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:28:14 +0000) it happened James Harris >>> <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote in <ur2juu$2isdf$1@dont-email.me>:Looks like the original sponge, too. ;)
My gas soldering iron has sprung a leak and I need to replace it but it >>>> turns out that the range of choices these days is huge so I'd appreciate >>>> some recommendations - either on specific products or on what to look
out for.
Usage would be occasional, mainly on PCBs and Veroboards.
I have been using this now for 20 years or more:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/soldering_iron_LCD_display_IMG_5456.JPG
probably no longer available, 3 adjustable temperature presets.
Never failed, tips last many years too, just 2 new tips in all those days. >>> Used a lot, last time was 2 days ago.
It is, I NEVER use a wet sponge or any water on the tips,
just rub any stuff off with a piece of napkin.
That is why I can still use the same tips over and over again.
But an other secret (do no tell anyone)
I use atomic number 82 together with tin as solder.
BTW stop spamming and panteltje.com has not existed for some time now
One more an you are in the company of others in my filter never to be seen again.
nothing lost asshole.
Your contributions are next to zero here anyways.
Am curious at this. Why would such an electric iron be an upgrade from a
gas one? Until it sprang a leak by gas iron was very convenient and
heated up quickly.
On 22/02/2024 03:53, ehsjr wrote:
On 2/21/2024 5:11 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
On 21/02/2024 19:59, ehsjr wrote:
Until you really need a high-end soldering station, this $12.98
kit on Amazon will work fine for you:
https://www.amazon.com/Liouhoum-Auto-Sleep-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostatic/dp/B08PZBPXLZ
LCD, adjustable temp, fast heat up etc.
No good in the UK - it's 110v, UK is 240v.
Good observation. But consider the last line of my
post which said:
"There are others similar to that one, too, that
should be ok."
Yes, recommendations from elsewhere were fine. I can translate!
The point is that for only occasional use as the OP
described, there's no need for anything top of the
line or high end. Get a cheap one that will do the
job and use it until you need something a lot better.
It'll be a big upgrade from a gas soldering iron he's
been using.
Am curious at this. Why would such an electric iron be an upgrade from a
gas one? Until it sprang a leak by gas iron was very convenient and
heated up quickly.
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:40:14 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobbs<snip>
<snip>Looks like the original sponge, too. ;)
BTW stop spamming and panteltje.com has not existed for some time now
One more an you are in the company of others in my filter never to be seen again.
nothing lost asshole.
Your contributions are next to zero here anyways.
On 2/22/2024 2:53 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:40:14 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobbs<snip>
<snip>Looks like the original sponge, too. ;)
BTW stop spamming and panteltje.com has not existed for some time now
One more an you are in the company of others in my filter never to be seen again.
nothing lost asshole.
Your contributions are next to zero here anyways.
Nothing could be farther from the truth, Phil's
contributions are of the highest value. I suspect
Jan's post is is a fraud, done by a hacker.
Ed
On 2/22/2024 2:53 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:40:14 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Phil Hobbs<snip>
<snip>Looks like the original sponge, too. ;)
BTW stop spamming and panteltje.com has not existed for some time now
One more an you are in the company of others in my filter never to be seen again.
nothing lost asshole.
Your contributions are next to zero here anyways.
Nothing could be farther from the truth, Phil's
contributions are of the highest value. I suspect
Jan's post is is a fraud, done by a hacker.
Ed
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