tirsdag den 13. februar 2024 kl. 01.05.53 UTC+1 skrev Fred Bloggs:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
nah, google gives up on usenet because it doesn't make them any money
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
Who gets to have the last word on Google SED? Larkin or Slowman?
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely
--
Regards,
Carl
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:oriented towards binaries but text groups work ok.
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour. That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely
--
Regards,
Carl
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
On 2/22/24 3:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the
reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than
thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.
Carl <carl.ijamesXX@YYverizon.net> wrote:
On 2/22/24 3:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the >>>>>> reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than >>>> thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh ?. Sorry.
Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers
Carl <carl.ijamesXX@YYverizon.net> wrote:
On 2/22/24 3:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the >>>>>> reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use
their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than >>>> thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal
button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I
should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.
Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers
On 2/22/24 10:50 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Carl <carl.ijamesXX@YYverizon.net> wrote:Astraweb looks good, and is about 40% cheaper than newshosting ($8 vs $13/month). However, using newshosting's free newsreader you can do searches of their entire archive. I don't see any way to do that with astraweb with thunderbird. With thunderbird you have to download all
On 2/22/24 3:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>>>>> They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the >>>>>>> reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use >>>>> their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than >>>>> thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal >>>> button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I >>> should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.
Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers
the headers as far back as you want to search, and then search, and it
slows to a crawl handling more than say 20,000 headers at a time. Then
you have to give up a lot of disk space to keep those headers around, or spend many minutes deleting them just so you can download them the next
time you want to do a search 🙂. I used to use newsguy which was very good and cheap, but they went under several years ago. At that time newshosting was the best I could find, but if I'd seen astraweb it would
have been a hard choice. Yeah, I know I could use google groups to do searches but my google-fu is very weak there and I never seem to get
anything useful.
I've been using Supernews for ages, but they seem flakey lately. They
seem to be down on weekends and I see a lot of followups to posts that
I never see, including my own.
I guess I'll try eternal-september.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:26:48 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
wrote:
I've been using Supernews for ages, but they seem flakey lately. They
seem to be down on weekends and I see a lot of followups to posts that
I never see, including my own.
I guess I'll try eternal-september.
I've been having similar problems with Supernews. I've been using
Supernews almost since they were founded about 30 years ago. My
requirements are minimal (about 12 newsgroups) and no binary groups.
Service has been generally good and reliable until about 3 months ago,
when things began to deteriorate.
In the past, SED was collecting large amount of spam that I had to
remove manually. Other groups with less traffic had less spam. A
dialog with tech support was mostly useless boiler plate and promise
to fix things I never mentioned. I gave up and eventually the spam
problem was reduced, but not eliminated.
A few days ago, I noticed that there were a growing number of missing messages with followups. The missing messages were consistently on
Google Groups, but not on the Supernews servers. Several of my own
postings failed to appear on Supernews, but did appear on Google
Groups. I sent another support request, which resulted in another
boiler plate reply which mentioned that they are working on the spam
problem, which was not was not my complaint. I suspect someone had
looked up my previous support messages and intentionally ignored my complaint.
Joerg posted a recommendation to try individual.net. 10 euros per
year and they accept Paypal payment. I tested it for a day. About
200 formerly missing messages magically arrived. My conclusion is
that the missing messages problem is likely within the Supernews
system. With only 1 weeks of experience with individual.net, I don't
think I'm qualified for offering a recommendation quite yet. As long
as Google maintains the Google Groups archives, which go back to about
1984, the >1000 day retention at individual.net is more than adequate: <https://news.individual.net/hierarchies.php>
Checking traceroute to news.individual.net from California: <https://traceroute-online.com>
my traffic goes from the US west coast to:
New York -> Sweden -> Netherlands -> Germany
About 160 msec latency.
On 2/22/24 10:50 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Carl <carl.ijamesXX@YYverizon.net> wrote:Astraweb looks good, and is about 40% cheaper than newshosting ($8 vs $13/month).
On 2/22/24 3:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2024/02/21 10:48 a.m., Carl Ijames wrote:
On Wed Feb 21 01:46:28 2024 Klaus Kragelund wrote:
On Tuesday 13 February 2024 at 01:05:53 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>>>>> They're already winding down, limiting posts to about 5/ hour.
That's one way to reduce spam. People who won't miss google are the >>>>>>> reason google has decided usenet is not worth pursuing.
What would be a good server to use going ahead?
All the free providers seem gone, but I'm reasonably happy with
www.newshosting.com Works fine with thunderbird, but you have to use >>>>> their free newsreading program if you want more search capability than >>>>> thunderbird provides. Searches are definitely oriented towards
binaries but text groups work ok.
--
Regards,
Carl
https://www.eternal-september.org is free - he has a guilt-ware paypal >>>> button that I've used mind you...
John :-#)#
[May be a repeat, didn't see it come through yesterday.]
I get can't find site for aioe, but eternal-september is still there. I >>> should have said that I wanted binary access and that's not been free
for a long time, sigh 🙂. Sorry.
Astraweb is pretty nearly free, and has binaries.
Cheers
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